Former Wharton professor weighs in on Trump's high IQ claim

[Dennis Donovan]

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7:08 AM - Jan 21, 2020

[getagrip_already]

1. Question for professor kelly....

Did you pass him?

If so (and most professors must have or he wouldn't have graduated), why?

You aren't much of a professor if you pass the dumbest student you ever had. Just saying.

[2naSalit]

4. Yeah, well...

I bet he had a nice boat though!

[PatrickforO]

14. Nah, politics. That's what it is. Daddy probably donated enough money to

build a gym or outfit the football team or something. Can't exactly fail little Donnie, then, can you?

[RVN VET71]

22. Easier to give a rich man's son a "pass" in a "pass/fail" class

Old man Drumpf would have sued, and litigation would have put a freeze on the guy's career, possibly for years. Besides, stupid as Trump is, the prof. probably assumed that he was going to nestle in obscurity in one of daddy's businesses.

It may not have been correct to pass a "fuckin' moron" (to quote Rex Tillerson), but it might have been disastrous (for this professor) had he failed him. Maybe not disastrous, but more trouble than it seemed worth at the time.

[getagrip_already]

23. which is why I want him to answer the question.....

either he failed him, someone else changed the grade or he passed him. It may not have been a p/f course. Those weren't common at ivy league schools back then.

[radical noodle]

25. Do we know he graduated? n/t

[getagrip_already]

27. a reporter must have verified it....

A school will always confirm a record of graduation if asked. It's the records behind that they won't disclose.

How he managed it? Who knows. It could have been a vote from the board to confir a degree based on extenuating circumstances, but we will never know.

[bullwinkle428]

2. Reporter Carol Leonnig ("Very Stable Genius" co-author) was talking about

his trip to Pearl Harbor in an interview this morning. The Presidential entourage was being shuttled out to the site of the Arizona memorial, and he supposedly asked John Kelly, "So what exactly is this all about?"

GAME, SET, MATCH.

[CaptYossarian]

9. "I campaigned in Arizona. This doesn't look at all like Arizona."

Or--

"Obama was born here? Have the limo take us to Nairobi."

[calimary]

24. He probably wouldn't know where (or what) Nairobi is.

[CaptYossarian]

28. Since his birther movement started his political career, I gave him the benefit of the doubt.

[keithbvadu2]

30. Donald thought he knew where Nambia was.

Donald thought he knew where Nambia was.

[PatrickforO]

15. You know, ordinarily I'd read your post and say, "No way someone could

be THAT ignorant."

But remember the movie they did on John McCain's 2008 campaign against Obama?

Remember when Steve Schmidt was talking to the consultants they were bringing in to get Sarah Palin up to speed on foreign policy? Palin thought England was ruled by the queen, remember. She was woefully ignorant - a fine example of a future Trump supporter.

Well, the consultant asked Steve if they should begin with some of the nuances around the wars in Iraq or something, and then the scene changed.

Sarah was sitting at a table, surrounded by consultants. They had a map of Europe up, and the first like of dialog was, "THIS is Germany!"

Remember she thought Africa was a country.

If she can be that ill informed, that poorly read, then surely a president who hasn't read an actual book in decades can be as well.

[marieo1]

21. Can't comprehend books

I'll bet DJT has never ever in his life read a book!! I think he hates reading and can't comprehend what is written!!

[EndlessWire]

29. Well

we know that he read the second book by Hitler, which he kept on his nightstand. We know because his first wife told us so, and the guy who gave him the gift book confirmed it.

[PatrickforO]

33. The guy actually practices the facial expressions and hand movements

Hitler used, so they say. And I've seen some pictures that have Trump making these identical gestures.

But to my knowledge, Hitler only wrote the one book, Mein Kampf.

[Mike 03]

3. I want to see the report cards and grades almost as badly as the tax returns. nt

[redstatebluegirl]

6. Grades can be bought and changed by big donors.

I have no doubt his dad bought his degree.

[Butterflylady]

16. Well, if he would've had excellent grades

He would've showed them to the whole world and bragged about them so you can imagine how bad they were.

[marieo1]

32. Report cards

Oh......wouldn't that be so fun? We all know he is a moron - the only thing he really excels at is using people for his own benefit, pleasure and greed. Of course, you know if there were great grades he would be shouting it from the rooftops!!!

[bdamomma]

5. tRump is suffering from

many psychological issues. Plus he is risk to himself and others, we already have experienced the killing of Soleimani and the imprisonment of children.

We will never recognize this country again if he stays on.

[Perseus]

10. I am not worried about him being a risk to himself, I can live with that risk

The problem is this cult that has built around him and the characters in it, like Barr, Moscow-Mitch, Miller, etc. and my feeling is that they don't give a damn about the idiot, but the idiot is a great shield to their evil deeds.

[Shoonra]

7. Some context please

What course(s) was the Prez taking under Prof. Kelly??

[CaptYossarian]

11. It could be any one of the courses he took. He's dumb as hell, doesn't read,

doesn't listen ("Many people are saying..." are the voices in his head), is too lazy to study, and isn't curious because he knows it all already. Like his college experience, his presidency consists of flying by the seat of his pants. A narcissist is always right, won't admit otherwise, and will never apologize.

If he had held any lesser office before this, like alderman or school board member, he still would have been in over his head.

[Dennis Donovan]

19. I googled - marketing, and it's apparently true:

https://www.phillymag.com/news/2019/09/14/donald-trump-at-wharton-university-of-pennsylvania/

Mystery #2: Did one of his Wharton professors repeatedly tell friends and associates that Donald Trump “was the dumbest goddamn student I ever had”?
It’s rare for a professor to disparage the intelligence of a student, but according to attorney Frank DiPrima, who was close friends with professor William T. Kelley for 47 years, the prof made an exception for Donald Trump, at least in private. “He must have told me that 100 times over the course of 30 years,” says DiPrima, who has been practicing law since 1963 and has served as in-house counsel for entities including the Federal Trade Commission and Playboy Enterprises. “I remember the inflection of his voice when he said it: ‘Donald Trump was the dumbest goddamn student I ever had!’” He would say that [Trump] came to Wharton thinking he already knew everything, that he was arrogant and he wasn’t there to learn.” Kelley, who passed away in 2011 at age 94, taught marketing at Wharton for 31 years, retiring in 1982.

https://www.chicagotribune.com/columns/steve-chapman/ct-perspec-chapman-donald-trump-dumb-20171103-story.html

The late William T. Kelley, who taught Trump at the University of Pennsylvania, said, “Donald Trump was the dumbest goddamn student I ever had.” Tony Schwartz, the ghostwriter of “The Art of the Deal,” says Trump had “a stunning level of superficial knowledge and plain ignorance.”

[radical noodle]

26. I googled him

He taught marketing for 31 years.

[Wounded Bear]

8. Old news, but nice meme...

we heard this shit years ago, but not enough people listened.

[usaf-vet]

12. This should not be a surprise to anyone who listen to tRump's Attorney Michael Cohen who said.....

.... tRump dispatched Cohen to every school he ever attended to deliver a threat that if they revealed his grades to anyone he would take them to court.

To quote Cohen:
“When I say conman, I’m talking about a man who declares himself brilliant but directed me to threaten his high school, his colleges, and the College Board to never release his grades or SAT scores,” .

WHY do that is you are a "stable genius"?

You would do that if you were lying con man who planned on lying and bullying your way through life.

Read details here: https://apnews.com/04f0236264e8427d9995e4de68e62729

[YOHABLO]

13. Do we really need his grades to verify what we already know?

[sdfernando]

20. No we don't.....

but the effect it would have on his orange lardship if all of them were released and everyone gets to see how truly dumb and ignorant he is...that would be a site to see.

[gab13by13]

17. I would like to see his diploma,

It's easy to get his name in a book with real graduates, but harder to give him a real diploma.

[dalton99a]

18. Trump: "I got an A+!!!"

Probably A+++

[keithbvadu2]

31. MENSA offered to give Trump an IQ test but he was at least smart enough to reject it.

MENSA offered to give Trump an IQ test but he was at least smart enough to reject it.