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Dennis Donovan

(18,770 posts)
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 06:37 PM Feb 2020

Ken Dilanian: "This is the worst nightmare of many of my sources in the intelligence world,"



David Gura ✔@davidgura

"This is the worst nightmare of many of my sources in the intelligence world," @KenDilanianNBC tells @chucktodd.

The New York Times ✔@nytimes

Russia is aiding President Trump in the 2020 election, intelligence officials told lawmakers. Trump complained Democrats might exploit the news. https://nyti.ms/3bTBtXr


5:32 PM - Feb 20, 2020






David Gura✔@davidgura

At the center of this story, "Russia Backs Trump's Re-election, and He Fears Democrats Will Exploit Its Support" (https://nyti.ms/2uTOgJ7 ), is Shelby Pierson, the Intelligence Community Election Threats Executive.
@NoelKing interviewed her last month:

https://n.pr/3bXifjG .
Election Security Boss: Threats To 2020 Are Now Broader, More Diverse
In an exclusive interview with NPR, election threats executive Shelby Pierson says more nations may attempt more types of interference in the U.S.

5:42 PM - Feb 20, 2020


She was appointed by Coats right before he left. From the NPR article:

Pierson was appointed election threats executive under the Office of the Director of National Intelligence in one of the final acts of then-DNI Dan Coats before he was hustled out of the Trump administration last year.
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Ken Dilanian: "This is the worst nightmare of many of my sources in the intelligence world," (Original Post) Dennis Donovan Feb 2020 OP
Paper ballots at the polls; lawsuits against facebook in the meantime. Hermit-The-Prog Feb 2020 #1
+++ agree on Paper Ballots across the board. nt iluvtennis Feb 2020 #9
vividly recall hanging chads goosing CA to use computerized voting. SleeplessinSoCal Feb 2020 #24
That's poor implementation of a system that can be secure. Hermit-The-Prog Feb 2020 #25
more detail Grasswire2 Feb 2020 #27
Yes! It's insane to go to invisible ballots and hidden counts. Hermit-The-Prog Feb 2020 #30
This message was self-deleted by its author Mruttio Feb 2020 #31
Might EXPLOIT the news? Ilsa Feb 2020 #2
Yep, and what a DUMB story! Republicans were there! They could confirm it was more than Schiff Dennis Donovan Feb 2020 #3
I've seen a suggestion Lindsay Feb 2020 #6
That sounds like something he would do. BigmanPigman Feb 2020 #8
Trump could exploit this worse GusBob Feb 2020 #7
Trump doesn't have the power to cancel the election Fiendish Thingy Feb 2020 #21
Taking a break from Coronavirus, thought I would check in.. dewsgirl Feb 2020 #4
Did you ever in a million years think you'd ever see a headline like that!?!?! ... marble falls Feb 2020 #5
Not with Barr and McConnell running interference Under The Radar Feb 2020 #17
This may explain some of the unsightly online comments JohnBoltonsmustache Feb 2020 #10
Welcome to DU, JohnBoltonsmustache! calimary Feb 2020 #20
eek -- wrong forum. nt Grasswire2 Feb 2020 #28
Is this news? We know that was happening and it was only going to escalate Perseus Feb 2020 #11
They were much broader already in 2016. Read Seth Abramson's 'Proof of Conspiracy'! triron Feb 2020 #12
Election Threats Executive Shelby Pierson ... aggiesal Feb 2020 #13
So trump was angry that Democrats were told about the interference Kablooie Feb 2020 #14
The main moniss Feb 2020 #15
PRIZES To the first Republican to denounce Trump Under The Radar Feb 2020 #16
Other than Romney? RVN VET71 Feb 2020 #19
I'm waiting for Susan Collins to express her concern. llmart Feb 2020 #22
For secrets, Donald and Jared have been very generous in passing them on. keithbvadu2 Feb 2020 #18
The fix is in, then? RVN VET71 Feb 2020 #23
Like Democrats didn't know about Putin's interference, in 2016 and up to the present? DUH. VOX Feb 2020 #26
Goddamn the NYT. Piece of shit. triron Feb 2020 #29
Every cable tv news show should be shoulting it out hourly. riversedge Feb 2020 #32

SleeplessinSoCal

(9,145 posts)
24. vividly recall hanging chads goosing CA to use computerized voting.
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 09:38 PM
Feb 2020

Went to the 2001 convention and used the new technology along with other activists after we lost the electoral college in 2000. That was accomplished in Florida with the aid of a butterfly ballot. After the Iowa caucuses, it's hard to imagine we won't screw up something.

Hermit-The-Prog

(33,430 posts)
25. That's poor implementation of a system that can be secure.
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 09:41 PM
Feb 2020

Electronic voting is inherently unverifiable.

Paper ballots can be verified and secured.

Grasswire2

(13,571 posts)
27. more detail
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 09:52 PM
Feb 2020

1. HAND MARKED VOTER VERIFIABLE PAPER BALLOTS

2. STRONG AUDIT TRAIL

3. STRONG BALLOT SECURITY.

4. NO APPS! NO WiFI CONNECTION FOR TRANSMISSION! NO OPTICAL SCANNING!

States are still buying hackable systems.

Get involved!!

Response to Grasswire2 (Reply #27)

Ilsa

(61,698 posts)
2. Might EXPLOIT the news?
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 06:41 PM
Feb 2020

WTalmightyF?

Trump is pissed that the news was shared at all. He wanted it BURIED. This business about IQ45 thinking it was only to Schiff (or Schumer) vs the whole committee is a made up story to cover the firing of the DNI.

Lindsay

(3,276 posts)
6. I've seen a suggestion
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 06:55 PM
Feb 2020

that Devin Nunes put a bug in Trump's ear that Schiff got personally briefed.

And I certainly wouldn't put it past Nunes.

GusBob

(7,286 posts)
7. Trump could exploit this worse
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 07:04 PM
Feb 2020

He could cancel the election claiming interference

Perhaps thats what the nightmare is

dewsgirl

(14,961 posts)
4. Taking a break from Coronavirus, thought I would check in..
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 06:54 PM
Feb 2020

I think I'm going back to bed now, I would take a walk freezing rain...argh

marble falls

(57,240 posts)
5. Did you ever in a million years think you'd ever see a headline like that!?!?! ...
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 06:55 PM
Feb 2020

My wife and I who were cold warriors and veterans cannot believe this story would ever be in the mainstream press. Its just so conspiracy porn except its happening in real time.

Its almost got a Catch-22 feel about it. Trump is a low IQ version of Milo Minderbinder.

 
10. This may explain some of the unsightly online comments
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 07:29 PM
Feb 2020

attributed to “Bernie Bros.” They could be Russian military or bots impersonating Bernie Supporters. Let’s not be so fast to rush to judgement until we know ALL the facts.

calimary

(81,500 posts)
20. Welcome to DU, JohnBoltonsmustache!
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 09:08 PM
Feb 2020

Hmmmm... could be. But I've gotta say - in 2016, the "Bernie Bros" were in full "flower" here and elsewhere, before Russia was ever known to be involved in election meddling.

It was HORRIBLE. I'm one who was on the receiving end, and my case was nothing compared to the way some here were jumped all over, piled on, attacked repeatedly and relentlessly, and driven off this site. I got run off, too. And it WAS the Bernie people. There was a pack of 'em here. They were very vocal about it, about their ardor for Bernie, their hatred of people who wouldn't join them (the nerve of us for finding him not worthy of our support!) and there was no mistaking their position. They were quite out and proud about it. They overran DU and pretty much took over, alienating and driving away anyone who wasn't an all-out Bernie worshipper.

 

Perseus

(4,341 posts)
11. Is this news? We know that was happening and it was only going to escalate
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 07:33 PM
Feb 2020

The one thing this does is to make it official.

Democrats have to start throwing a meme "If you vote for trump you vote for Putin" or something like that.

triron

(22,020 posts)
12. They were much broader already in 2016. Read Seth Abramson's 'Proof of Conspiracy'!
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 07:36 PM
Feb 2020

Media is 100 years behind as usual.

aggiesal

(8,924 posts)
13. Election Threats Executive Shelby Pierson ...
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 07:56 PM
Feb 2020

will be next person fired because of this NPR interview.

Is an Executive under the Office of the Director of National Intelligence.

Kablooie

(18,641 posts)
14. So trump was angry that Democrats were told about the interference
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 08:27 PM
Feb 2020

Of course. If everyone knows about it, it could interfere with it’s effectiveness.

moniss

(4,274 posts)
15. The main
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 08:36 PM
Feb 2020

reason that this current proposed guy to head all of the intel agencies is mainly so that he will tell the Orange Ruski in real time anything the agencies are finding out about the meddling so that he and Jared can relay that back to Putin immediately.

RVN VET71

(2,698 posts)
19. Other than Romney?
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 08:55 PM
Feb 2020

Actually, that might be better: prize to the SECOND Republican, then the THIRD, etc.

But I don't see a trend forming anywhere in the GOP to denounce Trump. To denounce a sitting President, one of your own Party, would take both spine and moral courage, neither of which can be found anywhere in the GOP Senate or House. Romney is the exception that proves the rule.

All the rest of them, all of them, are slavish little nothings who have set about ruining the promise that was America. May they not die, any of them, until they have witnessed history's accurate portrayal of them as teeny, tiny, unprincipled little cowards -- and, yes, I'm talking about you Mitch, and you Lindsey, and you Devin, all of you.

llmart

(15,553 posts)
22. I'm waiting for Susan Collins to express her concern.
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 09:29 PM
Feb 2020

I'm also waiting for the moment the Dump "learns his lesson".


Still waiting...........

keithbvadu2

(36,917 posts)
18. For secrets, Donald and Jared have been very generous in passing them on.
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 08:49 PM
Feb 2020

For secrets, Donald and Jared have been very generous in passing them on.

Jared considers a security clearance to be a vendor's license.

RVN VET71

(2,698 posts)
23. The fix is in, then?
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 09:34 PM
Feb 2020

Trump is, apparently, concerned that Maguire's revelations might impede Russian interference. Sure, he's also ticked off that he heard from the shadows that Maguire had briefed Schiff in private and, because he's an infantile narcissist, felt compelled to fire Maguire on that count alone. But the underlying crime of Maguire and American Intelligence here is that Maguire's unearthing of Russia's activities will impede Putin's efforts to fix the election for Trump.

And now, as someone here has suggested, Trump will either win (which he will claim as the greatest victory in the history of victories) or, losing, claim that the election process was actually rigged against him. Barr will back him either way as will every serving GOP craven little weasel in the House and Senate, and the Roberts Court: Roberts, Kavanaugh, Gorsuch, Thomas, and Alito, of course, hate Trump for the illiterate nincompoop he is, but they know that Ruth Ginsberg's spot on the Court will be vacant should she retire or die -- and they definitely want another conservative-fascist to join with them because there are just so many rights to wrong and so many freedoms to provide to money, big money, and bigger money. So if the Dem's squeak by in the presidential election and Trump calls foul and rejects the results, I am not at all sure that virtually all GOP politicians and the Roberts' Court would not endorse his decision.

VOX

(22,976 posts)
26. Like Democrats didn't know about Putin's interference, in 2016 and up to the present? DUH.
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 09:47 PM
Feb 2020

Seriously, this has been a major issue for three-plus years now. Russian trolls have been racking up retweets of 45’s Twitter brain-droppings all this time. 99% of the garbage on Facebook is generated from Russia. They continue to interfere on various progressive/Democratic websites as well. And who knows how far they got into our actual vote counting, and will do so again?

I smell a “useful idiot” rat, and his initials are DJT.

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