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OhioChick

(23,218 posts)
Thu Mar 19, 2020, 12:06 AM Mar 2020

What You Can Do For Your ER Medical Community

If your company, or others in your community have access to plastic face shields that can be cleaned with bleach after each use, protective eye wear, goggles, N-95 labeled masks, surgical masks, nitrile gloves, tyvek suits, etc. please ask them to donate these items to their emergency departments around the country.

The masks and other gear are commonly used outside of a medical setting, be it construction, automotive painting shops, wood shops, literally any where that deals with organic chemicals. (Cleaning companies, as well)

As you have probably heard, the Secretary of Defense is releasing 5 million masks from our Federal stockpile. Although this seems like a massive amount, this will buy our Country 2-3 weeks.

As a Nation, we need to all come together as one team and conquer this threat.

We need to protect our Doctors, Nurses and Staff so that we have them for the duration of this pandemic.

Please Keep This Kicked, Please.
Lives Depend on This.

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What You Can Do For Your ER Medical Community (Original Post) OhioChick Mar 2020 OP
Kicking mahina Mar 2020 #1
Thank You n/t OhioChick Mar 2020 #4
K & R KT2000 Mar 2020 #2
Thank You n/t OhioChick Mar 2020 #15
a family member works in the ICU. sheshe2 Mar 2020 #3
More will come in what seems to be overnight OhioChick Mar 2020 #16
You too. sheshe2 Mar 2020 #29
K & R Duppers Mar 2020 #5
Thank you for your kindness OhioChick Mar 2020 #6
As I just read your kind reply Duppers Mar 2020 #8
Now you have me in tears again... OhioChick Mar 2020 #13
Dear OC Duppers Mar 2020 #23
No Worries OhioChick Mar 2020 #24
Kicking. Dem2theMax Mar 2020 #7
Thank You n/t OhioChick Mar 2020 #17
K&R denbot Mar 2020 #9
Thank You n/t OhioChick Mar 2020 #18
Kick for visibility. love_katz Mar 2020 #10
Thank You n/t OhioChick Mar 2020 #19
I believe everything used in a hospital setting must be sterile and approved stuff... KY_EnviroGuy Mar 2020 #11
Thank You for the Link OhioChick Mar 2020 #20
If exceptions are being made - Ms. Toad Mar 2020 #27
The masks are the same, just (sometimes) not sterile packaging. But we're beyond that... FailureToCommunicate Mar 2020 #25
I just wanted to remind everyone that we traditionally have very strict protocols... KY_EnviroGuy Mar 2020 #26
No, of course you are correct. FailureToCommunicate Mar 2020 #28
A second thought.... KY_EnviroGuy Mar 2020 #12
Thank You for the Idea OhioChick Mar 2020 #21
K&R frogmarch Mar 2020 #14
Thank You OhioChick Mar 2020 #22
Kicking Bayard Mar 2020 #30
K&R bdamomma Mar 2020 #31

Duppers

(28,125 posts)
5. K & R
Thu Mar 19, 2020, 02:04 AM
Mar 2020

Hope your ER-doc offsprings are now suited with adequate masks or will be asap.

And hope you're sleeping better.


OhioChick

(23,218 posts)
6. Thank you for your kindness
Thu Mar 19, 2020, 02:11 AM
Mar 2020

It brought tears to my eyes....

They still have nothing, unfortunately.

I had no choice but to buy about $3000 worth of N-95's from eBay before they took them down as they're restricting sales of them. I figured that could buy them some time.

I also ordered some plastic face shields that can be bleached down from Harbor Freight.

I just feel like my hands are tied at this point.

I'm just so worn down...

Thank you again, I appreciate your kindness and caring.

Stay safe.

Duppers

(28,125 posts)
8. As I just read your kind reply
Thu Mar 19, 2020, 02:40 AM
Mar 2020

Last edited Thu Mar 19, 2020, 04:26 AM - Edit history (1)

aloud to my hubby, my voice cracked; you touched me too. We moms understand each other's concerns.

I've a 32yo son now living in Brooklyn where an explosion of new cases was reported today. He video called tonight to reassure me he's ok, staying in, and fixing all his meals at home.

Possibly, local NASA labs could have a stock of these supplies they could donate. Will find a phone #/ email addy to ask about this tomorrow. (Hubs is retired NASA guy.)

The country's in a great crisis. We all must be thankful for medical teams like ones your kids belong to.
You're a GREAT mom /human!

Hope you sleep.


OhioChick

(23,218 posts)
13. Now you have me in tears again...
Thu Mar 19, 2020, 03:26 AM
Mar 2020

I don't know if you have children but you'd give up your own life for their well-being.

I'm glad to hear that your husband is safe and staying in. That's the best thing for his safety. You do the same, if possible.

We only had a few cases and then they began doubling quickly. There's no testing unless you're already in need of hospitalization or a vent.

We turned into a red zone overnight, it seems.
The streets are eerily empty, like a ghost town.
Nothing is open.

Thank you for the idea of NASA. Someone told me to try calling the dentist's office today. They're closed and only open for emergencies. Unfortunately, they have low stock.

I did call 3M and am going to be in contact with them again tomorrow, as well as several news agencies that would like to speak with me.
I spent at least $5000K on supplies for my kid's safety on eBay. It'll take them about 2 weeks. You do what you have to do to protect those you love.

I'm not going to sleep. I'm too wound up.

I'm going to sit here until my son wakes up to go into work, make him breakfast and load him up on vitamins, can't hurt. I'll then make a dumb joke and try to get him to smile, tell him I love him and cry like a baby when he leaves wondering if he's all right.

Many that have minimal cases in their States are in for the shock of their lives. Never in my wildest dreams did I ever expect "this."

It will affect everyone and from what I understand from my sons and their colleagues (who call me of all people for comfort) it's going to be extremely bad.

Thank you for your compliments. We have to do what we have to do.

You've been so very kind, I appreciate it. Your posts really touch my heart.


Duppers

(28,125 posts)
23. Dear OC
Thu Mar 19, 2020, 04:40 AM
Mar 2020

So sorry: I left out an important word in my post & that was "son." It's my son living in Brooklyn. Very sorry about that. My hubby is retired & in his 70's.

That's how I can relate to you so much: I'm also a mother of a young man.

You'll like the article I just posted:
https://www.democraticunderground.com/10142451058
Tell the news agencies you speak with about this article.

We live in Virginia, btw. Hubby retired from NASA Langley, Hampton, VA, where he worked for 41yrs.


OhioChick

(23,218 posts)
24. No Worries
Thu Mar 19, 2020, 04:57 AM
Mar 2020

I just saw your edit.

I understand much better now.

Please tell your son to be safe and limit his time away from home if possible, and to take necessary precautions. We'd do anything for them as mothers, wouldn't we?

Thanks for the link to your article. I'm going to read it and will pass it on to the new agencies that I speak with tomorrow. (Well, today)

As for you and your husband, please don't go out unless you absolutely must.

I have had my mother hibernating now for a month. She's fine with it and understands the risks and why she needs to do this. For being stubborn, she's been very compliant.

Virginia is such a beautiful State. I've visited there many times and hope to again, one day.

Wow, 41 years with NASA, that's impressive!

Check your inbox, sent you a PM.

KY_EnviroGuy

(14,492 posts)
11. I believe everything used in a hospital setting must be sterile and approved stuff...
Thu Mar 19, 2020, 02:57 AM
Mar 2020

that has gone through a strictly approved and controlled manufacturing process (see link, below).

Their liability insurance carriers would have to ease their standards, as would other agencies governing such supplies.

If we didn't have very strict standards, every jack leg around the globe would be making inferior gear and pushing it to hospitals. Same logic applies to our drugs.

Please review this site:

NSF International

Link: https://www.nsf.org/

However, things could get bad enough for the controlling authorities to make exceptions.......

Beautiful, humanist thought but I doubt hospital administrators allowing it through their doors.

OhioChick

(23,218 posts)
20. Thank You for the Link
Thu Mar 19, 2020, 04:34 AM
Mar 2020

I will pass it on.

Unfortunately, we're beyond any of that.

Many exceptions are being made as we speak.

We're already entering uncharted waters.

FailureToCommunicate

(14,014 posts)
25. The masks are the same, just (sometimes) not sterile packaging. But we're beyond that...
Thu Mar 19, 2020, 08:35 AM
Mar 2020

now. Way beyond.

Liability for the manufactures seems to be a sticking point, not the quality of the gear. And VP Pence said the other day (one of the few reasonable things he DID say) that the government is directing the insurers to wave that clause on that use of the masks for this emergency.

My son in Texas is in such a medical setting and they have masks for now, but unsure for how long.

KY_EnviroGuy

(14,492 posts)
26. I just wanted to remind everyone that we traditionally have very strict protocols...
Thu Mar 19, 2020, 11:56 AM
Mar 2020

that normally restrict what can and cannot enter the medical supply chain and that's a good thing. Every step of the process is controlled and monitored.

That said as a base, we can and obviously are, breaking those rules temporarily just to survive the crisis.

All of us hoping we survive to see the day things return to normal.......

KY_EnviroGuy

(14,492 posts)
12. A second thought....
Thu Mar 19, 2020, 03:02 AM
Mar 2020

there may well be charity agencies that can funnel funds to hospitals and clinics and some may even accept contributions directly. That way, they remain in control of their proper chain of supply.

Other than that, perhaps offer to buy lunch for your local ER staff!.........

OhioChick

(23,218 posts)
21. Thank You for the Idea
Thu Mar 19, 2020, 04:37 AM
Mar 2020

It's appreciated.

Buying pizza's or donuts for your local ER staff is a wonderful idea!

They're not eating as it is, so I'm sure it would be a warm gesture, provided they can eat it in a much more sterile environment than the ER.

Great Idea.

OhioChick

(23,218 posts)
22. Thank You
Thu Mar 19, 2020, 04:38 AM
Mar 2020

For keeping this kicked.

It's so important.

These are people who are putting their lives on the line to save as many as they can.

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