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babylonsister

(171,079 posts)
Sun Feb 9, 2020, 03:55 PM Feb 2020

Not Having Health Care 'Incentivizes' People To Be Healthy, Says Fox News Doctor



https://www.wonkette.com/not-having-health-care-incentivizes-people-to-be-healthy-says-fox-news-doctor

Not Having Health Care 'Incentivizes' People To Be Healthy, Says Fox News Doctor
Robyn Pennacchia
February 08, 2020 02:53 PM

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Transcript via Media Matters:

Americans are dying younger, from largely preventable disease and bad health policy decisions. And the problem that I have with this is heart disease alone costs about $230 billion to the United States, and the Affordable Care Act did nothing to help that except take away -- they took away the incentivizations for good behavior choices, by saying that however you act, whatever you do, everything's going to be covered. And so preventable illness is running rampant across the United States.


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The thing is, health care is pretty much the main thing that keeps people from dying of not only preventable diseases, but of the unpreventable ones as well. You can be the biggest health fanatic on earth and you can still get cancer, you can still get MS, you can still get any of the many, many diseases that have absolutely nothing to do with being healthy. People don't get sick because they lack "personal responsibility" and to say so is both cruel and insane.

Not only that, but you can be so good and so responsible and pay your insurance premium every month for your whole life and find that, when you get sick, that whatever it is you have is not covered. And you can then lose your house. Everything is stupid and there pretty much are no rules you can follow to avoid getting totally fucked in this system. "Personal responsibility" is not saving you or protecting you anymore than wearing a corno around your neck is going to prevent me from putting the maloik on you and causing your junk to shrivel up and die.

The thing I'd really like to know though is, if Dr. Saphier thinks that being able to go to the doctor makes people less healthy, then why did she bother going to medical school to become one? Is she some kind of monster? Seeing people and giving them medical advice and treatment when she knows that all that will do is make them less personally responsible?

Doesn't seem right.
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Not Having Health Care 'Incentivizes' People To Be Healthy, Says Fox News Doctor (Original Post) babylonsister Feb 2020 OP
And not having food incentivizes people to go on a diet! Blue Owl Feb 2020 #1
Good analogy! Mad cow Feb 2020 #2
And ... Silver1 Feb 2020 #13
And not having intelligence is an incentive to watch fox news lame54 Feb 2020 #21
And this is NOT The Onion. guillaumeb Feb 2020 #3
EDs across the country beg to differ. ismnotwasm Feb 2020 #4
same christofascist logic applies to welfare, abortion, birth control student loan forgiveness, etc. Thomas Hurt Feb 2020 #5
"Treating sick people will make them less personally responsible." lpbk2713 Feb 2020 #6
Just like the solution to health care crisis is simply get healthy. muntrv Feb 2020 #7
Pull your health up by your bootstraps. That's some Darwinian shit there, doc. n/t Beartracks Feb 2020 #28
Must be a Koch Clinic Wellstone ruled Feb 2020 #8
So I did something wrong or evil with my life and thus was punished by getting MS? Cousin Dupree Feb 2020 #9
Brilliant! Newest Reality Feb 2020 #10
By that logic we should eliminate mzmolly Feb 2020 #11
My Very First Thought ProfessorGAC Feb 2020 #32
Per her bio, Dr. Saphier is a graduate of Ross University Medical School Tanuki Feb 2020 #12
Thanks for that; so she's babylonsister Feb 2020 #19
In other words: QUACK QUACK QUACK DinahMoeHum Feb 2020 #29
Thanks indeed. I figured it was something like this nonsense. Another 'for profit' worthless ... SWBTATTReg Feb 2020 #33
Not having an anus for a brain incentivizes people to be humane Roland99 Feb 2020 #14
Up next! Let's defund schools to make sure our children is learning! We can reduce crime struggle4progress Feb 2020 #15
"Not Having Health Care 'Incentivizes' People To Be Healthy" Silver1 Feb 2020 #16
What's the matter with these stupid fuckers? LuckyCharms Feb 2020 #17
Licensed where? moondust Feb 2020 #18
She supposedly works at a Sloan-Kettering satellite facility, Tanuki Feb 2020 #22
Thx. moondust Feb 2020 #23
according to free-market folks KT2000 Feb 2020 #20
This is insane. area51 Feb 2020 #24
Abolish healthcare then ck4829 Feb 2020 #25
Photo of the Fox News doctor Yavin4 Feb 2020 #26
Hahaha ck4829 Feb 2020 #30
OMFG. And 2+25. n/t Beartracks Feb 2020 #27
Not having money incentivizes work so we should take away billionaires' money unblock Feb 2020 #31
this kind of crap is what has.. stillcool Feb 2020 #34

guillaumeb

(42,641 posts)
3. And this is NOT The Onion.
Sun Feb 9, 2020, 04:04 PM
Feb 2020

Another attempt to rationalize a healthcare system that values profit over patients.

Thomas Hurt

(13,903 posts)
5. same christofascist logic applies to welfare, abortion, birth control student loan forgiveness, etc.
Sun Feb 9, 2020, 04:08 PM
Feb 2020

having gov't healthcare, welfare, abortion, birth control gives the christofascists' lessers a pass when they should be suffering the consequences of their actions. Offends their sense of Randian hyper-individualism when "takers" and "mooches" don't die, go bankrupt, have an unwanted pregnancy or get an STD.

Whackjobs think they are God and get to judge and punish.

Cousin Dupree

(1,866 posts)
9. So I did something wrong or evil with my life and thus was punished by getting MS?
Sun Feb 9, 2020, 04:12 PM
Feb 2020

Thanks doc, I’ve never had my disease explained to me that way. I feel so much better now.

Newest Reality

(12,712 posts)
10. Brilliant!
Sun Feb 9, 2020, 04:14 PM
Feb 2020

Why have science, medicine, health care, SNAP, etc., when you have propaganda instead? So, let's stop funding everything and save all that money. Faux watchers can sit there and believe what they don't need and...problem solved. Maybe they can be talked into not eating food anymore, I don't know, but think of benefits.

Let's remember that Faux brings the truth and never, ever lies, so you can believe their facts and the messages they provide!!!!


ProfessorGAC

(65,112 posts)
32. My Very First Thought
Sun Feb 9, 2020, 07:44 PM
Feb 2020

He and every MD, should retire, then all those 10s of thousands of patients will be incentivized to be healthy.
Of course.
An adjunct: He could treat everyone for free and only treat diseases that are wholly decoupled from behaviors.
I'm sure he'd still be busy, but with a little more time to think before he opens his pie hole again.

Tanuki

(14,920 posts)
12. Per her bio, Dr. Saphier is a graduate of Ross University Medical School
Sun Feb 9, 2020, 04:26 PM
Feb 2020
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ross_University_School_of_Medicine

"Ross University School of Medicine (RUSM) is a private for-profit offshore medical school located in Bridgetown, Barbados. Its main campus is in Barbados, and separate administrative bases are located in Iselin, New Jersey, and Miramar, Florida, in the United States. It is owned by Adtalem Global Education Inc., formerly DeVry Education Group, which purchased it in 2003.
The medical school was founded in 1978 as The University of Dominica School of Medicine by Robert Ross, an entrepreneur.[2][3] At the time, it was housed in leased facilities at The Castaways Hotel, with an inaugural class of 11 students. In 1982, the University of Dominica School of Medicine formally changed its name to Ross University School of Medicine at the request of the government of Dominica.[citation needed]

In 1985, California state medical licensing officials (the Board of Medical Quality Assurance), began investigating RUSM, along with other medical schools located in the Caribbean.[4] The officials released a report stating that RUSM had nearly no admissions standards, and that the school was in the business of providing medical degrees to "everyone that wants one."[4] RUSM agreed to implement a number of changes recommended by the board and has since graduated over 11,000 practicing physicians.[4]

In the late 1990s, RUSM expressed interest in opening a U.S.-based medical school in Casper, Wyoming, but accreditation was denied by the Liaison Committee on Medical Education, the organization that accredits MD-granting medical schools in the United States.[5]Some local individuals welcomed the economic impact of a new medical school on the town, but critics questioned the quality of education at a for-profit institution.[5] In 2003, RUSM was acquired by DeVry Education Group,[6] which has since renamed itself Adtalem Global Education."...(more at link)

babylonsister

(171,079 posts)
19. Thanks for that; so she's
Sun Feb 9, 2020, 04:34 PM
Feb 2020

not even a real doc. Good job, faux

the school was in the business of providing medical degrees to "everyone that wants one."

SWBTATTReg

(22,154 posts)
33. Thanks indeed. I figured it was something like this nonsense. Another 'for profit' worthless ...
Sun Feb 9, 2020, 08:08 PM
Feb 2020

school, e.g., the one run by rump for example. Run by crooks because of the relatively easy money.

Didn't these idiots ever get that some diseases are genetically caused, and have nothing to do w/ environmental reasons?

struggle4progress

(118,320 posts)
15. Up next! Let's defund schools to make sure our children is learning! We can reduce crime
Sun Feb 9, 2020, 04:30 PM
Feb 2020

by downsizing local police forces and abolishing the courts! And eliminating fire departments will encourage people not to burn their houses down!"

Silver1

(721 posts)
16. "Not Having Health Care 'Incentivizes' People To Be Healthy"
Sun Feb 9, 2020, 04:31 PM
Feb 2020

Surely, even FOX viewers can see through that! Right??

moondust

(20,002 posts)
23. Thx.
Sun Feb 9, 2020, 05:35 PM
Feb 2020

Wow.

I suppose there is some kind of profit motive behind her nuttiness, maybe trying to justify denying health care to the poor to "teach them a lesson" and, coincidentally, free up more resources for the rich?

KT2000

(20,585 posts)
20. according to free-market folks
Sun Feb 9, 2020, 04:51 PM
Feb 2020

being able to sell one's organs incentivizes people to live a healthier life so they can get top dollar. There is no bottom to their barrel.

area51

(11,916 posts)
24. This is insane.
Sun Feb 9, 2020, 07:06 PM
Feb 2020

There is no bottom to these fsckers.

So the 45k people dying each year due to lack of healthcare are an illusion?

stillcool

(32,626 posts)
34. this kind of crap is what has..
Sun Feb 9, 2020, 08:13 PM
Feb 2020

added to my suicidal tendencies. Medical care has been an issue for me, for my entire life. As a kid, I had no one to pay for me, and the guilt associated with some relative having to cough money up was shameful. This lady knows what she's doing.

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