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Burst capillaries prove Epstein murder...? (Original Post) pbmus Jan 2020 OP
Need to hear from expert pathologists. triron Jan 2020 #1
We did. The New York Medical Examiner determined it was suicide. yardwork Jan 2020 #8
This message was self-deleted by its author Mosby Jan 2020 #2
The Daily Mirror is a tabloid. TwilightZone Jan 2020 #3
No. Common to death by asphyxiation. NutmegYankee Jan 2020 #4
I doubt that Dr. Oz had a chance to do an autopsy, somehow. MineralMan Jan 2020 #5
He also talks about Epstein's legs being too pale jmowreader Jan 2020 #6
People seem to associate hanging with full suspension. NutmegYankee Jan 2020 #9
Kick and rec big time for the gatekeepers. Kingofalldems Jan 2020 #7

Response to pbmus (Original post)

TwilightZone

(25,471 posts)
3. The Daily Mirror is a tabloid.
Thu Jan 16, 2020, 02:52 PM
Jan 2020

I probably wouldn't take anything they publish seriously.

And Dr. Oz is a quack. He basically admitted it in a Senate hearing.

MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
5. I doubt that Dr. Oz had a chance to do an autopsy, somehow.
Thu Jan 16, 2020, 02:55 PM
Jan 2020

Why would anyone listen to him in the first place? He's not a forensic pathologist. He's a promoter of bogus remedies, really.

jmowreader

(50,559 posts)
6. He also talks about Epstein's legs being too pale
Thu Jan 16, 2020, 04:19 PM
Jan 2020

Apparently, when someone gets hanged the blood goes to their legs and turns them dark. Epstein’s legs were pale.

When the guards found Epstein, he was in a kneeling position with a bedsheet tied between the top bunk and his neck. Hence, I am not of the mind that pale legs are absolutely indicative of murder.

Now understand: I do believe Epstein was whacked, and I also believe Our Great President had something to do with it. But I don’t believe these “proofs” prove one way or the other whether he was murdered, suicided or committed suicide without any suggestions from other people.

NutmegYankee

(16,199 posts)
9. People seem to associate hanging with full suspension.
Thu Jan 16, 2020, 08:25 PM
Jan 2020

Most suicidal deaths from hanging involve partial suspension with the decedent kneeling or feet on floor but legs bent to apply the pressure. If the pressure is applied in the right spot loss of consciousness can occur within seconds from lack of blood flow to the brain. This is what causes many accidental hangings and is why breathless erotic play and “hanging games” are so dangerous.

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