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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(108,016 posts)
Thu Jan 16, 2020, 05:53 PM Jan 2020

American Restaurants Brace for Potentially Devastating Wine Tariffs

Though the politics have nothing to do with dining, the U.S. government’s ongoing battle with the European Union over aircraft-industry subsidies has the restaurant industry on edge. The Trump administration’s October introduction of a 25 percent tariff on French, Spanish and German wines, and its recent proposal to increase the tariffs to 100 percent and apply them to all European wines, are particularly threatening to restaurants, which often rely on carefully priced beverage programs as a crucial revenue stream.

“The idea of not being able to sell the product that we opened the business to sell, and the quality of the product we want to sell and the way we want to sell it and present it to people, is really scary,” said Justin Chearno, partner and wine director of the Four Horsemen wine bar and restaurant in Brooklyn, N.Y.

According to the wine directors interviewed for this story, the 25 percent tariff hasn’t triggered major price increases yet, as many importers and distributors opted to absorb the bulk of the tax during the holiday season or sell through existing inventory while awaiting a resolution. But with no reprieve in sight, most importers have told clients to expect prices to start rising this month.

Though slight annual price increases are a natural part of the business, this tax “was enough to send the entirety of the market into a sense of unknown,” said wine director Ryan Bailey of NoMad Los Angeles. The possibility of even higher tariffs has increased the uncertainty.

https://restaurants.winespectator.com/article/58743/american-restaurants-brace-for-potentially-devastating-wine-tariffs?utm_campaign=PG2D011620&utm_source=Private-Guide-to-Dining-Consumer-01-16-20&utm_medium=email&utm_content=06136da64d94599140b32229e92119a4

Put up all the tariffs you want Trump. People still aren't going to buy your shitty wine.

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American Restaurants Brace for Potentially Devastating Wine Tariffs (Original Post) Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jan 2020 OP
It is going to destroy small businesses. maxsolomon Jan 2020 #1
Alcohol is a big profit source for a restaurant. That's why they try to make you thirsty and NCLefty Jan 2020 #13
Meh, people will switch to the more affordable beverage. maxsolomon Jan 2020 #16
Perhaps the rich will start ordering American wine with their expensive meals. braddy Jan 2020 #2
This kind of protectionism is stupid. hunter Jan 2020 #10
Interesting theory on how to sell a product, maybe business will discover it. braddy Jan 2020 #11
Let's remember, too, that in Europe, Totally Tunsie Jan 2020 #12
I'm not rich, not by a long shot. a la izquierda Jan 2020 #14
Welcome Back to DU RandiFan1290 Jan 2020 #15
Welcome back? braddy Jan 2020 #19
They do. So do the Upper Middle Class. maxsolomon Jan 2020 #17
How many restaurants? Somewhere in the thousands, maybe the rich will start buying American wine. braddy Jan 2020 #18
THEY DO. maxsolomon Jan 2020 #22
I only meant the rich who don't, the ones the OP article restaurateurs are concerned about. braddy Jan 2020 #24
Perhaps we'll simply make things up to validate a narrative. LanternWaste Jan 2020 #20
Doesnt someone at the chamber of commerce own wineries? backtoblue Jan 2020 #3
The Trump family has a winery. This will (potentially) increase their business. Tanuki Jan 2020 #4
What's wrong with American wines? Retrograde Jan 2020 #5
Nothing is wrong with American wines. What's wrong is Trump throwing a temper tantrum and Coventina Jan 2020 #7
Prices vary within the US unc70 Jan 2020 #8
I've read that US wine can carry SharonClark Jan 2020 #9
No one is asserting that there is. maxsolomon Jan 2020 #21
Russia says thanks Agent Donnie! nt coti Jan 2020 #6
Then I will continue to order American wines. MineralMan Jan 2020 #23

maxsolomon

(33,345 posts)
1. It is going to destroy small businesses.
Thu Jan 16, 2020, 05:58 PM
Jan 2020

Like the wine shop I patronize.

What were $10 bottles of delicious French Vin Ordinaire will now be $20? I can't afford that and will switch to West Coast or South American wine.

Trump is sticking it to both our European allies AND liberals.

NCLefty

(3,678 posts)
13. Alcohol is a big profit source for a restaurant. That's why they try to make you thirsty and
Fri Jan 17, 2020, 06:22 AM
Jan 2020

frequently ask if you want another drink (if they have good/happy staff). :p

the most profitable restaurant in America in 2011, Tao Las Vegas, makes 75 percent of its income from alcohol sales.

https://smallbusiness.chron.com/revenue-comes-selling-alcohol-34021.html


I think we could definitely drive some restaurants that are on the edge out of business with an alcohol tariff.

maxsolomon

(33,345 posts)
16. Meh, people will switch to the more affordable beverage.
Fri Jan 17, 2020, 01:10 PM
Jan 2020

The glass of French Burgundy that was $15 is now $30? I'll take the $12 Argentinian Malbec. Or a Craft Beer. Or a cocktail made with Bourbon. No tariffs on those.

How do restaurants "try to make you thirsty"? Refusing to give you a glass of water?

hunter

(38,317 posts)
10. This kind of protectionism is stupid.
Thu Jan 16, 2020, 11:07 PM
Jan 2020

Good American wines don't need any kind of protection. They compete on their own merits.

There are probably people who enjoy these European wines with a fancy restaurant meal who are thinking, "Gee, this is a good wine, and it was fun to try it, but the U.S.A. wine I have at home is as good as or better than that."

Which makes them more likely to buy U.S.A. wine.

Totally Tunsie

(10,885 posts)
12. Let's remember, too, that in Europe,
Fri Jan 17, 2020, 03:32 AM
Jan 2020

the American wines are the imports.

LOL - Do wine snobs who drink only imported wines have to switch gears when they travel in Europe? That'd be one way for them to try American.

a la izquierda

(11,795 posts)
14. I'm not rich, not by a long shot.
Fri Jan 17, 2020, 06:51 AM
Jan 2020

But I don’t like wine from the US. I’ll drink it if I have to, but I don’t order it when I’m out.
Thankfully I’ll be moving to Europe at the end of the year. 🙄

maxsolomon

(33,345 posts)
17. They do. So do the Upper Middle Class.
Fri Jan 17, 2020, 01:14 PM
Jan 2020

So do the Middle Class.

How many restaurants have you actually been to?

 

braddy

(3,585 posts)
18. How many restaurants? Somewhere in the thousands, maybe the rich will start buying American wine.
Fri Jan 17, 2020, 01:17 PM
Jan 2020
 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
20. Perhaps we'll simply make things up to validate a narrative.
Fri Jan 17, 2020, 01:19 PM
Jan 2020

And yeah... welcome back, Part II.

Retrograde

(10,137 posts)
5. What's wrong with American wines?
Thu Jan 16, 2020, 06:25 PM
Jan 2020

And I'm including South American wines with that. And Washington and Oregon wines, as well as other states? (I've had some decent Missouri wines; New York hasn't quite gotten a decent wine grape that does well in its climate, but IIRC Cornell is working on it) Or Australian, New Zealand, or South African wines?

I've long been able to buy a good bottle of California wine for what I'd pay for a mediocre French one; maybe it's time for the East Coast big city elites to consider buying American here as well. (how do I do half a smiley?)

Coventina

(27,121 posts)
7. Nothing is wrong with American wines. What's wrong is Trump throwing a temper tantrum and
Thu Jan 16, 2020, 06:31 PM
Jan 2020

destroying the relationship we have with our European allies.

It's disappointing that you apparently cannot see that.

unc70

(6,115 posts)
8. Prices vary within the US
Thu Jan 16, 2020, 07:29 PM
Jan 2020

I'm on the east coast and not so "elite", but find better modest-priced wines from France and Italy than from California. There is also over-priced wine from everywhere.

Half smiley noted.

SharonClark

(10,014 posts)
9. I've read that US wine can carry
Thu Jan 16, 2020, 10:11 PM
Jan 2020

Pesticide residue where European wine is less likely to. It was stated in a wine blog and I don’t know if it’s true.

maxsolomon

(33,345 posts)
21. No one is asserting that there is.
Fri Jan 17, 2020, 01:21 PM
Jan 2020

The issue is the capricious, punitive Tariffs put in place by a teetotaling speed addict that hurt American importers and bruise our relationships with our allies.


MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
23. Then I will continue to order American wines.
Fri Jan 17, 2020, 01:25 PM
Jan 2020

I cannot remember the last time I ordered a European wine. I have ordered Australian wines and wines from Argentina a few times, but find that I can always choose an American wine that complements my meal excellently.

If prices for European wines go up, I won't notice.

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