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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsWhy can't Gates, Bloomberg and the Clinton foundation get a rapid test
For the virus and distribute it widely. If we dont start testing A LOT of people now, this its going to get much worse.
Dump had one job. He is responsible for every death in America.
Claustrum
(4,845 posts)and guess who control the FDA right now?
onecaliberal
(32,863 posts)EndlessWire
(6,537 posts)CBS, I think, that it wasn't a lack of kits, but a lack of reagents to go with the kits. There is a nation-wide shortage.
still_one
(92,217 posts)BumRushDaShow
(129,082 posts)https://www.cnbc.com/2020/03/11/amazon-care-gates-foundation-may-deliver-coronavirus-tests-in-seattle.html
The issue here with too much "rushing" without any "validating" is that the tests might result in too many false positives or false negatives. There will never be a perfect test due to everyone's unique biology but you do want to try to reduce the possibilities of bad results that end up using up resources that are needed for the truly infected.
stillcool
(32,626 posts)I did a quick search, and found Gates, and Bezo's, but don't feel like searching for more.
PUBLISHED WED, MAR 11 20204:29 PM EDTUPDATED WED, MAR 11 20206:42 PM EDT
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/03/11/amazon-care-gates-foundation-may-deliver-coronavirus-tests-in-seattle.html
https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/2020/03/09/bill-gates-fund-coronavirus-home-testing-kits-seattle-says-report/4998689002/
A project funded by billionaire Bill Gates is set to issue at-home testing kits for people who fear they have been infected with the coronavirus.
Just days after the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation announced a second round of investment to help detect and treat the new coronavirus, The Seattle Times reports that a project backed by the couple will be delivered to people in the Seattle area in the coming weeks.
Participants in the study will self administer a nose-swab and send the sample to health officials for testing. Medical experts will then notify those who test positive for the respiratory illness that has killed at least 3,000 people globally and sickened thousands, the report said.
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So far, no launch date has been determined. "While were working quickly with our partners to determine whats possible, details of this support have not yet been finalized," the foundation told USA TODAY in a statement.
Eugene
(61,900 posts)onecaliberal
(32,863 posts)We knew it was coming.
former9thward
(32,019 posts)onecaliberal
(32,863 posts)former9thward
(32,019 posts)I guess I missed that. You do know, don't you, that actual scientists, rather than anonymous internet posters, have to know what the virus is before a test can be developed? There is no one size fits all. That is why there are different vaccines for flu every year.
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)We all have a little bit of the fortune-teller in us.
Some of us are just abjectly worse at it than others in regards to awkward timing.
Eugene
(61,900 posts)Source: CNN via KRDO-TV
https://krdo.com/health/2020/03/11/wuhan-coronavirus-timeline-fast-facts/
1st week of January: Chinese officials start to act and start a "retrospective" investigation of the outbreak.
2nd-3rd weeks of January: First reported death and first reported overseas infection. First airport screenings start.
From this point onward, there is plenty of blame to go around, from official refusal to heed scientific advice to the unwillingness to coordinate a global response. That does not absolve the Trump administration of dismantling existing pandemic response programs in the belief that they could just hire some smart people once a disaster hits. The administration's de-funding CDC, DHS and DoD agencies and leaving key surviving positions unfilled is a matter of public record.
The Trump administration denied the seriousness of the situation, and at the same time they outsourced testing to two private companies who screwed up.
former9thward
(32,019 posts)I guess you don't. And then get it approved? I guess you don't . And then get it actually manufactured on a mass basis? I guess you don't.
Eugene
(61,900 posts)A virus test that can be used in a lab is a much simpler deal than a vaccine that needs clinical trials. The World Health Organization has an approved test. Much of the testing know-how and infrastructure was developed after the MERS outbreak.
This Forbes article is informative:
https://www.forbes.com/sites/stephaniesarkis/2020/03/12/covid-19-its-not-about-europe-its-about-incompetence/
Other countries run more tests in a single day the the United States has done since January. Tom Hanks could be tested because he was in Australia. He likely could not have been tested stateside.
And finally, the latest reporting from NPR is that Trump blocked the ramp-up of testing because it conflicted with his all-is-well narrative. The U.S. is flying blind. This didn't have to be.
uponit7771
(90,347 posts)... not by who but via nation and the FDA wouldn't approve WHO test specs for CV and CV19 cause Trump crony had to make money from CDC contract.
This is horrible
uponit7771
(90,347 posts)... when China was still in denial.
There were Harvard people in China when all this kicked off.
Trump made things worse