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turbinetree

(24,703 posts)
Fri Mar 13, 2020, 09:05 PM Mar 2020

House Democrats propose sending checks of up to $6,000 to help

ease workers’ pain curing coronavirus pandemic

Published 2 hours ago on March 13, 2020
By Common Dreams

“As more folks are staying in and taking necessary steps to avoid spread of the coronavirus, more Americans will struggle to cover basic needs like rent, groceries, and medicines.”

As President Donald Trump declared a national emergency Friday to free up $50 billion in funding to address the coronavirus pandemic, a pair of Democratic congressmen proposed legislation that would provide a check of up to $6,000 to every American whose income last year was below $65,000.

The coronavirus disease (COVID-19) outbreak that began in Wuhan, China late last year has so far killed over 5,000 people and infected tens of thousands worldwide. As governments impose travel restrictions, the U.S. stock market continues to fluctuate, and business and schools increasingly shut down, lawmakers and the Trump administration have debated how to help out Americans who are struggling financially because of the public health crisis.

Reps. Ro Khanna (D-Calif.) and Tim Ryan (D-Ohio) on Friday called for creating an emergency Earned Income Tax Credit (EITC) to send checks of $1,000 and $6,000 to the more than three-quarters of American workers who would qualify. Within three weeks of the legislation’s passage, 200 million Americans would receive checks, followed by monthly payments through the end of 2020. The proposal would especially serve independent contractors and hourly and gig workers.

https://www.rawstory.com/2020/03/house-democrats-propose-sending-checks-of-up-to-6000-to-help-ease-workers-pain-curing-coronavirus-pandemic/

That is a great idea...............................

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House Democrats propose sending checks of up to $6,000 to help (Original Post) turbinetree Mar 2020 OP
Qualify ? That's mighty scary jimfields33 Mar 2020 #1
It sounds like it is for what some would define as non traditional work in the OP lunasun Mar 2020 #6
Like freelance musicians? Probably a category nobody ever thinks about. pangaia Mar 2020 #28
It's a gig. I know people who are non traditional and already seeing declines lunasun Mar 2020 #31
You know what would be fun? DENVERPOPS Mar 2020 #17
I get mine done March 28th jimfields33 Mar 2020 #19
Probably will not be a penalty . Trump is already moving that way but no details . I imagine blanket lunasun Mar 2020 #34
Did you pay employment taxes on the odd jobs? Mars and Minerva Mar 2020 #25
I don't know anymore than the article says, but ToxMarz Mar 2020 #40
I don't like giving out checks rockfordfile Mar 2020 #2
Really? jimfields33 Mar 2020 #3
Then you must have the means to not interact with working people who will not comply if they need lunasun Mar 2020 #5
How about funding it DENVERPOPS Mar 2020 #22
I don't like sushi. Flaleftist Mar 2020 #7
U don't like sushi. i don't like lima beans. trueblue2007 Mar 2020 #10
F U! Flaleftist Mar 2020 #11
I don't like mushrooms. dewsgirl Mar 2020 #32
Okay. SammyWinstonJack Mar 2020 #8
Especially when you remember DENVERPOPS Mar 2020 #24
Then don't. Wednesdays Mar 2020 #37
That's my Congressman! Ohiogal Mar 2020 #4
I am on the income border edhopper Mar 2020 #9
As a small local mom and pop person Cal Carpenter Mar 2020 #13
I'm sorry you're going through all of this. Turin_C3PO Mar 2020 #16
Thanks so much Cal Carpenter Mar 2020 #18
I'm very sorry to hear that DarthDem Mar 2020 #35
Wouldn't that just be a bitch Sucha NastyWoman Mar 2020 #12
And the evil turtle sends the Senate home for weekend. rickyhall Mar 2020 #14
I would spend mine on campaign pledges. gibraltar72 Mar 2020 #15
Well i can tell you for sure ibegurpard Mar 2020 #20
It's a bold idea bucolic_frolic Mar 2020 #21
agree. nt yaesu Mar 2020 #23
I would amend it to 6k for singles under 30k and for couples under 65k it should be 10k. cstanleytech Mar 2020 #26
We really can't have a 40-50% contraction in our consumer oriented economy. OAITW r.2.0 Mar 2020 #27
Wish they did not forget us seniors chillfactor Mar 2020 #29
I agree; but, theoretically, we are still getting our benefits as usual, even if deficient. Hoyt Mar 2020 #33
But stocking up on household supplies, wnylib Mar 2020 #41
Maybe a partial payment. The intent is to help folks out for what Hoyt Mar 2020 #42
I understand the intent. I am pointing wnylib Mar 2020 #43
before or after taxes? Demonaut Mar 2020 #30
If it's before or after taxes, I'd still take the help. Hoyt Mar 2020 #38
If it's an EITC DarthDem Mar 2020 #39
To improve chances of passage, I wouldn't pay people who are still working. Hoyt Mar 2020 #36

jimfields33

(15,807 posts)
1. Qualify ? That's mighty scary
Fri Mar 13, 2020, 09:10 PM
Mar 2020

For example I am retired military with a VA classification together worth 3100 a month. I also made 9,900 in extra jobs around the neighborhood. So may total was around 40K. Will that qualify or do only traditional job holders get anything? What about senior citizens???

I know they say up to 200 million, but what does that mean.

Of course, the senate will say no so it’s all moot anyway. Ugh!

lunasun

(21,646 posts)
6. It sounds like it is for what some would define as non traditional work in the OP
Fri Mar 13, 2020, 09:28 PM
Mar 2020

“The proposal would especially serve independent contractors and hourly and gig workers. “

That would be you I would assume

pangaia

(24,324 posts)
28. Like freelance musicians? Probably a category nobody ever thinks about.
Fri Mar 13, 2020, 11:06 PM
Mar 2020

I just donated to the New York Classical Players.


DENVERPOPS

(8,820 posts)
17. You know what would be fun?
Fri Mar 13, 2020, 10:24 PM
Mar 2020

For everyone to file an extension until October 15th. You might have to pay a small penalty?, but the frightening effect on Trump and Republican Politicians would be worth it.........

Some tax accountant would have to tell me if my idea is crazy or not......Many of them are more than likely Repubs, so we will have to judge their replies.

lunasun

(21,646 posts)
34. Probably will not be a penalty . Trump is already moving that way but no details . I imagine blanket
Fri Mar 13, 2020, 11:17 PM
Mar 2020

delay
president did not state the date to which taxpayers will be allowed to delay their tax filings, but it is expected to be between June 15 and October 15. Nor did the president specify which taxpayers would be eligible for this tax deadline relief.

Details from IRS to follow

Mars and Minerva

(369 posts)
25. Did you pay employment taxes on the odd jobs?
Fri Mar 13, 2020, 10:57 PM
Mar 2020

I don't think it will matter what you do to earn the money as long as you declare what you make, pay into the system and have a history of it.

ToxMarz

(2,168 posts)
40. I don't know anymore than the article says, but
Fri Mar 13, 2020, 11:54 PM
Mar 2020

"to every American whose income last year was below $65,000" would seem to mean just that.

I would imagine that last year's tax return would be what they used to qualify you. If your tax returns from last year don't show that, I would imagine there is very stringent criteria (if any) they would accept otherwise.

lunasun

(21,646 posts)
5. Then you must have the means to not interact with working people who will not comply if they need
Fri Mar 13, 2020, 09:22 PM
Mar 2020
rent cash and food when ill
Why would someone healthy under 45 stay home when sick when the odds are they will recover and if they don’t have any means to any money otherwise? Plus management can tell many no matter the age OK stay home then don’t come back
at least this would be some leverage to comply

The proposal would especially serve independent contractors and hourly and gig workers.
This usually means no sick pay or unemployment

DENVERPOPS

(8,820 posts)
22. How about funding it
Fri Mar 13, 2020, 10:37 PM
Mar 2020

with a retro active repeal of the last several tax cuts for the rich and corporations. that should be at least a trillion dollars or more?

Of course, if the shit hits the fan, you will see every last one of thewealthy republicans and republican politicians flying out of the U.S. like bats out of a giant cave.........

Of course Trump is already promising "bail outs" to every corporate industry in America...........That will be done with the giddy approval of the Republican Senate, while anything that gives anything to U.S. citizens will be merely "tabled" and not even voted on.......

I can well imagine the Republicans will cease ALL taxes on anyone earning over a half a million a year and corporations earning over one million a year with the logic that THOSE individuals and corporations will be the ones TRULY sacrificing to the rebuilding of America.........And, therefore deserve the right to not be taxed.......(I can hear them saying those exact words.......LOL)

DENVERPOPS

(8,820 posts)
24. Especially when you remember
Fri Mar 13, 2020, 10:50 PM
Mar 2020

that the 50 million that voted for Trump don't bear any of the consequences and get the same amount!?!?

Cal Carpenter

(4,959 posts)
13. As a small local mom and pop person
Fri Mar 13, 2020, 10:14 PM
Mar 2020

I thank you for saying that, and doing that.

Seven years of blood sweat and tears to make my business nearly, finally viable may be meaningless if this shuts us down for a couple months.

The thought of any cash assistance is a huge relief, and the idea that people would deliberately use it to help nurse businesses like mine along throughout this nightmare warms my heart.

Hubby and I are struggling with the decision to lock our doors for the time being. We hope to make it through the weekend and reevaluate. Our state seems to be shutting down fast in the last 48 hours, schools, libraries, even our bank. This isn't going away and I expect nonessential businesses will be asked or even ordered to cease operations before long. On top of our fears for the health of our community and ourselves, the thought of shuttering our business without knowing what the coming weeks and months hold is heartbreaking.

Turin_C3PO

(13,992 posts)
16. I'm sorry you're going through all of this.
Fri Mar 13, 2020, 10:19 PM
Mar 2020

I wish you and your business the absolute best in the (hopefully) near future.

Cal Carpenter

(4,959 posts)
18. Thanks so much
Fri Mar 13, 2020, 10:25 PM
Mar 2020


This is already impacting so many people and it will only get worse. But we are not alone, and at least virtual hugs are still safe.

DarthDem

(5,255 posts)
35. I'm very sorry to hear that
Fri Mar 13, 2020, 11:24 PM
Mar 2020

I very firmly believe that there is a light at the end of the tunnel and we're going to emerge from this a better and stronger nation. I believe you will not only make it through the weekend as you planned, but through next week and the week after as well! It warms my heart, as it must yours, that we have empathetic, caring politicians like Nancy Pelosi working on this. My best to you!!

ibegurpard

(16,685 posts)
20. Well i can tell you for sure
Fri Mar 13, 2020, 10:27 PM
Mar 2020

At this point and any point in the forseeable future i sure as shit wouldn't be spending it. It would go in a mattress.

bucolic_frolic

(43,166 posts)
21. It's a bold idea
Fri Mar 13, 2020, 10:29 PM
Mar 2020

Too large to have any chance of passing, but I guess that's part of the method, go big or go home.

I think they should target workers who actually lose work because of COVID-19, even if it's government ordered shutdowns, as well as those earning less than $30k. Checks in the thousands would create a lot of inflation as retailers see opportunity to raise prices.

Perhaps they could target rent or mortgage and food vouchers for those who lose work.

This legislation won't move an inch before January 2021

cstanleytech

(26,291 posts)
26. I would amend it to 6k for singles under 30k and for couples under 65k it should be 10k.
Fri Mar 13, 2020, 11:00 PM
Mar 2020

Of course then you have the disabled and or elderly adults being cared for by a relative so those people should qualify for the 6k as a single assuming they are not married of course in which case the couple qualify for the 10k.
I know there will be some Republicans who will whine about the cost to the budget but really it will directly stimulate the economy as those people unlike the wealthy will actually spend the majority of that money inside the US as they will not sit on most of it and reinvest in stocks that do nothing except gain value.

OAITW r.2.0

(24,504 posts)
27. We really can't have a 40-50% contraction in our consumer oriented economy.
Fri Mar 13, 2020, 11:01 PM
Mar 2020

We have become a service economy for the better of 15 years. We lost our manufacturing soul in the late 90's.


Then what?

wnylib

(21,466 posts)
41. But stocking up on household supplies,
Sat Mar 14, 2020, 12:06 AM
Mar 2020

plus 3 months supply of prescriptions all at once, eats up a month's income fast. Then wait a month to finish buying supplies you could not afford the previous month, which means the risk of going in public a month after it is already not good to go out. Not to mention depleted supplies in stores by then.

And then what if you do get sick and need medical care?

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
42. Maybe a partial payment. The intent is to help folks out for what
Sat Mar 14, 2020, 12:25 AM
Mar 2020

they might be losing. That is mostly those who will lose pay and work.

Medical care, we still have Medicare. But, some might need help with copays.

But, you make a good point.

wnylib

(21,466 posts)
43. I understand the intent. I am pointing
Sat Mar 14, 2020, 12:48 AM
Mar 2020

out that the situation puts increased expenses on people whose fixed incomes do not allow for extra expenses. So they do without needed supplies, or cannot stock up for a period of quarantine, or for staying home for their own safety. This occurs when their pensions and IRAs are tanking.

I did not get a 3 month supply of my inhaler, for example, because the copay was way out of reach. I will not get a one month supply this month, either, because 3 months of other meds makes it impossible. I have a couple weeks worth of samples from the doctor that I am saving instead of using now, in case I get sick.

DarthDem

(5,255 posts)
39. If it's an EITC
Fri Mar 13, 2020, 11:25 PM
Mar 2020

. . . as the article states then I don't believe taxes would be deducted from it. Or if you were asking about the $65K, I'm sure they mean gross income.
 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
36. To improve chances of passage, I wouldn't pay people who are still working.
Fri Mar 13, 2020, 11:24 PM
Mar 2020

I’m all for help for those who lose their jobs or hours. I’m for covering healthcare costs, etc.

But, a lot of people will continue to work. They’ll benefit the next time if a precedent is set.

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