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(9,446 posts)dewsgirl
(14,961 posts)trueblue2007
(17,228 posts)captain queeg
(10,208 posts)Im in my 60s and decent health but talking to a couple people in their 70-80s they are scared.
Demovictory9
(32,457 posts)marlakay
(11,476 posts)My 92 yr old mom went to the doctor yesterday by way of shuttle from senior apt home, she has a cough from allergies and doctor said she should wear a mask. Did anyone help her or give her one? No, they just gave her dirty looks in the doctor office. I had no idea she even had cough until she told me story. I live out of state from her and send her supplies through Amazon and Instacart.
I wish more people would see how this affects the elderly especially those with family far away.
Dem2
(8,168 posts)defacto7
(13,485 posts)in a store parking lot to see if others have the same concern. I can be pretty well protected where some older folks can't.
brush
(53,788 posts)grantcart
(53,061 posts)Many elderly don't use the internet
subana
(586 posts)some stores also accept orders over the phone.
grantcart
(53,061 posts)Use email
Polybius
(15,433 posts)She can't get off her laptop. When she does, it's iPad time. Her mom (my Nannie) passed away three years ago at 91. Even she used a computer to shop. Everyone should learn to use a computer and get with the times, they've been popular since the Apple II, and the internet since the mid-90's.
Rebl2
(13,523 posts)and dont have elderly parents
progressoid
(49,991 posts)jimfields33
(15,823 posts)To give a stranger 100 dollars through the window. I cant Imagine this is a true story. This proves that elderly are too trusting.
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)Is logic your fifth or sixth language?
(let's not pretend we know the elderly couples' financial status... doing so lacks any and all objectivity, and merely reflects our own lack of credibility and our very colorful biases-- much as conflating 'proof' and 'evidence' does too)
jimfields33
(15,823 posts)Did they lower the window two inches and stuck the money through? Did they give a name either side? Id? What if the hundred was counterfeit? Nobody does this. So many questions left to pass the smell test.
Aquaria
(1,076 posts)Many grocery stores have always taken phone orders, for the same fee as the online orders charge now. I know our local chain (H-E-B) has always done that, because my husband works for them and told me about his regulars who got either delivery or items selected by store workers and picked up, long before the online system existed. Many of these customers were the elderly or those who were too sick to shop for themselves.
So its worth a phone call for people to see if the local grocer can accommodate them that way.
Celerity
(43,413 posts)snowybirdie
(5,229 posts)at 7am when it opens. Few customers. Check out ourselves, as well. Very quick.
LuvNewcastle
(16,846 posts)I broke my ankle back in August and I've really had a time trying to get it to heal right. I've been ordering my groceries online with Walmart. All I have to do is drive down there and park in one of their reserved spots and they bring my groceries out and put them in the car for me. There's no charge for it and they don't allow people to tip the workers who come out to the car. You can't do it on the spur of the moment, but if you need to do some regular household shopping, all you have to do is make a list and sit down at the computer. You have to get at least $30 worth of stuff, though, but that's nothing. I think they've started making deliveries, too.
SunSeeker
(51,572 posts)Cognitive_Resonance
(1,546 posts)Harker
(14,024 posts)How we treat the most vulnerable among us, both children and elderly, will in some ways define us - individually and collectively.
misanthrope
(7,418 posts)While there are good-hearted Americans doing good things, as a whole the nation's culture is built around predatory economics and vilification of the less fortunate.
Harker
(14,024 posts)but sometimes a ray of hope penetrates the murk.
And I try to remember that an act of kindness can improve a life. Or maybe only a day.
Not much I can do about the bigger picture, other than try to help others on a personal level.
So, I'll do what I can.
blueinredohio
(6,797 posts)When I help someone out and they thank me I tell them that's the way us liberals are.
subana
(586 posts)I'm 70 & I can certainly sympathize with her! I don't go to grocery stores though. I don't have a car so I haven't been to a store in a long time & that's before fears over the virus came to light. I have a service that makes deliveries for me. Of course it's possible that the delivery person might have the virus but by being exposed to only 1 person, I think reduces the chances of picking up the virus.
That was very nice of you to help them & I'm sure they were very grateful for your help!
wnylib
(21,487 posts)about being exposed to only one person. It's still risky, but tge more expisure someone has, the more the virus can multiply in your system. The young doctors and staff in China who died were exposed multiple times, building up more of the virus in their bodies than their immune systems were able to cope with.
Also, with one possible exposure, you can wash your hands vigorously afterward. Or, as I do, wipe down your hands and any surfaces that were touched with sanitary wipes, or spray with Lysol. That's what I do. When I do have to go out, I carry wipes and a bottle of hand sanitizer with me. I wipe down surfaces, e.g. cart handles. Also use a tissue to push open door, press elevator buttons, etc.
But I only go out now when necessary.
subana
(586 posts)I'm not usually around a lot of people so I figure I have a little less risk than people with families & those who attend work or school.
Good ideas to use wipes & lysol. Awhile back Amazon sent me some wipes by mistake (ones that are usually used on babies). I kept them & usually use them to clean up spills but they're also good to use in this situation too.
wnylib
(21,487 posts)labelled to kill 99% of bacteria AND viruses, made by Lysol or Chlorox. Bought up several containers of them recently and keep some in a zipped up plastic lunch bag in my purse.
Also, I live in a 6 story apt building, so I wipe or spray the elevator buttons inside and outside the elevator. Any surface that gets multiple use and requires me to touch it.
Hardest part is remembering not to touch my face unless I have just washed or sani-wiped my hands.
subana
(586 posts)I live in an 11 story apt building. I've never even thought of using a wipe on elevator buttons but it's a great idea!! My building has a lot of security, people can't get upstairs unless they live here or a resident helps them get upstairs. But anyone could still be a carrier of the virus. It's less likely but not impossible.
wnylib
(21,487 posts)and items that get tiuched often by many people wherever I am and assume it could have a virus on it. The virus is no longer live after a.period of time on inanimate objects, but I don't know how many hours that is, or when someone last touched a surface. So I err on the side of caution and don't give a damn if people who see me doing this think I am nuts. My life and safety are more important to me than someone's opinion.
subana
(586 posts)that's a good thing to keep in mind, that any surface could contain the virus.
wnylib
(21,487 posts)Sometimes you feel like a nut.
Sometimes you just don't care.
barbtries
(28,799 posts)if this was a well-managed crisis, their needs would be getting met, but absent that, thankful for their smart decision and her generous willingness to help them.
he's so much worse than even i imagined. as for republicans, well there just are not enough words to express how bad they are.
misanthrope
(7,418 posts)"That's what faith-based charities are for" to divorce themselves from responsibility, conscientiousness or guilt.
Nature Man
(869 posts)calimary
(81,322 posts)lpbk2713
(42,759 posts)I am 76 yo and have a cardiac history. I used one of the store's wipes when I entered the store and used one of my Lysol wipes when I got in my car. This is Central Florida. The nearest confirmed case is about forty miles away so far. But I know it will get worse before it gets better. I'm limiting what I do and where I go when I leave home. No going out to eat and no take-out until it looks safe. I can only hope my luck holds out.
Only thing I noticed at Publix that was out of the ordinary ... the bleach shelves were empty.
Stevegberg
(80 posts)duforsure
(11,885 posts)And so sad things have come to this. I would have helped them also even though with my health and age I'm in the danger zone too. We all need to help others when we can , and be considerate of those without the means to stock up goods just in case.
Initech
(100,081 posts)Maru Kitteh
(28,341 posts)accounts I have read of how people became numb, resigned, and even oblivious to the spectre of death and suffering during the plague. I was wondering if I will be capable of coping with what almost certainly lies ahead. It doesn't feel like it.
You're not alone.
TalenaGor
(1,104 posts)My mom and grandma did that for years.....
NNadir
(33,525 posts)Harker
(14,024 posts)tetedur
(820 posts)where you make a list they gather the items and you can pick up your order on the curb.
matt819
(10,749 posts)but that kind of fear is also a sickness. I don't have a response to it, but it's just awful.
BTW, anyone know where this happened?
Harker
(14,024 posts)If a grown-up were in charge, these poor people might feel differently.
Louis1895
(768 posts)They are probably in their late 70s. The husband is in the early-mid phase of Alzheimers and it occurred to me they might appreciate some offers of shopping, etc. In fact, I do not see this couple often. The last time I saw them was in our local grocery store. I could see it was a challenge for the wife to do the shopping and also keep tabs on her husband.
We all need to see how we can reach out to others and lend a helping hand.
samplegirl
(11,480 posts)God bless!
KY_EnviroGuy
(14,492 posts)This was in Bend, Oregon which is fairly remote and where their county just revealed its first case......
MLAA
(17,298 posts)Doreen
(11,686 posts)I am in tears.
sop
(10,193 posts)worried about in-store infection. They would simply give their lists to a store employee who would do what you did. This service should be available to everyone, not just elderly customers who often are unable to navigate the confusing (to them) on-line ordering systems.
yellowdogintexas
(22,264 posts)for over a year. Special parking places, phone in or order online.
It not only benefits the elderly; those who can't walk far, or otherwise qualify for handicapped status on their car etc. also benefit.
I have never felt the need to use it, but Safeway, HEB, Central Market, Kroger have this service. Possibly Target and even Wal Mart but I am not sure.
flying-skeleton
(697 posts)I teared up reading this.
Thank you for helping this elderly couple.
dchill
(38,505 posts)...to ask.
hamsterjill
(15,222 posts)Kindness like this renews my faith in humanity. That could have been any one of us in that car - whether from age or condition. You did a good thing.
NoMoreRepugs
(9,435 posts)redstateblues
(10,565 posts)redstatebluegirl
(12,265 posts)I wrote notes and left them on their doors that we would help in any way we could. I told the lady across the street I was going to the drug store and asked if she needed anything. We need to take care of each other right now, regardless of who they support.
McKim
(2,412 posts)We are 74 and 82 and we decided to isolate as of last Saturday. We go to the store only once every three weeks and we wear a double cloth mask and rubber gloves in the store. All groceries are wiped down with water, bleach and dried in the sun. All veggies and fruits are cooked. Every day we wipe all the door knobs, light switches, surfaces with bleach cleaner, even the interior and handles of the car. We ordered a set of Civilization DVDs and have access to quality films. We visit with friends and family on FaceTime. I have already been sick for 6 moths with 2 viruses this year. When I finally got well I planned to go to Spain, take flamenco singing lessons, Goya film,
Spanish class at our local university and tickets for many wonderful events. All cancelled. Now I am living at home with the love of my life and treasure every day with him, praying that we live.
deurbano
(2,895 posts)usually I can order the day before and get it the next day, but when I ordered yesterday, they were booked up for almost a week... and no toilet paper!
I live in San Francisco and my daughter's high school reopened yesterday after being closed for almost a week because a student's parent had tested positive. After the student was tested and the result was negative, they reopened the school, and I reluctantly let my daughter attend yesterday. After reading about Italy and medical care rationing and warnings from doctors in Italy, today I decided to keep her home for the foreseeable future. We (my family) are going to try to help "flatten the curve" at least. We are in a known virus hot spot, even with little actual testing, and this is coming at us very fast, so I have quickly (maybe not quickly enough, though) come to the perspective that we need to shut down whatever we can and stay home to the extent that we can. In SF, the schools aren't open because that is "best practices" for this virus, but because there are "essential services" schools provide that some students need (like free breakfast and lunch and wellness centers), and because many parents will not be able to secure childcare for children who need it. But that's not about limiting the spread of the virus, and we need solutions for those problems while still limiting community spread. I think they should encourage parents who CAN keep their kids home to do so (and let them learn remotely), and allow teachers/staff who are vulnerable due to age or preexisting condition to work from home, and then the kids and teachers/staff still at school will be less at risk, too.
Bayard
(22,100 posts)For the elderly, free check-ins, grocery and drug store delivery.
kimbutgar
(21,163 posts)I just saw on my local next door app they are asking people to sign up to shop for elderly people.
DesertRat
(27,995 posts)That could have been my parents if we didn't live in the same city. Bless her for helping them. We're all in this together.
UpInArms
(51,284 posts)I am so sorry that our world is so broken