Before We Franken Feinstein, Let's make SURE of the facts

[berni_mccoy]

Let's find out what she knew when she knew it.

Let's find out exactly what she sold (and what she didn't).

And finally, one things for damn sure, she wasn't downplaying the virus to her constituents like Burr and his buddies. The Democrats have been calling for Trump and the Republicans to take this seriously while the GOP kept its mouths shut or echoed the Democratic Hoax bullshit.

So, please, knock the shit off on calling for her resignation.

[Wounded Bear]

1. K & R...for visibility...

Yeah, let's not knee jerk another powerful senator out of office.

[bronxiteforever]

2. Kick & recommend for visibility.

[uponit7771]

3. K&R, Fienstien's husband sold on the way down at a year high LOSS he did the right thing. Burr on ..

... the other hand was pumping Red Don's economy while dumping a sector knowing some shit was coming down the pike.

Burr's trade looks REALLY shady damn near illegal seeing what he was saying in the recording.

[hlthe2b]

4. Especially posts who accuse those presenting zctual reporting & that suggests alternate conclusions

as "spinning" --sans any evidence countering.

As much as I try to welcome newbies, sometimes we give too much benefit-of-the-doubt to those whose first posts seem to reflect memes from the right.

[DFW]

5. In other words, the Senate shouldn't do to Feinstein what she did to Al Franken

Actually, I agree. It was wrong for her to do it to Al then, and it would be wrong for the Senate to do it to her now.

[marble falls]

16. Funny how that works. But I do agree with you.

[jaxexpat]

6. Bothsiderism means nobody gets held accountable but everybody gets accused

[uponit7771]

10. +1, ... and this looks really bad for Republicans so far. Of course they want a Dem include no matte

...what the facts

[Thekaspervote]

18. STOP! Know the facts. Feinstein & her husband did not make millions..stock was a a low

[3Hotdogs]

29. If he sold the stock to prevent further loss, and the sale was based on inside info, he's guilty.

If the sale was to prevent further loss and it was based on public information, his reading of stock charts or a reading from Nancy Reagan's astrologer, that is legal.

[fleur-de-lisa]

7. K&R

[USALiberal]

8. We should do this for all of them! Nt

[malaise]

9. Agree - there's a very suspect OP

with no calls for the four ReTHUGS to resign.
Beware of lying liars.

[ffr]

12. +1

[ffr]

11. After 3+ years of GOP waterboarding, I don't see anything

Nada. If anything, Feinstein should be promoted & revered. After all, that's what the GOP is going to do to Burr and others.

Fire with fire. We need dems.

[JGug1]

33. Same As Republicans?

Absolutely not. She should be investigated, as the Republicans should also. If she is culpable, she goes. Same for the Republicans.

[ffr]

38. My memory isn't so short as to forget the horrors rePuticans have waged against middle America

Once we have a democratic supermajority, then my eyes will open again. Until then, fuck that!

[StarfishSaver]

13. Thank you

[iluvtennis]

14. + agree - don't Franken her. We are 47 Dems to 53 rethugs in the Senate now. nt

[Harker]

15. Franken as a verb...

It had to be.

[The Magistrate]

17. Senator Feinstein Should Apologize, And Donate Proceeds To Medical Charities

She should not resign.

Demand resignation of Republicans with full-throat howls and bitter denunciation and ignore or laugh at any whimpering 'whataboutism' charging hypocrisy.

DO NOT DO THE ENEMY'S WORK FOR HIM!!!

Righteous posturing is what will sap our strength and increase theirs. This is not a game where purity counts.

"The only good Republicans I ever saw are dead."

[Tommy_Carcetti]

19. You're back!

Welcome back, my friend.

[The Magistrate]

22. For A Bit At Least, Sir

Glad to see you still around.

"World goin' one way, people another."

[Tommy_Carcetti]

23. You were an invaluable ally back when DU was overrun by Russian disinfo back in 2014-15.

If only more people knew back then what they would all too soon learn later...

[The Magistrate]

28. Thank You, Sir --- We Did Our Best

I still recommend to all Orwell's 'Notes on Nationalism'....

https://www.orwellfoundation.com/the-orwell-foundation/orwell/essays-and-other-works/notes-on-nationalism/

[wryter2000]

20. Also

Is there any evidence she was warning donors and not the public?

[yaesu]

21. We need to do this for all accused but my feelings are and always have been that when you take

office, congress or president, you shouldn't be buying, trading stocks.

[Demsrule86]

24. Feinstein lost money and you should include the relevant info in this post. It is also in a blind

trust.

[rzemanfl]

25. If these are the facts, please source and put in an OP. n/t

[Ms. Toad]

31. Two different things -

HER trusts are in a blind trust. She does not control purchases or sales and, as far as I know, there were no relevant sales of her assets by the trustee.

HIS sales have to be reported to congress, which she did. She does not control his sales of his personal investments. She didn't attend the meeting at which the information was disclosed, and no semi-intelligent investor would sell off shares of a biotech company on news of a coming pandemic.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/dianne-feinstein-3-senate-colleagues-sold-off-stocks-before-coronavirus-crash-reports

[Blue_true]

47. You last sentence, right on the money. In particular not an investor that lives in biotech land

and is worth several hundred million.

[PatSeg]

26. Yes, I agree

[MontanaMama]

27. Kick.

When we know better, we should do better.

[Ohioboy]

30. Let's all keep information like this near the top where people can see it and refer to it

I think it's important to fight this whole notion that "both parties do it", and that's there's no difference.

[JGug1]

32. Feinstein

What you say about Feinstein is appropriate and correct but it is also true for the Republicans. Now, of course, we here, are rooting for them to be proved guilty and Feinstein proved innocent.

[Salviati]

34. This is they key here:

she wasn't downplaying the virus to her constituents like Burr and his buddies. The Democrats have been calling for Trump and the Republicans to take this seriously while the GOP kept its mouths shut or echoed the Democratic Hoax bullshit.

It's not that these republicans sold stock, it's that they sold their stock while lying to the American public about how much of a big deal this was going to be.

[paleotn]

35. It's a whole lot to do about nothing it seems.

Normal stock trading in my mind....

on edit... see first reply in the thread...

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100213135664

[PatrickforO]

36. Feinstein has a blind trust, so is exonerated. n/t

[JustAnotherGen]

37. Agree

It's bullshit. And she should NOT step down, resign - anything. I don't care who did what to Franken and when -

Have we NOT learned a lesson from that?

The People of California Reserve the right to vote her out, or keep her in. Duncan Hunter got to stay until proven guilty in a court of law - right?


So does she.

[warmfeet]

39. Quit so.

Facts are good things. We need to know what they are before proceeding. This is always true.

[ChiTownDenny]

40. Agreed.

But anyone who profited from inside information needs to be held accountable.

[Dios Mio]

41. Facts

In today’s reality facts aren’t necessary.
(apparently)

[rogue emissary]

42. K&R w/ a side of facts from the Senator.

Link to tweet

During my Senate career I’ve held all assets in a blind trust of which I have no control. Reports that I sold any assets are incorrect, as are reports that I was at a January 24 briefing on coronavirus, which I was unable to attend.


Under Senate rules I report my husband's financial transactions. I have no input into his decisions. My husband in January and February sold shares of a cancer therapy company. This company is unrelated to any work on the coronavirus and the sale was unrelated to the situation.

They also lost money on the sale.

[we can do it]

43. Yes. And ignore the trolls.

[stopdiggin]

44. Yes. Particularly when the "story" is just flat out WRONG

because things like that matter.
(And, incidentally .. they matter whether you're a Republican or a Democrat. There are several Rs that have been smeared .. just as unjustly .. with this story as well.)

[jimlup]

45. I give her the benifit of the doubt for only one reason....

She's a dem. She isn't on the take. It is that simple.

[Blue_true]

46. She sold a biotech stock when the logical thing would have been to buy more.

She has to explain what happened. But one possibility is that she had ordered her financial advisers to sell any stock that might profit from a national emergency that she would be part of dealing with - that is the only reason why a person as rich as she is would have a potentially valuable stock sold near a low.