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Orrex

(63,224 posts)
Sun Mar 15, 2020, 01:57 AM Mar 2020

An older guy told me today that the virus isn't that serious

that it was engineered by China to punish Trump for the trade war, and that Democrats are deliberately causing panic to hurt Trump.

At the end of our interaction, I had to ask him for his email, to send him the work order.

"Hell, I don't use that."

Logic, evidence, facts, reason, science, and medicine are powerless to overcome this kind of deliberate, entrenched, and proud fuckheadness that so typifies Trump's cult and, frankly, a too large percentage of Americans besides.


This is the level of apocalyptic, impenetrable stupidity that we face.

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An older guy told me today that the virus isn't that serious (Original Post) Orrex Mar 2020 OP
Some guy told me the same thing the other day. Doreen Mar 2020 #1
Did you bash him in the face with a crowbar, like I wanted to do? Orrex Mar 2020 #2
No, he is a nice guy. Doreen Mar 2020 #3
Don't go too soft on them. Jamastiene Mar 2020 #5
My heart goes to you. Doreen Mar 2020 #6
The dueling characterizations of Republicks here, equally valid, are making me laugh nt coti Mar 2020 #8
They are proud of being stubborn. Jamastiene Mar 2020 #4
Fox news, rush limbaugh. Until we get rid of Fox news, we will NEVER again have peace. BComplex Mar 2020 #7
From my Shanghai friend, in constant touch with people in China: The US did this to China. NBachers Mar 2020 #9
That is really sad. Caliman73 Mar 2020 #17
84 year old female neighbor told me the same thing yesterday. Dem2theMax Mar 2020 #10
Yes then it will be real but it was still engineered by China to punish Trump for the trade war, lunasun Mar 2020 #11
the only thing you can do about drumpf voters is stay the fuck away from them Takket Mar 2020 #13
You exactly correct except on one point Orrex Mar 2020 #15
yeah because all countries that "engineer" viruses turn them loose on their own people first Takket Mar 2020 #12
Oh, he's got that covered Orrex Mar 2020 #16
You are using logic. They do not. Caliman73 Mar 2020 #18
Trump's attempt to monopolize the vaccine is a crime against humanity Orrex Mar 2020 #20
Talk to these assholes in 3 weeks..... Brainfodder Mar 2020 #14
Then why do they have the most cases there? treestar Mar 2020 #19

Doreen

(11,686 posts)
3. No, he is a nice guy.
Sun Mar 15, 2020, 02:18 AM
Mar 2020

I have to give him slack because he regretted voting for trump and will be voting Democrat now. Yes, he said that.

You can't expect life long repubs to heal all at once.

They are like alcoholics, they are always recovering. You just need to help them not drink or vote wrong.

Jamastiene

(38,187 posts)
5. Don't go too soft on them.
Sun Mar 15, 2020, 02:20 AM
Mar 2020

Republicans are like crab grass. You give them an inch and they'll take a mile. Trust me. I'm in the belly of the beast down here in the Bible Belt. They are disgusting.

Doreen

(11,686 posts)
6. My heart goes to you.
Sun Mar 15, 2020, 02:24 AM
Mar 2020

Even though I live in a red county I am close enough to Olympia to find blue if I need it.

Jamastiene

(38,187 posts)
4. They are proud of being stubborn.
Sun Mar 15, 2020, 02:19 AM
Mar 2020

That is the bottom line. THAT is what they are most proud of.

I still wonder if that kind of psychology, what is it, the reverse psychology, I forget what it is called, would work on them, if we tried it.

BComplex

(8,064 posts)
7. Fox news, rush limbaugh. Until we get rid of Fox news, we will NEVER again have peace.
Sun Mar 15, 2020, 02:28 AM
Mar 2020

They have screwed up more minds than we have time to count.

NBachers

(17,136 posts)
9. From my Shanghai friend, in constant touch with people in China: The US did this to China.
Sun Mar 15, 2020, 04:06 AM
Mar 2020

Many Chinese people honestly believe that Coronavirus was planted into China by the United States.

This kind of "everybody knows" ignorance is happening all over.

Caliman73

(11,744 posts)
17. That is really sad.
Sun Mar 15, 2020, 02:06 PM
Mar 2020

The most likely cause of the virus was by pushing into territories too quickly which is how it always seems to happen. I think that investigations into the origins of this virus and a lot of the others that seem to be emerging mainly from China, point to their unregulated open animal markets. It is being reported that there is a lot of hunting and trapping of wild animals, sold in markets for their "freshness" as opposed to the factory farmed meat. People are bringing in animals that carry diseases that we don't know of until they start to spread to us.

Dem2theMax

(9,653 posts)
10. 84 year old female neighbor told me the same thing yesterday.
Sun Mar 15, 2020, 05:05 AM
Mar 2020

I very gently tried to steer her true the truth. And I gave her a lot of other facts as well. She kept telling me that she 'hadn't heard that on the news.' Well if you listen to Faux, you're not going to hear any NEWS!

We must have talked for 20 minutes. I could feel when her brain just shut down, and she didn't want to hear any more truth. It hit me that she has this fairytale view of the world, and she likes that view. She doesn't want anyone to disturb that view.

And it finally dawned on me. There really is no way to get through to them. There's no point in wasting my time trying to get them to see the light. It's going to take one of their loved ones dropping dead in front of them from the Coronavirus for them to realize this is real.

lunasun

(21,646 posts)
11. Yes then it will be real but it was still engineered by China to punish Trump for the trade war,
Sun Mar 15, 2020, 01:14 PM
Mar 2020

It won’t stop goofy when it becomes real not a hoax to their world it will just flip to CT s and nonsense directed paranoia . Stupid will stay stupid imo

Takket

(21,625 posts)
13. the only thing you can do about drumpf voters is stay the fuck away from them
Sun Mar 15, 2020, 01:18 PM
Mar 2020

They are immoral, stupid, and believe they are invincible as long as drumpf is president. and they are the vehicle this virus needs to get EVERYWHERE

Orrex

(63,224 posts)
15. You exactly correct except on one point
Sun Mar 15, 2020, 01:58 PM
Mar 2020

Even after their loved ones start dying, they still won't open their eyes.

They are a cult of idiots fully invested in their bullshit worldview. Trump could personally infect every one of them with coronavirus, and they'd still worship him.

Orrex

(63,224 posts)
16. Oh, he's got that covered
Sun Mar 15, 2020, 01:59 PM
Mar 2020

1. "They" have no regard for human life, so they don't care if a few Chinese people die along the way

2. With a population over one billion, "they" can afford to lose a few.

He stated both of these things, and I'm sure that others here have had similar experiences with the festering shitheads that they've encountered.

Caliman73

(11,744 posts)
18. You are using logic. They do not.
Sun Mar 15, 2020, 02:15 PM
Mar 2020

There is a thread about Trump trying to steal German scientists who are on the path to an effective treatment for the virus by bribing them with large sums of money to come to the US and make the treatment exclusive to the US. It totally fits into my view of who Trump is and what he is capable of. I try to suspend judgement however, until I get confirmation by several credible sources. I do that because I do not want to become like right wingers who do not use any critical thinking skills.

You are absolutely correct. China was hit hard and is still suffering the effects of the virus. It would be stupid to think that they deliberately spread the infection and cause economic havoc on themselves instead of just sending the virus to the US. The problem is that these right wingers are operating solely on emotion. They are not subject to logic or critical thinking.

Orrex

(63,224 posts)
20. Trump's attempt to monopolize the vaccine is a crime against humanity
Sun Mar 15, 2020, 04:37 PM
Mar 2020

And he should be handled accordingly.

Even prior to usurping office, he was a threat to peace and stability worldwide, but as this crisis unfolds, he is proving himself again and again to be an uncontrolled and uncontrollable catastrophe.

There will come a point when the phrase "by any means necessary" enters conversations about his removal from office.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
19. Then why do they have the most cases there?
Sun Mar 15, 2020, 02:16 PM
Mar 2020

I've hard that CT. The Russians have very few cases though. They'd make a better CT.

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