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It's distressing to see Chairman Schiff and the House Managers (Original Post) maxrandb Jan 2020 OP
Excellent point. So true. Evolve Dammit Jan 2020 #1
When it comes to Repubs, the MSM can get really lazy sandensea Jan 2020 #2
Our media has decayed into reporting what politicians and celebrities assert as facts, paulkienitz Jan 2020 #3
That's a giant slab of truth right there. democrank Jan 2020 #4
Isn't it!!! ffr Jan 2020 #5
Especially with the media giving trump all that free media during 2016. LiberalFighter Jan 2020 #6
Yep, It was the media, Jim Comey, and Vladimir Putin RVN VET71 Jan 2020 #31
And far too many opinion writers are just right-wing hacks with no credentials. Lonestarblue Jan 2020 #7
Yes! The honesty is refreshing flamingdem Jan 2020 #8
Rachel Maddow CloudWatcher Jan 2020 #9
For instance Rebl2 Jan 2020 #14
AND the recently departed Jim Lehrer. Haggis for Breakfast Jan 2020 #17
Jim Lehrer .. News / Noise CloudWatcher Jan 2020 #18
They've been outstanding. I'm so impressed and grateful for their excellent work. liberalla Jan 2020 #10
I know 90% plus of what the Impeachment Managers are saying already. maxsolomon Jan 2020 #11
The NYT NewJeffCT Jan 2020 #23
"Flood the zone with shit" - S. Bannon maxsolomon Jan 2020 #32
Cheap Shot Roy Rolling Jan 2020 #12
It's hard to be specific when it's so prolific maxrandb Jan 2020 #19
and don't forget with MSNBC NewJeffCT Jan 2020 #24
Instead.... Catch2.2 Jan 2020 #13
But Hillary Clinton's emails were catnip for news media, NYT especially! nt Prof.Higgins Jan 2020 #15
How many "Butter email" stories does it take for them to stop accusing us of bias maxrandb Jan 2020 #20
Exactly. nt iluvtennis Jan 2020 #16
I still don't see impeachment as the number one story on the news. mucifer Jan 2020 #21
+1000 smirkymonkey Jan 2020 #22
True, but what about Hillary Clinton's emails? MarianJack Jan 2020 #25
Well now they know what they don't know. dem4decades Jan 2020 #26
Not excusing their actions but the reason is that DT will demonize ANY person or org. that napi21 Jan 2020 #27
Again, blaming the media. Yes, a significant portion of the media is clueless or Nitram Jan 2020 #28
!!!! Native Jan 2020 #29
A large part of the Impeachment case was evidence brought to light by the media. Midnight Writer Jan 2020 #30
Yeah but. maxsolomon Jan 2020 #33

paulkienitz

(1,296 posts)
3. Our media has decayed into reporting what politicians and celebrities assert as facts,
Fri Jan 24, 2020, 08:17 PM
Jan 2020

rather than digging up facts themselves. A few organizations still hire real reporters but most find them redundant.

ffr

(22,671 posts)
5. Isn't it!!!
Fri Jan 24, 2020, 08:23 PM
Jan 2020

Fucking networks play tRump spouting his talking points for 50 minutes and then give Americans fighting for the survival of our republic 50 seconds, then back to rePuticans for the remaining 10 minutes.

Thanks for calling them out!

RVN VET71

(2,694 posts)
31. Yep, It was the media, Jim Comey, and Vladimir Putin
Sat Jan 25, 2020, 05:14 PM
Jan 2020

who put Trump on the throne.

The media was looking for ratings and, thereby, sold its soul.

Comey wanted to convince the "Never Hillary" members of the FBI that he was one of them.

And Vladimir Putin knew that Hillary Clinton would view him (and properly so) as an adversary of the United States and all free people in the world, and act accordingly.

Lonestarblue

(10,036 posts)
7. And far too many opinion writers are just right-wing hacks with no credentials.
Fri Jan 24, 2020, 08:24 PM
Jan 2020

I understand the need to present alternative viewpoints based on legitimate knowledge. I don’t understand the need to give credence to complete lies simply to show some pretend even handedness.

CloudWatcher

(1,850 posts)
9. Rachel Maddow
Fri Jan 24, 2020, 08:43 PM
Jan 2020

Agreed .. but with some exceptions. Notably Rachel Maddow has been on this almost every day.

It's best to remember that our "news media" is but entertainment.

Haggis for Breakfast

(6,831 posts)
17. AND the recently departed Jim Lehrer.
Fri Jan 24, 2020, 09:57 PM
Jan 2020

There is an editorial cartoon floating around. It shows Jim as the journalist he was in the first frame, captioned with "News." In the second, it shows a shouting hack, with the caption, "Noise."

Nailed it.

maxsolomon

(33,350 posts)
11. I know 90% plus of what the Impeachment Managers are saying already.
Fri Jan 24, 2020, 08:53 PM
Jan 2020

I learned it from the Media - Rachel, the NYT...

Who are you specifically blaming?

NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
23. The NYT
Sat Jan 25, 2020, 10:46 AM
Jan 2020

made the Hillary email scandal and the Clinton Foundation scandal into mountains when they were really non stories.

While the Trump scandals made the news, they had nowhere near the prominence because there were so many of them.

maxsolomon

(33,350 posts)
32. "Flood the zone with shit" - S. Bannon
Sat Jan 25, 2020, 05:14 PM
Jan 2020

During the 2016 campaign, the GOP succeeded at "working the Refs". Whine and flop and wheedle, and eventually the calls go your way.

Now, they foul so much the Refs can't call it all.

Roy Rolling

(6,925 posts)
12. Cheap Shot
Fri Jan 24, 2020, 09:07 PM
Jan 2020

“The Media” should have been doing more?

That’s straight out of the GOP/Russian propaganda playbook.

There are plenty of terrible media outlets like Fox News. Their desperate hope is that all media outlets will be tarred and feathered along with them. That’s how they hide the fact they aren’t news but political propaganda.

I inderstand your point, but you gotta be more specific pointing out the bad players from the good ones. The “media” is not to blame. Commercial, propaganda outlets are.

maxrandb

(15,345 posts)
19. It's hard to be specific when it's so prolific
Sat Jan 25, 2020, 12:18 AM
Jan 2020

Even the network like MSNBC where Rachel does a great job, devolve into journalist interviewing journalist, and then we can rest assured that Chris Matthews or some other schmuck will come on to talk about "gravitas" and "optics".

Instead of hard hitting journalism to get at the truth, we get innumerable town Halls with hayseeds from Dumbfuckistan Murika.

Pundits chuckling about how media savvy Donnie Shit for Brains is as he destroys our country is NOT news.

60-70% of the American people have never heard the story of this dipshits corruption in a meaningful, fact supported way!

It's no wonder people care more about a morning show host catching whipped cream in their mouth.

Yeah, that was actually a "discussion" on MSNBC in the middle of a fucking impeachment hearing.

NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
24. and don't forget with MSNBC
Sat Jan 25, 2020, 10:47 AM
Jan 2020

Morning Joe and Mika helped legitimize Trump - even though he was caught on mic begging them not ask him tough questions.

Catch2.2

(629 posts)
13. Instead....
Fri Jan 24, 2020, 09:14 PM
Jan 2020

the media is too busy having right wing pundits on their show so they can have view points from "both sides". As a result, they end up giving exposure to the right wing/trump propaganda that has corrupted this country!

maxrandb

(15,345 posts)
20. How many "Butter email" stories does it take for them to stop accusing us of bias
Sat Jan 25, 2020, 12:21 AM
Jan 2020

That's a number that doesn't exist

napi21

(45,806 posts)
27. Not excusing their actions but the reason is that DT will demonize ANY person or org. that
Sat Jan 25, 2020, 12:35 PM
Jan 2020

puts him in a bad light. (Much like they've done to CNN. They all want & need his input to be able to do their job & if he and his surrogates will not appear on your Network, you are at a disadvantage.

Does make me wonder HOW the media has gotten the reputation of leaning left wing!!!

Nitram

(22,845 posts)
28. Again, blaming the media. Yes, a significant portion of the media is clueless or
Sat Jan 25, 2020, 12:47 PM
Jan 2020

totally right wing. But there is a lot of excellent reporting and journalism going on, and we would all be totally clueless if it wasn't. Our enemy is the GOP and the right wing, not "the media." Whoever blames the media for the mess we're in should reflect on the fact that Trump hates the media, and blame it for all his problems.

Midnight Writer

(21,779 posts)
30. A large part of the Impeachment case was evidence brought to light by the media.
Sat Jan 25, 2020, 02:17 PM
Jan 2020

Even Congress with subpoena power can't get information of documents from The White House. The media is doing better with FOIA lawsuits. As a result, most of what we know is from reporting by our media.



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