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kentuck

(111,107 posts)
Fri Jan 17, 2020, 05:55 PM Jan 2020

Would it be a good strategy to get the Chief Justice more involved with the trial?

For example, by asking for a few more motions than the Chief Justice and the Republicans might be expecting? The element of surprise, from Sun Tzu.

This is maybe the strategy that McConnell might use?

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onenote

(42,737 posts)
1. I don't think you can make Roberts get more involved than he wants to be
Fri Jan 17, 2020, 06:26 PM
Jan 2020

He has the option of referring questions to a vote by the Senate. If he's flooded with motions, I suspect he'll simply swat them over to the Senate and the Republicans will quickly dispose of them.

Might it slow the process? Maybe. But it would be risky if the motions themselves start getting redundant. People will tune out if this becomes a boring process battle.

kentuck

(111,107 posts)
3. You may be right... just brainstorming.
Fri Jan 17, 2020, 06:32 PM
Jan 2020

....and it was a very light shower.

But the idea was one related to warfare. Perhaps not the best way to frame it?

kentuck

(111,107 posts)
2. Or maybe challenge a couple of their lead lawyers and put it to a vote.
Fri Jan 17, 2020, 06:29 PM
Jan 2020

White House Counsel Pat Cipollone and Personal Attorney Jay Sekulow have conflicts and should be called as witnesses? Cipollone signed the statement that the President of the United States would not obey any calls for documents or witnesses. He signed it.

Sekulow has been brought up very recently by the interviews with Lev Parnas. None of Parnas' comments about Sekulow have been confirmed or validated. But, even the appearance of possible wrongdoing is enough to maybe step aside?

kentuck

(111,107 posts)
5. I was speaking of war from a viewpoint of surprise.
Fri Jan 17, 2020, 07:09 PM
Jan 2020

The worst that can happen is that it be ruled out of order.

The point is to disrupt and confuse your opponent.

 

AncientGeezer

(2,146 posts)
6. Nobody is going to be disrupted or confused...it's a political process..NOT a War.
Fri Jan 17, 2020, 07:24 PM
Jan 2020

We're stuck with the Trumpanzee until Inauguration Jan'21....why you don't see that is beyond me.

kentuck

(111,107 posts)
7. O' Great Ancient One...
Fri Jan 17, 2020, 07:27 PM
Jan 2020

We don't doubt your prognostication.

But we will go down fighting. We are not going to surrender.

Perhaps, you have heard the phrase? "All is fair in love, war, and politics"?

 

AncientGeezer

(2,146 posts)
10. I know about the process....we win on election day
Fri Jan 17, 2020, 07:50 PM
Jan 2020

It's not a matter of surrender....it's a matter of math.
There aren't 67 Senate votes to remove the Dumpster....and never will be with a R majority Senate.......it's math...not love, war, and politics.....MATH.

kentuck

(111,107 posts)
11. It's about much more than that...
Fri Jan 17, 2020, 07:53 PM
Jan 2020

It's about connecting with people, the public. If you can't communicate, you can't get their votes.

 

AncientGeezer

(2,146 posts)
12. Which has WHAT to do with your OP...about the Chief Justice?
Fri Jan 17, 2020, 07:59 PM
Jan 2020

He's not going to communicate with the public....he's going to preside over the trial...not cut commercials

LiberalFighter

(51,020 posts)
8. It may require the Democrats to word the motions clearly.
Fri Jan 17, 2020, 07:43 PM
Jan 2020

Like... A motion for witnesses to testify so it is a fair trial for Trump. The last eight words in one form or another added to the motions. Then when there is a vote, a no vote would imply that the Republicans don't want a fair trial for Trump.

kentuck

(111,107 posts)
14. They must think it's FOX News - Fair and Balanced
Fri Jan 17, 2020, 09:05 PM
Jan 2020

Last edited Fri Jan 17, 2020, 10:46 PM - Edit history (1)

If you're going to charge Donald Trump, then it's only fair to charge a Democrat? No need to be relevant to the charges.

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