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Grasswire2

(13,571 posts)
Sat Jan 18, 2020, 01:31 AM Jan 2020

Disappointed that Maher, Meachem, other guest place more confidence in election than impeachment.

Joe Walsh actually has confidence in the impeachment to remove Trump.

How can anyone rely on the election when Mueller, Coats, Wray, Comey all told us UNDER OATH that it is rigged "as we sit here"?


All it takes for Trump to win is for several states to be hacked/botched in the tally, then referred to SCOTUS for resolution.

Voila. He's in and enabled.

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Disappointed that Maher, Meachem, other guest place more confidence in election than impeachment. (Original Post) Grasswire2 Jan 2020 OP
Who has the majority iin the Senate again? still_one Jan 2020 #1
every day the pressure builds against their position of intransigence. Grasswire2 Jan 2020 #4
They don't care, and those that break won't be enough. It takes 2/3 to convict still_one Jan 2020 #8
I have to RandySF Jan 2020 #2
Joe Walsh is not in touch with reality. Removal isn't happening. The election is. redstateblues Jan 2020 #3
the election IS RIGGED. Grasswire2 Jan 2020 #5
The trial doubly so. But Trump can't stop the election from coming, and it's coming quite soon now. NCLefty Jan 2020 #15
What if he watches polls showing him losing a week before and decides to cancel the election... Lock him up. Jan 2020 #16
and you can't be certain that the election is happening if Trump is acquitted. Grasswire2 Jan 2020 #6
Walsh has some skin in the game as he is running for the nomination applegrove Jan 2020 #7
well.....those of you who have zero faith in the impeachment making any impact... Grasswire2 Jan 2020 #9
I just don't want us to get our hopes up. We have a long election to fight. applegrove Jan 2020 #10
But we are told it's already rigged. Grasswire2 Jan 2020 #11
Don't break people's spirits. We would win today with many of our candidates. applegrove Jan 2020 #12
Mueller, Wray, Comey, Coats all told us so UNDER OATH on penalty of perjury. Grasswire2 Jan 2020 #13
Nobody is waiting for an election. We don't have the power in the senate applegrove Jan 2020 #14
How are you planning to remove Trump in the Impeachment trial? redstateblues Jan 2020 #17
No one has said it's already rigged. That's not what Muellar said redstateblues Jan 2020 #18

Grasswire2

(13,571 posts)
4. every day the pressure builds against their position of intransigence.
Sat Jan 18, 2020, 01:43 AM
Jan 2020

79 percent of the American people now want witnesses and evidence to be presented.

I believe some jurors will break.

It actually is up to we the people to be raising hell this week. Provide cover.

NCLefty

(3,678 posts)
15. The trial doubly so. But Trump can't stop the election from coming, and it's coming quite soon now.
Sat Jan 18, 2020, 03:36 AM
Jan 2020

Lock him up.

(6,946 posts)
16. What if he watches polls showing him losing a week before and decides to cancel the election...
Sat Jan 18, 2020, 04:28 AM
Jan 2020

... by declaring (a fake) Emergency and declares 'Elections? Who needs them? I declare myself POTUS for life.' (Article 2 blah-blah-blah.)

We all know he fears ending his days inside for life.

And no weak General, nor Admiral, nor Secret Service Leader does anything, doesn't say a word against that bone-spurs clown... like they always do...

Grasswire2

(13,571 posts)
6. and you can't be certain that the election is happening if Trump is acquitted.
Sat Jan 18, 2020, 01:45 AM
Jan 2020

No certainty there at all.

applegrove

(118,858 posts)
7. Walsh has some skin in the game as he is running for the nomination
Sat Jan 18, 2020, 01:46 AM
Jan 2020

for the Republican Party so he has reason to ...... hope/lie/delude-himself.

Grasswire2

(13,571 posts)
9. well.....those of you who have zero faith in the impeachment making any impact...
Sat Jan 18, 2020, 02:35 AM
Jan 2020

.....and who (given that we have little hope for a fair election considering what we have been promised by Comey, Coats, Wray, Mueller UNDER OATH) must see McConnell's refusal to bring election security to a vote...

I guess the whole shebang has no hope at all for you. It's over, then. Trump for life.

Impeachment a bust.

Election already lost.

applegrove

(118,858 posts)
10. I just don't want us to get our hopes up. We have a long election to fight.
Sat Jan 18, 2020, 02:44 AM
Jan 2020

It will be evil and nasty and full of lies on the right. We have to be ready to fight the election. There will be blood and their will be might. And we will win.

Grasswire2

(13,571 posts)
11. But we are told it's already rigged.
Sat Jan 18, 2020, 02:50 AM
Jan 2020

That's why we can't risk waiting for the election to save us. If he's not removed before, he will seize power in every part of government.

applegrove

(118,858 posts)
12. Don't break people's spirits. We would win today with many of our candidates.
Sat Jan 18, 2020, 02:57 AM
Jan 2020

Last edited Sat Jan 18, 2020, 04:10 AM - Edit history (1)

I don't know where you are getting that it is rigged and over. Yes the russians will try. So will dark money. And many other things.

Grasswire2

(13,571 posts)
13. Mueller, Wray, Comey, Coats all told us so UNDER OATH on penalty of perjury.
Sat Jan 18, 2020, 03:01 AM
Jan 2020

Mueller said it's rigged "AS WE SIT HERE."

Daily I read the "hair on fire" of the election security experts who are screaming of the risk.

I'm not breaking people's spirit. I'm pushing for people to consider the risk of waiting for a rigged election.

applegrove

(118,858 posts)
14. Nobody is waiting for an election. We don't have the power in the senate
Sat Jan 18, 2020, 03:06 AM
Jan 2020

to convict. The election will be monitored. I'm sure the Democrats have better security than the last election. It is in no way over. We can hope for impeachment being upheld or convicted in the senate but we should not have high hopes. We don't have the numbers to convict. We may have the numbers to get witnesses. We only require 4 more. So we can hope for that big time this weekend. And call your senator if they are Republican again and again this weekend. Just get a cup of tea, sit down by the phone, and call all local and washington phone numbers.

One of the DU rules is not to create apathy. People should be spring loaded to vote vote vote, not told their vote does not matter.

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