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MelissaB

(16,420 posts)
Tue Jan 28, 2020, 06:46 PM Jan 2020

About that Sen. Feinstein article... The reporter who asked the ?s says article isn't correct.

I think the @latimes has this story backwards. I was the reporter who asked @SenFeinstein these questions. She told me she was initially going to vote against impeachment "before this"

But when I asked her to clarify, she said she's changed her opinion





From the senator:
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About that Sen. Feinstein article... The reporter who asked the ?s says article isn't correct. (Original Post) MelissaB Jan 2020 OP
Thank heavens... K&R so everyone might see hlthe2b Jan 2020 #1
Thank goodness. ElementaryPenguin Jan 2020 #2
Kick and recommend - holy SHIT I didn't need this kind of agita tonight! Dennis Donovan Jan 2020 #3
Thank God, that's a relief. dewsgirl Jan 2020 #4
K&R 2naSalit Jan 2020 #5
It figures. I was just about to post in the other thread, that I would wait for audio confirmation tulipsandroses Jan 2020 #6
Glad she quickly corrected the misinterpretation of her comments calguy Jan 2020 #7
So good to hear. Zoonart Jan 2020 #8
that was quick... stillcool Jan 2020 #9
THANK GOD!!!!! bluestarone Jan 2020 #10
Thank you. My sister lost her mind when she heard that story. Mike 03 Jan 2020 #11
The "this" being Bolton?? And she was gonna acquit before this??? Roland99 Jan 2020 #12
I think she cleared it up SilasSouleII Jan 2020 #22
"Before" what, now? coti Jan 2020 #30
Long way to 67 SilasSouleII Jan 2020 #36
She said that it's ok to leave the guy in for an election, when he's trying to cheat and steal the coti Jan 2020 #39
right. She's a career politician. she should know better. wtaf? Kurt V. Jan 2020 #27
Acquittal takes Trump off the hook bucolic_frolic Jan 2020 #13
So I contacted all three reporters and the first, Eli Stokols replied question everything Jan 2020 #14
Just doesn't pay to be a do-nothing mealy-mouthed Senator these days. nt coti Jan 2020 #15
I'm glad that's cleared up, but why was she going to vote against impeachment before she heard CrispyQ Jan 2020 #16
She didn't say that either. She said she was going to keep an open mind. pnwmom Jan 2020 #31
+1 SilasSouleII Jan 2020 #35
Wow that was fast. Wellstone ruled Jan 2020 #17
K&R Mersky Jan 2020 #18
K & R justhanginon Jan 2020 #19
I did have a question though. If she was initially against impeachment before the Senate trial, alwaysinasnit Jan 2020 #20
Because she wasn't initially against it. She was initially neutral. Now she's seen the evidence pnwmom Jan 2020 #32
I guess my confusion arose from this posting. alwaysinasnit Jan 2020 #34
Her initial statement was also misinterpreted by some as being against impeachment. pnwmom Jan 2020 #37
That's...nothing. coti Jan 2020 #40
I did not jump to condemn her. sheshe2 Jan 2020 #21
+++ still_one Jan 2020 #26
Others of us have been paying attention for 3+ years. coti Jan 2020 #41
Knowing his character... sheshe2 Jan 2020 #42
His character has been completely impeachable this entire time. He has never been fit for the coti Jan 2020 #43
Really? sheshe2 Jan 2020 #44
Yes, really. Impeachment is a political process. A crime is not even necessitated coti Jan 2020 #45
Thank you so much for posting this. So many Duers were losing their minds over the other OP. scarletwoman Jan 2020 #23
Vote against/for removal, not impeachment. He's already been impeached. Iggo Jan 2020 #24
The Dude abides griloco Jan 2020 #25
That sounds more reasonable. Butterflylady Jan 2020 #28
OK, now that makes more sense. Quite a few Dems were reluctant to impeach until the Nitram Jan 2020 #29
I will not trip-wire condemn Dianne Feinstein over this. NBachers Jan 2020 #33
The original tweet tosh Jan 2020 #38
So according to the reporter, Feinstein had originally told her hughee99 Jan 2020 #46

tulipsandroses

(5,127 posts)
6. It figures. I was just about to post in the other thread, that I would wait for audio confirmation
Tue Jan 28, 2020, 06:50 PM
Jan 2020

Not the first time, someone's words were reported completely out of context. I'd rather wait to hear audio in cases like this.

calguy

(5,330 posts)
7. Glad she quickly corrected the misinterpretation of her comments
Tue Jan 28, 2020, 06:51 PM
Jan 2020

Faithful DU'ers were going bonkers. And rightfully so, if she had said what they thought she said. I'm glad she didn't.

SilasSouleII

(363 posts)
22. I think she cleared it up
Tue Jan 28, 2020, 07:11 PM
Jan 2020

She meant to say before this she would keep an open mind. Like the oath to do impartial justice. She's my moms age so I can understand the word mixup and knowing what she meant.

coti

(4,612 posts)
30. "Before" what, now?
Tue Jan 28, 2020, 08:04 PM
Jan 2020

What exactly is cleared up?

She said the election is in nine months and this is something to be left to the voters, and that's still what she thinks.

SilasSouleII

(363 posts)
36. Long way to 67
Tue Jan 28, 2020, 08:51 PM
Jan 2020

And it isn't going to happen, let's be real. So yes the voters will decide in November. That said, the longer we can stretch the Senate trial with witnesses and keep all the R's under pressure for their support of the corrupt administration, the more that will help elect Democrats all the way down the line to local elections. We need big numbers in November, actually historic numbers that will be indisputable. A small margin victory for a D POTUS has me worried that the election will be disputed and quite possibly head to the SCOTUS to be declared invalid.

coti

(4,612 posts)
39. She said that it's ok to leave the guy in for an election, when he's trying to cheat and steal the
Tue Jan 28, 2020, 09:36 PM
Jan 2020

election.

bucolic_frolic

(43,307 posts)
13. Acquittal takes Trump off the hook
Tue Jan 28, 2020, 07:02 PM
Jan 2020

Conviction might let a few GOP Senators off the hook. And give us Pence.

Yeah, Trump should be removed, but there are pros and cons with everything. No perfect choice.

question everything

(47,537 posts)
14. So I contacted all three reporters and the first, Eli Stokols replied
Tue Jan 28, 2020, 07:02 PM
Jan 2020

We're aware, working to update the story. Thank you

CrispyQ

(36,526 posts)
16. I'm glad that's cleared up, but why was she going to vote against impeachment before she heard
Tue Jan 28, 2020, 07:04 PM
Jan 2020

everything?

pnwmom

(108,995 posts)
31. She didn't say that either. She said she was going to keep an open mind.
Tue Jan 28, 2020, 08:09 PM
Jan 2020

That is, not prejudge the case before she saw the evidence -- which is what a juror is supposed to do.

alwaysinasnit

(5,075 posts)
20. I did have a question though. If she was initially against impeachment before the Senate trial,
Tue Jan 28, 2020, 07:06 PM
Jan 2020

and there was no new evidence nor testimony introduced in the Senate trial, what made her change her mind?

pnwmom

(108,995 posts)
32. Because she wasn't initially against it. She was initially neutral. Now she's seen the evidence
Tue Jan 28, 2020, 08:10 PM
Jan 2020

and she has taken a stand.

alwaysinasnit

(5,075 posts)
34. I guess my confusion arose from this posting.
Tue Jan 28, 2020, 08:32 PM
Jan 2020
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100212921776

"I think the @latimes has this story backwards. I was the reporter who asked @SenFeinstein these questions. She told me she was initially going to vote against impeachment "before this"

But when I asked her to clarify, she said she's changed her opinion https://www.latimes.com/politics/story/2020-01-28/trump-team-wraps-impeachment-defense-with-an-elephant-in-the-senate-john-bolton …"

(Bold emphasis is mine.)

pnwmom

(108,995 posts)
37. Her initial statement was also misinterpreted by some as being against impeachment.
Tue Jan 28, 2020, 08:54 PM
Jan 2020

And it clearly wasn't.

She had never publicly said she was going to vote against impeachment. But perhaps she had previously thought she might end up voting against it.

https://www.feinstein.senate.gov/public/index.cfm/press-releases?id=F3158B5F-1F94-47C4-B020-BA723153481F

Dec 18 2019

Washington—Senate Judiciary Committee Ranking Member Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif.) released the following statement on today’s House impeachment vote:

“By approving two articles of impeachment, the House of Representatives has moved this process to the Senate for trial.

“I served in the Senate during the Clinton presidency, and his impeachment was a very sobering experience. Only three times in our country’s history has a president been impeached, and the weight of history falls heavily on these decisions.

“When the trial begins, each of us will swear an oath to ‘do impartial justice according to the Constitution and laws.’ To me, that means objectively reviewing the information presented and making an informed judgment. That’s why it’s so important that the facts are laid out before the Senate.

“The Constitution and the people of America expect and deserve an impartial but informed jury.”


coti

(4,612 posts)
40. That's...nothing.
Tue Jan 28, 2020, 09:41 PM
Jan 2020

And I honestly have no idea why people are going out of their way to defend Feinstein. She's been this awful for decades. We shouldn't have to put up with the wishy-washy nonsense, either, from a California senator- it should be perfectly clear with every word she says that Trump needs to be impeached. We shouldn't be having to make excuses for her.

sheshe2

(83,925 posts)
21. I did not jump to condemn her.
Tue Jan 28, 2020, 07:10 PM
Jan 2020

I researched.

Funny, she is actually paying attention and listening to the evidence.

Thank you Diane and thank you Melissa for posting this.

coti

(4,612 posts)
41. Others of us have been paying attention for 3+ years.
Tue Jan 28, 2020, 09:42 PM
Jan 2020

She seems to be saying that she's just now learning of Trump's character. Wow.

sheshe2

(83,925 posts)
42. Knowing his character...
Tue Jan 28, 2020, 09:51 PM
Jan 2020

Knowing his character and hearing cold hard facts, from reliable witnesses are two different things, things that she had not been privy to are separate issues. You want to condemn her, go for it.

You and I have know his character and that in of itself was never impeachable. His crimes, that none of us knew about until now are.

coti

(4,612 posts)
43. His character has been completely impeachable this entire time. He has never been fit for the
Tue Jan 28, 2020, 09:56 PM
Jan 2020

presidency. Because his character is that of a criminal- which is why he keeps committing crimes.

sheshe2

(83,925 posts)
44. Really?
Tue Jan 28, 2020, 10:10 PM
Jan 2020

He is a piece of filth and a criminal. That does not near impeachable standards per our Constitution which all needs to be documented and proven..

Democrats are working with the rule of law and presenting facts.

coti

(4,612 posts)
45. Yes, really. Impeachment is a political process. A crime is not even necessitated
Wed Jan 29, 2020, 03:09 AM
Jan 2020

(not that there is any shortage of those on Trump's part).

scarletwoman

(31,893 posts)
23. Thank you so much for posting this. So many Duers were losing their minds over the other OP.
Tue Jan 28, 2020, 07:26 PM
Jan 2020

And too many didn't notice the corrections that were posted in that thread.

Nitram

(22,890 posts)
29. OK, now that makes more sense. Quite a few Dems were reluctant to impeach until the
Tue Jan 28, 2020, 07:42 PM
Jan 2020

smoking gun appeared.

tosh

(4,424 posts)
38. The original tweet
Tue Jan 28, 2020, 09:17 PM
Jan 2020

was already getting poo-poo’d when I tuned in, discredited by a few people I trust. It is great to hear the truth from these direct sources. Thanks for posting this, Melissa !

hughee99

(16,113 posts)
46. So according to the reporter, Feinstein had originally told her
Wed Jan 29, 2020, 12:01 PM
Jan 2020

She had already made a decision to vote against impeachment before she had all the information?

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