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Dennis Donovan

(18,770 posts)
Sun Jan 19, 2020, 02:02 PM Jan 2020

Dersh on Nixon: "I'm not happy seeing Nixon's gang being tried by blacks and liberals in DC"



Ashton Pittman @ shtonpittman

"I'm not happy seeing Richard Nixon's gang being tried by blacks and liberals the District of Columbia."
—Alan Dershowitz, Trump's impeachment attorney, 11/21/74




Matt Rogers 🎙 @Politidope

This is what Alan Dershowitz said in 1974 about the Nixon impeachment.



12:39 PM - Jan 19, 2020


That darn Dersh!
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Dersh on Nixon: "I'm not happy seeing Nixon's gang being tried by blacks and liberals in DC" (Original Post) Dennis Donovan Jan 2020 OP
Just being "contrarian????" hlthe2b Jan 2020 #1
Haha! Well done. I followed that stupid thread. Dershowitz is a POS. Shaddox Jan 2020 #30
Professor Dershowitz was just talking as an academic dalton99a Jan 2020 #2
or, as he just described himself SCantiGOP Jan 2020 #8
Take a bow, Harvard! moondust Jan 2020 #3
Only the best and the brightest... Obviously not. Ivy League Edu ain't what it's cracked up to be. erronis Jan 2020 #14
Eye-opening. Mike 03 Jan 2020 #4
What was the context? mr_lebowski Jan 2020 #5
Here: OilemFirchen Jan 2020 #13
Alan Dearthofwits Devilsun Jan 2020 #6
This message was self-deleted by its author Rainbow Droid Jan 2020 #19
You 😈 Duppers Jan 2020 #28
What I'd give anything to understand... Mike 03 Jan 2020 #7
Dershowitz' positions on a variety of issues have been wildly inconsistent. The Velveteen Ocelot Jan 2020 #9
I really appreciate your answer. Mike 03 Jan 2020 #10
I think staying relevant is the motive for both Dershwitz and Starr. patphil Jan 2020 #22
agreed. the man's relevance is diminished by his record. stopdiggin Jan 2020 #23
He regrets his support of Obama because of a Farrakhan photo JonLP24 Jan 2020 #29
This is a hell of a good find and explains a lot!! NT Bleacher Creature Jan 2020 #11
It seems he wanted a jury with fewer "blacks and liberals" muriel_volestrangler Jan 2020 #12
In other words, blacks and liberals are as incapable of legal impartiality as a Mexican judge. Karadeniz Jan 2020 #15
K & R & Retweeted for Exposure! SunSeeker Jan 2020 #16
They would love to bring back segregation IronLionZion Jan 2020 #17
Recommended. H2O Man Jan 2020 #18
This message was self-deleted by its author Pepsidog Jan 2020 #20
Putrid Man. zentrum Jan 2020 #21
Pretty interesting, coming from a Jew. smirkymonkey Jan 2020 #24
For anyone that claims times have not changed. Blue_true Jan 2020 #25
With that statement and his support for the un-American racist in the WH shows his true self rockfordfile Jan 2020 #26
He deserves his yellow/gray goat teeth. He is a barnyard lawyer JDC Jan 2020 #27
Sooooooooo, he's a racist asshole ... typical Trumper OJ defender type uponit7771 Jan 2020 #31

erronis

(15,339 posts)
14. Only the best and the brightest... Obviously not. Ivy League Edu ain't what it's cracked up to be.
Sun Jan 19, 2020, 03:50 PM
Jan 2020
 

mr_lebowski

(33,643 posts)
5. What was the context?
Sun Jan 19, 2020, 02:24 PM
Jan 2020

This sounds like something that, in a certain context, could be relatively inoffensive.

OilemFirchen

(7,143 posts)
13. Here:
Sun Jan 19, 2020, 03:28 PM
Jan 2020
The jury now hearing the Watergate coverup trial is confined where news of the trial cannot reach it and possibly affect its deliberations.

Nonetheless, U.S. District Court Judge John Sirica should have moved the trial from Washington to insure an impartial jury, Bailey and Dershowitz said.

“I’m not happy seeing Richad Nixon’s gang being tried by blacks and liberals in the Disrict of Columbia,” said Dershowitz.

He thought it would have been “a lot fairer” to have moved the trial to “a district of Maryland where [the 1972 election] was very close, and where you had a mixture of whites and blacks.”

A majority of the Watergate coverup jury is black.

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Snopes: Did Dershowitz Say He Was ‘Not Happy Seeing Nixon’s Gang Being Tried by Blacks and Liberals’?

Devilsun

(202 posts)
6. Alan Dearthofwits
Sun Jan 19, 2020, 02:27 PM
Jan 2020

I can't think of anything more symbolic than having the guy that got OJ off, representing tRump.

Response to Devilsun (Reply #6)

Mike 03

(16,616 posts)
7. What I'd give anything to understand...
Sun Jan 19, 2020, 02:31 PM
Jan 2020

There's someone very dear to me who is approaching 80 years of age and is one of the most liberal people you'd ever meet, and this person has an idea that Dershowitz was a champion of liberal causes and civil rights who just recently "went bad." This person isn't an idiot at all. How do such misunderstandings occur?

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,866 posts)
9. Dershowitz' positions on a variety of issues have been wildly inconsistent.
Sun Jan 19, 2020, 02:45 PM
Jan 2020

He has been a strong supporter of First Amendment rights and supported the elections of both Obama and Clinton, which is probably why he has the reputation of being a liberal. But he's been all over the place. I think he's always been a contrarian and a shit-stirrer but he's doing more of it now because he wants to stay relevant.

Mike 03

(16,616 posts)
10. I really appreciate your answer.
Sun Jan 19, 2020, 02:48 PM
Jan 2020

She could probably relate to some of his positions in the past, since he took so many.

This is a question that's been on my mind for a while, so thanks for the explanation. When I told her he was a regular guest on Fox news, at first I don't think she believed me.

patphil

(6,213 posts)
22. I think staying relevant is the motive for both Dershwitz and Starr.
Sun Jan 19, 2020, 04:55 PM
Jan 2020

They're both very egocentric; need to see themselves in the media.

JonLP24

(29,322 posts)
29. He regrets his support of Obama because of a Farrakhan photo
Sun Jan 19, 2020, 10:39 PM
Jan 2020

I'm sure he supported Hillary Clinton then McCain-Palin but came around for Obama by his second term but he regrets his support of Obama because of a Farrakhan photo.

Here is what I could find.



During the 2008 Democratic Party primaries, Dershowitz endorsed Hillary Clinton, calling her "a progressive on social issues, a realist on foreign policy, a pragmatist on the economy".[55] In 2012, he strongly supported Barack Obama's re-election, writing, "President Obama has earned my vote on the basis of his excellent judicial appointments, his consensus-building foreign policy, and the improvements he has brought about in the disastrous economy he inherited."[56] In 2018, after a photo with then-Senator Obama and Nation of Islam leader Louis Farrakhan at a 2005 meeting of the Congressional Black Caucus emerged, Dershowitz insisted that he never would have campaigned for Obama had the photo been publicized soon after it was taken.[57]

During the 2020 Democratic Party primaries, Dershowitz endorsed Joe Biden. He said: "I'm a strong supporter of Joe Biden. I like Joe Biden. I've liked him for a long time, and I could enthusiastically support Joe Biden." He criticized Bernie Sanders, saying: "I don't think under any circumstances I could vote for a man who went to England and campaigned for a bigot and anti-Semite like Jeremy Corbyn."[58]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alan_Dershowitz

muriel_volestrangler

(101,367 posts)
12. It seems he wanted a jury with fewer "blacks and liberals"
Sun Jan 19, 2020, 03:20 PM
Jan 2020
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/dershowitz-nixon-gang-dc/

So he trusted "whites" in Maryland to be objective, but not "blacks and liberals" in DC. The perfect fit for Trump.

Karadeniz

(22,574 posts)
15. In other words, blacks and liberals are as incapable of legal impartiality as a Mexican judge.
Sun Jan 19, 2020, 03:56 PM
Jan 2020

I understand.

IronLionZion

(45,534 posts)
17. They would love to bring back segregation
Sun Jan 19, 2020, 04:03 PM
Jan 2020

to really make America great again for some folks while screwing over others.

H2O Man

(73,622 posts)
18. Recommended.
Sun Jan 19, 2020, 04:07 PM
Jan 2020

Thank you very much for this. It is, obviously, very important, as this the the phase of life where he fancied himself a "liberal." I won't go so far as to say he was never intelligent -- indeed, he was. But he is now sumply parroting words and phrases from the past, trying to connect them to current events.

For example, saying the current impeachment doesn't specify any "crime" that the Founding Fathers' intended to be mandatory. In fact, there were NO federal crimes then. But everyone knew what bribery was. More, "treason" was defined by the Constitution. The original "maladministration" was replaced by "high crimes and misdemeanors" because being untalented was not impeachable, whereas being corrupt was.

It's curious that his opinion on Watergate is exactly the same as Dick Cheney's, as expressed by the old Dick-dripping to the media around the time he wrote his dissent on the Iran-Contra investigation.

Response to Dennis Donovan (Original post)

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
25. For anyone that claims times have not changed.
Sun Jan 19, 2020, 05:15 PM
Jan 2020

If he made such a statement today, his economic life would be finished, yet after that statement in 74, he kept his job in academia and was called "renowned" by many.

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