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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region Forums****LIVE IMPEACHMENT TRIAL 1/24/20 THREAD 2****
Thread 1 - https://www.democraticunderground.com/100212904989
BumRushDaShow
(129,263 posts)Mersky
(4,986 posts)1. Russias plot is ongoing
2. pResident tRumps refuses to condemn Russian attacks
3. pResident tRumps pattern foreshadows misconduct
4. pResident tRumps ongoing offenses leaves our elections vulnerable
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Reposted from the end of Live Thread #1, comment #93
BumRushDaShow
(129,263 posts)BumRushDaShow
(129,263 posts)Arkansas Granny
(31,523 posts)BumRushDaShow
(129,263 posts)Mersky
(4,986 posts)Is a segment of his argument that needs coverage.
5X
(3,972 posts)BumRushDaShow
(129,263 posts)gademocrat7
(10,665 posts)Showing Helsinki press conference with Trump promoting Russian propaganda.
Hermit-The-Prog
(33,388 posts)These threads are as much relief as they are informative.
BumRushDaShow
(129,263 posts)Hermit-The-Prog
(33,388 posts)BumRushDaShow
(129,263 posts)Hermit-The-Prog
(33,388 posts)BumRushDaShow
(129,263 posts)which will go into tonight...
Hermit-The-Prog
(33,388 posts)BumRushDaShow
(129,263 posts)and is probably why it was the first article.
When they finally go to vote, although we know what the outcome will be, each Article is voted on separately so one could have a conviction on one Article and acquittal on another.
Hermit-The-Prog
(33,388 posts)BumRushDaShow
(129,263 posts)And I think it also had a bigger burden of proof.
I think Article II is "obstruction of Congress" which may be more cut and dry going through all their refusals to provide docs, witnesses, etc.
BumRushDaShow
(129,263 posts)(I had texted that comparison to my cousin last night when describing Schiff's presentation yesterday)
Hermit-The-Prog
(33,388 posts)BumRushDaShow
(129,263 posts)crickets
(25,981 posts)crickets
(25,981 posts)Trump is Putin's puppet.
BumRushDaShow
(129,263 posts)sprinkleeninow
(20,254 posts)putins puppet
putins puppet
putins puppet
putins pu....
Hermit-The-Prog
(33,388 posts)malaise
(269,114 posts)He is weaving all the different textures and colors of the criminality that is Don the Con and his goons.
Back for the rest of the day/night.
Mersky
(4,986 posts)In the end, Trumps performance alongside Putin in the Finnish capital seemed like a tour through his most controversial conspiracy theories, tweets and off-the-cuff musings on Russia except he did it all while abroad, standing just feet from Putin, the leader of one of Americas greatest geopolitical foes.
The spectacle in Helsinki also underscored Trumps eagerness to disregard his own advisers, his willingness to flout the conclusions of his own intelligence community that Russia interfered in the 2016 U.S. elections and his apparent fear that pressing Putin on the subject might cast doubt on his electoral victory.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/very-much-counter-to-the-plan-trump-defies-advisers-in-embrace-of-putin/2018/07/16/b2176bfe-8921-11e8-a345-a1bf7847b375_story.html
Hermit-The-Prog
(33,388 posts)Mersky
(4,986 posts)Is teamwork in here
DonaldsRump
(7,715 posts)Am listening to him right now, and this is the most compelling advocacy I have ever heard from a lawyer (and I'm a lawyer myself).
This man needs to be President one day very, very soon. He is the essence of a great statesman.
bpositive
(423 posts)BumRushDaShow
(129,263 posts)Hermit-The-Prog
(33,388 posts)BumRushDaShow
(129,263 posts)Hermit-The-Prog
(33,388 posts)And now they're talking to Leningrad Lindsey in the hall.
MUTED.
Kali
(55,017 posts)STFU!!!!
Hermit-The-Prog
(33,388 posts)Lonestarblue
(10,036 posts)He must have been one hell of a prosecutor.
dchill
(38,514 posts)nolabear
(41,990 posts)Asking leading questions about how hell vote, and do the Dems have the votes re witnesses. Hes doing great, not taking any of it.
Ill give them one thing. In the few minutes I watched they covered the ABC story re the new recording, showed a clip of 45 in an interview to be on tonight where he said he had every right to say it, and then pointed out it did go counter to his claim of not knowing Parnas and Fruman.
Now back to sanity...
BumRushDaShow
(129,263 posts)and the man looked frazzled and started stabbing his finger in the air spewing about yet another CT.
elleng
(131,028 posts)will seriously miss Dems. Sorry rain here tomorrow, so limited interest in being outside.
Hermit-The-Prog
(33,388 posts)BumRushDaShow
(129,263 posts)He was like "W-w-w-we're gonna have our case ready for tomorrow!!111!! We're working on it!!!!" "What they won't tell you blah blah Fusion GPS!!111!!!! blah blah FBI!!!11!!!! blah blah".
Hermit-The-Prog
(33,388 posts)BumRushDaShow
(129,263 posts)BumRushDaShow
(129,263 posts)Hermit-The-Prog
(33,388 posts)nolabear
(41,990 posts)nolabear
(41,990 posts)That blue yesterday and now the purple...
BumRushDaShow
(129,263 posts)I am fascinated by that outfit!! Royal purple (I used to love that color when I was little ).
Mme. Defarge
(8,036 posts)BumRushDaShow
(129,263 posts)in response to 71 specific requests including 5 subpoenas.
Hermit-The-Prog
(33,388 posts)crickets
(25,981 posts)You should be hearing this evidence NOW.
Hermit-The-Prog
(33,388 posts)crickets
(25,981 posts)Hermit-The-Prog
(33,388 posts)Mersky
(4,986 posts)Comprehensive: Applied to the entire eXecutive Branch
Categorical: Prohibited all cooperation
Indiscriminate: No case-by-case consideration & No negotiation
BumRushDaShow
(129,263 posts)Hermit-The-Prog
(33,388 posts)Mersky
(4,986 posts)(Images of the official seals and titles of the following
- White House
- Office of the Vice pResident
- Office of Management and Budget
- Department of State
- Department of Defense
- Department of Energy
BumRushDaShow
(129,263 posts)(and related to that - I JUST read about Ghouliani having been in an unhinged interview on Faux this morning refusing to leave and railing CT - https://www.democraticunderground.com/10142423484 )
Mersky
(4,986 posts)- pResident tRump took extraordinary measures to conceal evidence from Congress
- Obstruction of Congress warrants impeachment
- PResident tRump acted unlawfully and must be removed from office
BumRushDaShow
(129,263 posts)crickets
(25,981 posts)Wonkette!
https://www.wonkette.com/take-her-out-heads-on-pikes-trump-impeachment-trial-liveblog-day-four
(edit for correct day - there's liveblogging for each one)
Hermit-The-Prog
(33,388 posts)BumRushDaShow
(129,263 posts)"As a lawyer and former judge have never seen anything like this"
Hermit-The-Prog
(33,388 posts)Hermit-The-Prog
(33,388 posts)Woodruff interrupts Garcia to say that the continuing coverage will continue as soon as she finishes telling that the continuing coverage will continue
crickets
(25,981 posts)Up to now, no credible complaint had ever been ignored.
BumRushDaShow
(129,263 posts)(obstruction)
And no claim of privilege was made.
crickets
(25,981 posts)Hermit-The-Prog
(33,388 posts)crickets
(25,981 posts)Mersky
(4,986 posts)- Refused to turn over whistleblower complaint
- Issued a blanket order banning all cooperation
- Publicly attacked key witnesses
Mersky
(4,986 posts)- July 25th call record placed on highly classified computer system
- Initially kept freeze confidential
- Unlawfully withheld whistleblower complaint from Congress
in2herbs
(2,947 posts)Mersky
(4,986 posts)Blocked the fourth item on the slide of subpoenas. Pretty please?!
crickets
(25,981 posts)(as they normally would and should) until Trump interfered and ordered them to refuse.
gademocrat7
(10,665 posts)Proving that trump and his minions obstructed at every turn.
Hermit-The-Prog
(33,388 posts)crickets
(25,981 posts)Wasn't there a set of redacted e-mails released recently per FOIA request where the unredacted e-mails later were leaked and showed the redactions were unnecessary?
BumRushDaShow
(129,263 posts)BumRushDaShow
(129,263 posts)re: Sondland not allowed to have access to any of his notes or emails, etc., relevant to the Congressional records request.