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Lithos

(26,403 posts)
2. Would think the better claim is population and resource consumption growth
Thu Mar 12, 2020, 01:07 PM
Mar 2020

We're pushing more and more into the hinterland for our needs and wants...

dawg day

(7,947 posts)
3. In the beginning (January?), I heard a podcast with an epidemic expert--
Thu Mar 12, 2020, 01:08 PM
Mar 2020

(Might have been with Virginia Heffernan?)

That's when they thought this might be linked to bats. (That might still be the official theory.)

This expert said that fruit bats carry many viruses that are no danger to themselves, and usually no danger to us because their habitat has always been more forested areas. But with climate change, the habitat is disrupted and they're coming closer to inhabited areas, where they can infect domestic and farm animals (especially pigs, I think because they are outdoors but in small confined spaces).

So maybe climate change is connected?
But if the origin is actually an accidental release from a Chinese bio-war lab, like my conspiracy-theorist cousin just told me.....

Here's an article making the link to bats:
The genomic sequence of the virus—now officially called SARS-CoV-2 because it is related to the SARS pathogen—was 96 percent identical to that of a coronavirus the researchers had identified in horseshoe bats in Yunnan, they reported in a paper published last month in Nature. “It’s crystal clear that bats, once again, are the natural reservoir,” says Daszak, who was not involved in the study.

Fresh_Start

(11,330 posts)
6. they link it back to wet markets in china
Thu Mar 12, 2020, 01:52 PM
Mar 2020

wealthy people wanting to eat exotic meats..

I think SARS was also the same wet market link.

In china, it think that the documentary I saw said 22 of 40ish of the first cases all shopped at the same wet market.

essentially they stack the live animals in cages many cages high so droppings are essentially raining down on animals in lower cages... so you get this stew of diseases just brewing together

Genetic analyses have come up short of pinpointing the culprit so far, but among the prime suspects is the pangolin, a long-snouted, scaly, ant-eating mammal virtually unknown in the West but widely prized in China as a delicacy and for its purported medicinal virtues.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/05/asia/china-coronavirus-wildlife-consumption-ban-intl-hnk/index.html


 

k2qb3

(374 posts)
8. The doomersphere is worked up over the reduced dimming effect...
Thu Mar 12, 2020, 02:43 PM
Mar 2020

from decreased industrial pollution spiking temps.

Nature is bound to turn on us if we push it this hard, but I'm of the opinion this was a lab containment failure, too coincidental it broke out in the same city.

Could compound the issues most of the world is going to have with food production this year due to drought and pestilence related to warming though if people are sick or quarantined at planting time, plus the economic hardships are going to hit poorer places harder and complicate distribution.

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