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Miles Archer

(18,837 posts)
Mon Feb 3, 2020, 08:17 PM Feb 2020

More Murkowski: Trump's name "is on ballots that have already been cast"



As Sen. Lisa Murkowski (R-AK) laid out her long-winded explanation of why she would not vote to convict President Donald Trump in the impeachment trial, she offered this as one of her rationales:

“Removal from office … is the political death penalty. The president’s name is on ballots that have already been cast. The voters will pronounce a verdict in 9 months and we must trust their judgment.”

The problem is that this is false. Nobody has yet voted for Trump on a single ballot. He hasn’t even been officially renominated yet as the GOP candidate for president, and no primary or caucus has yet been called to secure him that nomination.

https://www.rawstory.com/2020/02/lisa-murkowski-falsely-claims-people-have-already-cast-ballots-for-the-2020-election-while-justifying-her-trump-acquittal-vote/
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More Murkowski: Trump's name "is on ballots that have already been cast" (Original Post) Miles Archer Feb 2020 OP
So if he drops dead or kills someone on 5th Avenue malaise Feb 2020 #1
Donald Jr. will fill his spot if he croaks. nt zackymilly Feb 2020 #18
Only in Russia. SharonClark Feb 2020 #2
What? MontanaMama Feb 2020 #3
Got me. . .. Iliyah Feb 2020 #12
Huh? Any area that has already printed ballots is ignorant in action. Frustratedlady Feb 2020 #4
So? Even if it wasn't false. So? Caliman73 Feb 2020 #5
"Sorry you have to marry a man ... NanceGreggs Feb 2020 #6
It will be interesting to see who hires her after she is voted out of office. Or who hires Tech Feb 2020 #7
I hope she's VOTED OUT!! bluestarone Feb 2020 #8
Oh, FFS. That's why you have a vice-president ready to leap in. tanyev Feb 2020 #9
Shared this a few times... Miles Archer Feb 2020 #14
Huh. Strange days indeed. tanyev Feb 2020 #16
Not a good photo of Murkowski. strange thing for her to say. riversedge Feb 2020 #10
What the hell is wrong with her? madaboutharry Feb 2020 #11
duh ... it's written in the code of the program they'll use to hack 2020 election dweller Feb 2020 #13
ugh.. woundedkarma Feb 2020 #29
well, they got started in 2000 dweller Feb 2020 #31
Pussy Grabber's name is on WHAT ballot????????? BigDemVoter Feb 2020 #15
The biggest state in the U.S. former9thward Feb 2020 #33
More malarkey is more likt it. Arkansas Granny Feb 2020 #17
What ballot is his name in right now. Lying sack of shit. onecaliberal Feb 2020 #19
California. former9thward Feb 2020 #34
The ballots were mailed today from what the local news said. I haven't received mine. onecaliberal Feb 2020 #39
these people are just so utterly full of shit... NRaleighLiberal Feb 2020 #20
She Looks Scared Shitless In That Photo n/t DallasNE Feb 2020 #21
Who's already voted lisa? spanone Feb 2020 #22
California. former9thward Feb 2020 #35
How does that work....who's the democratic candidate? spanone Feb 2020 #37
Everybody and then some... former9thward Feb 2020 #38
So she's a liar like all the rest of them. Clever by half and dishonest AF. Fuck her. ancianita Feb 2020 #23
California voted stared today. former9thward Feb 2020 #36
Rethug ignorance is reaching new heights. NoMoreRepugs Feb 2020 #24
Primary mail-in ballots went in the mail today in California. Mr.Bill Feb 2020 #25
She's Lindsey Graham in a wig. hot2na Feb 2020 #26
She is more masculine than Lindsey. Meadowoak Feb 2020 #27
Don't you think she meant the Primary? I don't know the rules in all the States, but I positive napi21 Feb 2020 #28
So if you can just keep your crooked shit under wraps until the primary ballots are printed... Gidney N Cloyd Feb 2020 #30
That's a hot one! DownFromTheMountain Feb 2020 #32

Frustratedlady

(16,254 posts)
4. Huh? Any area that has already printed ballots is ignorant in action.
Mon Feb 3, 2020, 08:21 PM
Feb 2020

Let them eat the ballots.

There is no way.

Caliman73

(11,744 posts)
5. So? Even if it wasn't false. So?
Mon Feb 3, 2020, 08:21 PM
Feb 2020

If Biden goes out and kills someone tonight, then it is cool because his name is on ballots and votes have been cast?

What kind of stupid logic is that?

He is dirty. He sold out his country for his own personal gain. He is unfit to be president. End of story.

You either have ethics, morals, and values, or you do not.

NanceGreggs

(27,817 posts)
6. "Sorry you have to marry a man ...
Mon Feb 3, 2020, 08:21 PM
Feb 2020

... who was just convicted as a serial killer - but his name is already on the wedding invitations."

Tech

(1,771 posts)
7. It will be interesting to see who hires her after she is voted out of office. Or who hires
Mon Feb 3, 2020, 08:22 PM
Feb 2020

her family members. Or how she spends her sudden windfall.

tanyev

(42,600 posts)
9. Oh, FFS. That's why you have a vice-president ready to leap in.
Mon Feb 3, 2020, 08:24 PM
Feb 2020

I know why I don’t want Pence to be president, but why the hell don’t Republicans want him to be president?

Miles Archer

(18,837 posts)
14. Shared this a few times...
Mon Feb 3, 2020, 08:36 PM
Feb 2020

...too lazy to look up the link at the moment...

...but the premise of an article that came out a couple of weeks ago is that McConnell pretty much has a promise of free reign as long as Trump is in charge, and he is basically running the country while Trump tweets, eats, plays golf. and has MAGAt rallies.

He wouldn't have the same guarantees with Pence. Pence might want to get involved and have a "say."

That's it in a nutshell. Pence may be an idiot, but he's not as useful of an idiot as the idiot they already have.

dweller

(23,651 posts)
13. duh ... it's written in the code of the program they'll use to hack 2020 election
Mon Feb 3, 2020, 08:33 PM
Feb 2020

worked in 2016 dinnit ?

will just flip, switch or change enough D cast to R cast to pull it out tada !
😡😖

✌🏼

disclaimer: i don't know squat about computer programming other than GIGO

 

woundedkarma

(498 posts)
29. ugh..
Mon Feb 3, 2020, 11:20 PM
Feb 2020

I know enough about programming to know that there's nothing safe about voting machines.

Someone with just a tiny bit of knowledge and access to the machines (assuming they aren't connected to the internet.. if they are then it's far far easier) can do just about anything.

dweller

(23,651 posts)
31. well, they got started in 2000
Mon Feb 3, 2020, 11:30 PM
Feb 2020

so i'm sure it's refined by now with Russia's help
sigh

remember they weren't worried about repercussions with Merrick Garland with the upcoming 2016 elections... the fix was in

and now all they keep saying is it's up to the voters in 2020
(no witnesses, no new evidence, no trial, nyet nyet)
the fix is in 😡

✌🏼

onecaliberal

(32,887 posts)
39. The ballots were mailed today from what the local news said. I haven't received mine.
Tue Feb 4, 2020, 02:28 AM
Feb 2020

Considering they allowed that orange garbage to sabotage anyone else in his party from appearing on that ballot it doesn’t mean anything.

former9thward

(32,066 posts)
38. Everybody and then some...
Mon Feb 3, 2020, 11:51 PM
Feb 2020

Michael Bennet Democratic
Joseph R. Biden Democratic
Michael R. Bloomberg Democratic
Cory Booker Democratic
Mosie Boyd Democratic
Pete Buttigieg Democratic
Julián Castro Democratic
Roque "Rocky" De La Fuente III Democratic
John K. Delaney Democratic
Michael A. Ellinger Democratic
Tulsi Gabbard Democratic
Mark Stewart Greenstein Democratic
Amy Klobuchar Democratic
Deval Patrick Democratic
Bernie Sanders Democratic
Joe Sestak Democratic
Tom Steyer Democratic
Elizabeth Warren Democratic
Marianne Williamson Democratic
Andrew Yang Democratic

Early voting started today.

Mr.Bill

(24,317 posts)
25. Primary mail-in ballots went in the mail today in California.
Mon Feb 3, 2020, 11:11 PM
Feb 2020

I would assume his name is on those ballots, as well as other states who are voting in primaries before California. It is also past the filing date for the primaries in many states.

Not that I GAF about the republican party, but they would have a hard time figuring how to come up with a candidate for the November election if Trump would be disqualified from running. It would make for an interesting Convention, that's for sure.

napi21

(45,806 posts)
28. Don't you think she meant the Primary? I don't know the rules in all the States, but I positive
Mon Feb 3, 2020, 11:18 PM
Feb 2020

the ballots have been printed in the early primary States and possibly the absentee ballots have been mailed.

Gidney N Cloyd

(19,846 posts)
30. So if you can just keep your crooked shit under wraps until the primary ballots are printed...
Mon Feb 3, 2020, 11:23 PM
Feb 2020

...you'e home free!

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