One for the NYT Ethicist. Republican dilemma..

[Laura PourMeADrink]

Republicans senatorial choices:

A. Do what is morally right and convict Trump because he deserves removal to the nth degree.

or

B. Realize that if you vote to convict, you are pretty much acquiescing that your opposition will win the WH and you will lose power since Pence can not win the WH. Your chances of promoting conservatism are vastly diminished.

[leftieNanner]

1. Gee! What a difficult choice!

Except you should have put "conservatism" in quotes, because these idiots are anything but conservative.

Your post is excellent - and it shows that they will certainly make the choice of Door Number Two - expediency over morality.

On Edit: Now that you mention it Laurapourmeadrink, I think I will go pour me a drink!

[applegrove]

2. Plus if Trump loses in an election he still owns his base of 43% and

he will run again in 2024. If he is impeached he can't run again. Can he?

[avebury]

3. Unless the state of NY succefully prosecutes

him and he ends up in jail. We can hope.

[Dan]

5. Only if removed - then he cannot longer run for any Federal office.

[applegrove]

6. Can his children run? To stop them would be very North Korea of the US. nt

[Dan]

7. Sure, unless convicted of certain crimes (Felony) and meeting other eligibilty requirements.

[Dan]

4. C. This is what I would have said

Realize that if you vote to acquit - you are pretty much acquiescing Congressional powers to the WH. Recognizing that more information will come out about what Trump has done already And that POTUS will do more and worse after being acquitted. In addition, based on his actions to date there is no guarantee of a free and fair election in 2020. To be honest, POTUS might say, why have an election.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

10. Yes...but isn't he, by doing everything trump, creating

that situation, with or without an Impeachment trial? We have already abdicated congressional oversight. Not in name, but in actuality? In efficacy?

[Dan]

12. Nancy has made a statement - which is why we are in an impeachment

The Senate under Moscow Mitch is abdicating the role of the Senate to the POTUS.

[lame54]

8. They won't buy that argument...

They think Trump's reelection is a lock

Unfortunately many or our side think the same

[Laura PourMeADrink]

11. I might realistically think otherwise is we knew we had

Prevented job #1, stopped Russian interference.

[Atticus]

9. An ethical Republican senator---I'll pause here to allow you to laugh, scream or cry after that

oxymoron---------------------would never consider B because such self-serving calculations would never enter their mind.