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tinrobot

(10,912 posts)
Sun Feb 9, 2020, 12:37 AM Feb 2020

The United States Customs Is Blocking Car Exports From New York


This week, the Department of Homeland Security has informed vehicle importers and exporters that all exports of New York-titled and registered vehicles will be on hold until further notice.

According to an email sent to vehicle shippers and customs brokers by the Customs and Border Protection agency obtained by Jalopnik, “Effective immediately, all exports of New York titles or New York registrations vehicles will be placed on hold.”

This development comes as the DHS reacts to the implementation of New York’s “Green Light Law,” which allows residents of New York to apply for standard non-commercial drivers’ licenses regardless of citizenship or lawful status in the United States. The law also prohibits New York’s department of motor vehicles from sharing data with federal agencies involved with immigration enforcement.


https://jalopnik.com/the-united-states-customs-is-blocking-car-exports-from-1841529467

First, restricting New Yorkers from Global Entry, now this. More retaliation against New York.
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The United States Customs Is Blocking Car Exports From New York (Original Post) tinrobot Feb 2020 OP
So much for republicans and states' rights. nt Ilsa Feb 2020 #1
They've never believed in that. Crunchy Frog Feb 2020 #6
No kidding AllyCat Feb 2020 #10
I know, but they like spouting it when convenient. nt Ilsa Feb 2020 #23
And anti abortion crap Ohiogal Feb 2020 #31
Property rights too treestar Feb 2020 #24
The BIG Trumpist *federal government* is determined to control women's heealth/reproductive rights. VOX Feb 2020 #32
If they have the right MuseRider Feb 2020 #33
Amen. I stand foursquare with you and all women. VOX Feb 2020 #34
WE must DESTROY HIM COMPLETELY and UTTERLY. nt UniteFightBack Feb 2020 #2
Such bullshit. PoindexterOglethorpe Feb 2020 #3
Ca;ifornia will be next Nictuku Feb 2020 #4
What do you mean, next? shanti Feb 2020 #8
only half. Ms. Toad Feb 2020 #41
Can we just secede already? Crunchy Frog Feb 2020 #5
Thinking about calling Governor Lujan-Grisham's office and advocating that for NM. Seriously triron Feb 2020 #44
Immigration enforcement has no clear connection to auto import/export struggle4progress Feb 2020 #7
The objective is to punish New Yorkers. FuzzyRabbit Feb 2020 #9
That much is obvious. I merely stated the traditional judicial view struggle4progress Feb 2020 #15
CBP Sgent Feb 2020 #21
The connection's in the OP. Igel Feb 2020 #42
Trump is from New York KelleyKramer Feb 2020 #11
Not since last fall. I wondered what ulterior reason he had for changing his residence to Florida. Captain Zero Feb 2020 #28
He can move anywhere he wants, he still came from New York KelleyKramer Feb 2020 #46
GOPers seem to all use the same playbook (i.e. Bridge-gate) groundloop Feb 2020 #12
Isn't this unconstitutional? jmowreader Feb 2020 #13
As the Senate "Trial" showed edhopper Feb 2020 #25
Which means Trump shouldn't be protected by it jmowreader Feb 2020 #40
Not all states have the same drivers license policies tinrobot Feb 2020 #36
Which does create a problem, I would say jmowreader Feb 2020 #39
It's likely the same law. Or regulation. Igel Feb 2020 #43
New York needs to revoke all of the tax abatements they have given him. SeattleVet Feb 2020 #14
He never pays up on anything anyway, wnylib Feb 2020 #16
he moved to Florida, remember?? Last fall changed his legal residence... Captain Zero Feb 2020 #27
Yeah, even here at the opposite side wnylib Feb 2020 #29
True atreides1 Feb 2020 #30
Yet another scary action from the white supremacist Trump administration. n/t PatrickforO Feb 2020 #17
Province of New York. roamer65 Feb 2020 #18
Start seizing federal properties, NY. roamer65 Feb 2020 #19
No worries... AZ8theist Feb 2020 #20
I think that's what he fears the most... llmart Feb 2020 #35
Asswipe KNOWS he's a criminal.... AZ8theist Feb 2020 #47
looks like abuse of power again ... Hermit-The-Prog Feb 2020 #22
would this be why HE changed his legal residence to Florida? hmmmm? Captain Zero Feb 2020 #26
I'm wondering if this is more about New York's investigations of him tinrobot Feb 2020 #37
Letitia James is watching... GoCubsGo Feb 2020 #38
More people that won't vote for him. n/t EndlessWire Feb 2020 #45

VOX

(22,976 posts)
32. The BIG Trumpist *federal government* is determined to control women's heealth/reproductive rights.
Sun Feb 9, 2020, 10:19 AM
Feb 2020

They scream “big gub’mint!” if you even mention common-sense gun laws, but when it comes to women’s health/reproductive rights, they want MASSIVE federal government intrusion and control.

This American Taliban crap has to be stopped. They wield their pick-and-choose “religion” like a deadly weapon.

MuseRider

(34,112 posts)
33. If they have the right
Sun Feb 9, 2020, 10:37 AM
Feb 2020

to own and care for their guns then we have a right to carry and care for our uterus. Damn these fuckers.

It is coming very soon, he is warming up on NYC right now.

VOX

(22,976 posts)
34. Amen. I stand foursquare with you and all women.
Sun Feb 9, 2020, 10:46 AM
Feb 2020

A white male fascist theocracy is what they want. But we un-owned “libs” have their number!

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,873 posts)
3. Such bullshit.
Sun Feb 9, 2020, 12:45 AM
Feb 2020

I live in New Mexico, and this is a state that allows anyone to get a license -- so long as they can pass the tests -- regardless of immigration status. Which, quite frankly, is as it should be. Refusing to license certain categories of people means that those people will drive unlicensed. Yes, they will. And they won't have insurance. We want all drivers, insofar as is possible, to be licensed and insured. There is zero benefit to refusing license some people, and a huge downside in things like the cost of car insurance for the rest of us.

struggle4progress

(118,320 posts)
7. Immigration enforcement has no clear connection to auto import/export
Sun Feb 9, 2020, 12:59 AM
Feb 2020

Government action should be clearly related to actual objective

FuzzyRabbit

(1,969 posts)
9. The objective is to punish New Yorkers.
Sun Feb 9, 2020, 02:25 AM
Feb 2020

Any government action that hurts New Yorkers is thusly justified by the Trumpers.

Sgent

(5,857 posts)
21. CBP
Sun Feb 9, 2020, 06:07 AM
Feb 2020

is in charge of export controls (the few we have).

My guess is if called out they will claim that they cannot verify title information on exported vehicles. Many states issue licenses to non-citizens, but I don't think most restrict CBP access.

Igel

(35,332 posts)
42. The connection's in the OP.
Sun Feb 9, 2020, 03:41 PM
Feb 2020

You want to export a vehicle registered in NYS it means all the documentation with that vehicle is online with the NY DMV. Customs might want to verify a few things about the vehicle--like ownership, perhaps.

There's a new state law that forbids the DMV from sharing this information.

KelleyKramer

(8,980 posts)
46. He can move anywhere he wants, he still came from New York
Sun Feb 9, 2020, 05:16 PM
Feb 2020

I think he changed that about the time Trump had to pay a $2 million fine for stealing from charities.. maybe that had something to do with his change of address, to try to avoid more criminal charges or fines



jmowreader

(50,561 posts)
13. Isn't this unconstitutional?
Sun Feb 9, 2020, 02:58 AM
Feb 2020

You can't have different laws for different states, and this would qualify as a "different law."

jmowreader

(50,561 posts)
40. Which means Trump shouldn't be protected by it
Sun Feb 9, 2020, 02:50 PM
Feb 2020

I can just see it...

“Hey...how come you think you can strip my citizenship and deport me to Russia? The Constitution says an American citizen can’t have his citizenship revoked.”

“So when did the Constitution mean anything to you, asshole?”

tinrobot

(10,912 posts)
36. Not all states have the same drivers license policies
Sun Feb 9, 2020, 12:03 PM
Feb 2020

I think they're using that as the loophole to take revenge... on the state most likely to indict Trump

jmowreader

(50,561 posts)
39. Which does create a problem, I would say
Sun Feb 9, 2020, 02:46 PM
Feb 2020

Because Trump has decided to attack New York, New York is now more motivated than ever to find a legally defensible reason to put him in Sing Sing for the rest of his sorry life.

Igel

(35,332 posts)
43. It's likely the same law. Or regulation.
Sun Feb 9, 2020, 03:50 PM
Feb 2020

But in some states they can check title and ownership and in NYS they can't. If that's the prescribed process for clearing vehicles for export, then it's the same for everybody.

Think about the possibilities--you can export all the vehicles you like under assumed names and ownership, just forge the right documents. There's no way to confirm that the documents are authentic.

Sounds like NYS passed a law to show how just they were but didn't sweat the petty things. Now they get to fix it or just complain that bad people won't pass the vehicles other bad people stole through customs.

They were told in 2016 (yes, 2016) that the law would take affect on schedule in fall 2020 and if they didn't have a good reason for not complying with the requirements they wouldn't get an extension. It's a law passed by every (D) in the Senate and a decent number of (D) Representatives in 2005. However, the NY House delegation voted 19-12, if my count is accurate, against it back in 2005.

SeattleVet

(5,478 posts)
14. New York needs to revoke all of the tax abatements they have given him.
Sun Feb 9, 2020, 03:02 AM
Feb 2020

He's gotten millions in tax relief for his properties and business interests (even given his usual penchant for undervaluing everything for tax purposes, but inflating the value of those same properties when going for loans). New York has a lot of really smart lawyers that could find the loopholes in the city and state's contracts with him and make him pay full fare on all of his NY properties and businesses.

Hit him right back, where it hurts him the worst.

AZ8theist

(5,483 posts)
20. No worries...
Sun Feb 9, 2020, 03:28 AM
Feb 2020

Last edited Mon Feb 10, 2020, 01:36 AM - Edit history (1)

NY will have the last laugh when they lock up the orange asshole for the crimes he committed there. Tick tock, motherfucker...

llmart

(15,546 posts)
35. I think that's what he fears the most...
Sun Feb 9, 2020, 11:38 AM
Feb 2020

which is why he thought moving to Florida was a good idea.

Hey, Donnie, you can run but you can't hide.

Hermit-The-Prog

(33,388 posts)
22. looks like abuse of power again ...
Sun Feb 9, 2020, 06:23 AM
Feb 2020

Article I, Section 9,

No preference shall be given by any regulation of commerce or revenue to the ports of one state over those of another: nor shall vessels bound to, or from, one state, be obliged to enter, clear or pay duties in another.

Captain Zero

(6,821 posts)
26. would this be why HE changed his legal residence to Florida? hmmmm?
Sun Feb 9, 2020, 09:58 AM
Feb 2020

They were planning for this and found out it would have a negative effect on him and his spawn some way or another. My guess.

tinrobot

(10,912 posts)
37. I'm wondering if this is more about New York's investigations of him
Sun Feb 9, 2020, 12:05 PM
Feb 2020

A way to punish them so they'll back off.

GoCubsGo

(32,086 posts)
38. Letitia James is watching...
Sun Feb 9, 2020, 12:46 PM
Feb 2020

And, she is gathering more and more evidence. She is also not under Bill Barr's disease-riddled thumb, either. Better hurry, AG James.

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