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Coronavirus 1,000 times more infectious than SARS...! (Original Post) pbmus Feb 2020 OP
Has it even come close, yet, to killing as many people as flu does every year? Jamastiene Feb 2020 #1
So we should wait until it kills as many as the flu Ms. Toad Feb 2020 #5
I never said that. Jamastiene Feb 2020 #7
+1 dewsgirl Feb 2020 #11
The current fatality rate is many times that of the flu berni_mccoy Feb 2020 #6
Not according to the article sarisataka Feb 2020 #10
Their math is wrong berni_mccoy Feb 2020 #14
Could this be why some "recovered" people become re-infected? Mike 03 Feb 2020 #2
Be careful of hype like this... Wounded Bear Feb 2020 #3
"Could". Or it might not Roland99 Feb 2020 #4
It is already been declared more lethal than SARS berni_mccoy Feb 2020 #8
Lethality too-- 5 of the cruise liners passengers have died: dawg day Feb 2020 #9
That rate is about 1/10th sarisataka Feb 2020 #12
I guess I will go home and hang myself sarisataka Feb 2020 #13
"could be" TwilightZone Feb 2020 #15

Ms. Toad

(34,075 posts)
5. So we should wait until it kills as many as the flu
Fri Feb 28, 2020, 04:24 PM
Feb 2020

before we recognize a situation as dangerous?

The virus went from non-existent to killing 2900 in less than 3 months. It surpassed the SARS 2-year death total (the last equivalent newly emerging virus) in not much more than a moth.

Jamastiene

(38,187 posts)
7. I never said that.
Fri Feb 28, 2020, 04:27 PM
Feb 2020

Reasonable precautions can be taken without panicking. Panicking will not stop the spread. People really are panicking. Be reasonable about it is the point.

 

berni_mccoy

(23,018 posts)
6. The current fatality rate is many times that of the flu
Fri Feb 28, 2020, 04:27 PM
Feb 2020

Total deaths aren’t there yet but it’s tracking with the lethality of SARS.

sarisataka

(18,663 posts)
10. Not according to the article
Fri Feb 28, 2020, 04:37 PM
Feb 2020

SARS death rate was over 9%, Coronavirus is put at about 2-3% but the cruise ship total is less than 1%.

Mike 03

(16,616 posts)
2. Could this be why some "recovered" people become re-infected?
Fri Feb 28, 2020, 04:14 PM
Feb 2020
The coronavirus could be up to 1,000 times more infectious than SARS because it plagues the body in the same way as HIV and Ebola, scientists warn.

Experts initially presumed the spread of COVID-19 would follow the same trajectory as the SARS outbreak in 2002/3, because the viruses are almost identical genetically.

But they have discovered the way it binds to cells in the human body is akin to far more aggressive diseases like HIV and Ebola.

This makes it '100 to 1,000 times' more efficient at infecting people than SARS, according to researchers from Nankai University in Tianjin, northern China.


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Nankai University researchers looked at the genome sequence of COVID-19 and found a section of mutated genes that did not exist in SARS.

Instead the coronavirus has 'cleavage sites' similar to those in HIV and Ebola, which carry viral proteins that are dormant and have to be 'cut' to be activated.


HIV and Ebola target an enzyme called furin, which is responsible for cutting and activating these proteins when they enter the body.

The viruses trick furin so it activates them and causes a 'direct fusion' between the virus and the human cells. COVID-19 binds to cells in a similar way, the scientists found.


It seems like they are hitting it with antiviral agents but not actually killing it. Is it hiding and re-emerges? Or does it mutate to get stronger as a result of the treatment?

dawg day

(7,947 posts)
9. Lethality too-- 5 of the cruise liners passengers have died:
Fri Feb 28, 2020, 04:28 PM
Feb 2020

At least 5 Diamond Princess passengers have died- out of about 700 infected. So that's, what? getting close to a 1% death rate.

sarisataka

(18,663 posts)
13. I guess I will go home and hang myself
Fri Feb 28, 2020, 04:45 PM
Feb 2020

And just get it over with...

Oh wait, the words 'could be' were dropped from the headline. Maybe I won't panic just yet.

TwilightZone

(25,471 posts)
15. "could be"
Fri Feb 28, 2020, 04:52 PM
Feb 2020

Yes, that's been happening with a lot of threads on this topic. Context and accuracy are apparently lost arts. A story on the college student confirmed to have it was turned into something like "virus invades college campuses".

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