When are we going to see spraying down the streets...

[ace3csusm]

I have not heard of any plans or proposals at this point if we are locking down city's why not start the conversation...Below is what China and South Korea have done...Do we even have equipment to do what hey have done see Youtube links...Are we going to keep dragging or feet...

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[jberryhill]

1. "Are we going to keep dragging or feet"

Would you mind posting whatever evidence there is that "spraying stuff in the streets" has any effectiveness other than the public relations value of looking like one is "doing something"?

If there was any validity to whatever is going on in these videos, then you might think that countries with rational leadership which are not "dragging their feet", such as France, would be doing something like this.

So, yes, let's start the conversation.

What are they spraying? What is it believed to do? What is the evidence that it does anything? And what is the potential harm of whatever chemical it is?

Your turn, pick a question and run with it.

[ace3csusm]

2. Chine& South Korea seems to have slowled spread

if you youtube search spraying streets for covid19, you find what steps they took to fight virus...at the rate we are going we will see over 100,000 infected by the end of March...

[jberryhill]

3. So?

Pick a question:

What is it they are spraying?

Why do you believe that "spraying stuff in the streets" had anything to do with anything?

They did many other things aside from "spraying stuff in the streets".

South Korea has a lot of people named "Kim". If we all change our names to "Kim", then will the infection rate go down?

Here's one to chew on: Do you think urban living patterns are different in US cities versus Korean and Chinese cities?

For example, have you ever been to Los Angeles? How does the living pattern of persons in Los Angeles differ from, say, Hong Kong?

If I showed you (a) blocks of high-rise apartments, and (b) vast sprawling regions of single-family homes, which one of those would be an Asian city, and which one would be Los Angeles?

[2naSalit]

4. ...

[ace3csusm]

5. disinfectant

Lysol it up...the Chinese where spraying a watered down beach solution,
dont know what the South Koreans did

[crickets]

6. Spraying down the streets may do more harm than good.

Does disinfecting surfaces really prevent the spread of coronavirus? MAR12
https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2020/03/does-disinfecting-surfaces-really-prevent-spread-coronavirus

So, what about outdoors? According to a variety of local news reports from cities including Shanghai and Gwangju, South Korea, the disinfectant most commonly used outdoors is a diluted solution of sodium hypochlorite, or household bleach. But it’s unclear whether bleach destroys coronaviruses outside, and if it does kill them on surfaces it's unclear whether it would kill viruses in the air. Bleach itself breaks down under ultraviolet (UV) light. Then again, Leon says, UV light seems to destroy coronaviruses as well. And coronavirus exposure from outdoor surfaces may be limited already: “Nobody goes around licking sidewalks or trees,” Leon says.

There may even be downsides to widespread overzealous disinfection with bleach, notes Julia Silva Sobolik, a graduate student in Leon’s lab. “Bleach is highly irritating to mucous membranes,” Sobolik says. That means people exposed to sprayed disinfectants—especially the workers who spray them—are at risk of respiratory troubles, among other ailments. Sobolik notes that an October 2019 study in JAMA Network Open found that nurses who regularly used disinfectants to clean surfaces were at higher risk of chronic obstructive pulmonary disease. A 2017 study linked exposure to disinfectants to asthma to adults in Germany. Both of those studies dealt with yearslong exposure to disinfectants. Still, the message seems to be taking hold. In a recent television broadcast by state CCTV in China, Zhang Liubo, a researcher with China’s Center for Disease Control and Prevention, warned the public that, “Outdoor surfaces, such as roads, squares, lawns, should not be sprayed with disinfectants repeatedly. … Spraying disinfectants over a large area and repeatedly may cause environmental pollution and should be avoided.”

[jberryhill]

7. But it generates great videos of people "doing something"

[crickets]

8. Sure, it looks impressive and it makes people wonder why we aren't doing the same.

It's not an unreasonable topic to wonder or ask about.

I have thought about it myself, and now I don't feel I have to any more.

The people doing something scenario I would love to see would be in a US factory that manufactures medical supplies like masks and gloves, or even ventilators. Pictures of that would get me all excited and feeling better about people doing something.

[gibraltar72]

9. You can get arrested for that.

[OriginalGeek]

10. I dunno - they just sent the cleaning crew though our building

wiping down everyone's phones, keyboards and mouses.

I guess I feel safer.

[Igel]

11. Schools here have been "deep cleaned."

To kill the covid-19 virus.

Teachers will be allowed in to pick up what they need during a set time window. They'll each have 10 minutes. Can't touch things other than what's necessary. Must use hand sanitizer before entering.

We are the biohazard, it seems.

School won't be in session for two weeks. The buildings will be completely empty. Nobody's been in since they were cleaned 10-11 days ago.

The virus lasts perhaps 3 days on stainless steel, less on most other surfaces.

Except, apparently, any surface in a school. Then the school exerts an immortality field that renders the virus potent indefinitely.