Iowa Caucus fracas akin to ACA Rollout, does not bode well for Med4all.

[SleeplessinSoCal]

Let alone November 3rd. This is too big to ignore. Will Rogers' ghost haunts us still.

[maxsolomon]

1. Complete overreaction.

The 2 are unrelated.

[SleeplessinSoCal]

4. In both cases computer related errors.

They are comparable enough for me. We need better IT people from the get-go.



Democrats have varying strong opinions. So different from cons. The effort to be more transparent has backfired because of a computer error and extremely complex goals.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

8. One was a very large, complex system that was supposed to collect and process

data relating to millions of people. The Iowa software was supposed to record the ballot counts for a few thousand people in a single state. Hiroshima and the Hindenburg were both explosions. There was a huge difference in cause and magnitude re: both.

[TwilightZone]

10. There is an extensive range of "computer-related" issues.

They're not all the same.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

2. Not really. Not at all, actually.

Some software for an app that was supposed to collect precinct vote tallies crashed. It's nothing like the ACA rollout. Let's not exaggerate this, shall we?

[GoCubsGo]

7. Thank you!

The whole entire episode is being blown out of proportion. The various caucuses have paper back-ups, as well as photographs of the ballots, as I understand it. They can count them by hand. Which is probably what they should have been doing in the first place.

[KY_EnviroGuy]

11. Reading headlines around the web (including global sites), one would think....

the whole damn world is coming to an end. It's as if the English language can't furnish enough words defining extreme disaster.

Meanwhile, results are being posted in Iowa: https://www.desmoinesregister.com/elections/results/primaries/democratic/iowa/?utm_source=oembed&utm_medium=news&utm_campaign=electionresults

Also meanwhile, armed conflicts, global warming and worsening economic inequality trudge along.

I agree with Robert Reich's level-headed responses: https://www.facebook.com/RBReich/videos/162413178516037/

KY..............

[gratuitous]

5. Not sure I follow your logic, here

My understanding is that the system that Iowa Democrats used for the caucuses was a newly-written app that hadn't been tested at all, let alone tested for durability under load. I'm not sure how the contractor for the app was chosen, but it doesn't appear that much was done to review their previous work, or if the contractor had done any previous work.

Yeah, the ACA rollout had some problems in some areas, but it worked pretty good in others. Oregon for some reason had the devil of a time getting a working website, but once they got it figured out, it worked well. Some of the states where the ACA rollout had the most problems were controlled by Republicans, who used every tool at their disposal to monkey-wrench the new system and then carp about it to anyone who would listen (mostly on Fox).

A Medicare-for-All or single payer program will certainly have its problems, but unlike the Iowa caucuses, it will have a much longer period of time to work out the bugs than one day.

Are there prospective problems with November 3? Oh, you betcha. It would appear, though, that Democrats are working very hard all across the country to solve or minimize those problems. There are a lot of Republicans working equally hard to screw up the system, which is a far easier task. I don't know anyone who's ignoring it, though.

[blogslut]

6. wait...what?

[2naSalit]

15. +1

[SleeplessinSoCal]

9. "Strong Opinions". That is part of our problem.

Website glitches or coding errors. Not at all related? Oy....

The website was transferring a complex bill to people via a website. The app was transferring complex vote tallies to people via an app.

If this doesn't rise to the level of "get our shit together", what does?

[milestogo]

12. Huh?

[SharonClark]

13. Wow, that's quite a leap.

The Iowa Caucuses have nothing in common with the ACA roll out.
The Iowa Caucuses are no reflection on Med4All.

[SleeplessinSoCal]

16. they do. computer errors caused by humans.

Sheesh!

[Liberal In Texas]

14. I think ya got yer apples and oranges here.

They have nothing to do with one another.

[GeorgeGist]

17. Too much botshit?

[hatrack]

18. Failure of Teddy Ruxpin reboot does not bode well for Tesla . . .

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