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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsRomney/Rove desperately seeking "game-changer" daily.
Today the talking point is trying to drag the President into the teacher's strike in Chicago.
Yesterday, Ryan tried to tie the President to the gas prices, saying that "the President has been working to keep the gas prices high."
Every day, they seem to scan the news or create their own news, in a effort to get a game-changer.
So is Rove losing his touch??? Why isn't anything sticking? There hasn't even been talk of Rove's traditional October Surprise this time. All the hundreds of millions spent by the Koch, Crossroads, Adelson, and they're trailing badly. Nothing seems to stick. Could it be that Romney is just that unlikable? Could no amount of money make people want to vote for him?
bluestateguy
(44,173 posts)If you try too hard to create a game changing moment you will, by making the game worse for your side.
applegrove
(118,683 posts)Last edited Mon Sep 10, 2012, 09:43 PM - Edit history (1)
at the convention. People like gravitas. And there certainly is none of that on the right. Why today I saw Romney bring up Ronald Reagan and Tip O'Neil as examples of people working across the isle. How long ago was that? Twenty years.
LiberalFighter
(50,950 posts)applegrove
(118,683 posts)aint_no_life_nowhere
(21,925 posts)and crazy glue a snapping turtle shell to his forehead. I think that could be a game changer.
hifiguy
(33,688 posts)Fozzledick
(3,860 posts)Volaris
(10,272 posts)Gul Dukat is ranked as one of the nastiest, meanest, most down-and-dirty Sci-Fi villians of all time.
(on Edit, from the Star Trek Wiki)---
Dukat played a versatile role throughout the series and was often a nuanced character. In the words of Deep Space Nine co-executive producer Ronald D. Moore:
"I don't think of him as being completely evil through and through ... He CAN be charming. He CAN be generous. He CAN do the right thing. All of that somehow makes his 'evil' actions all the more despicable, because we know that there was the potential in there for him to be a better person." Ultimately, despite the character's versatility, "Dukat is a bad guy. A very bad guy."[2] Indeed, StarTrek.com describes him as "the most complex and fully developed villain in Star Trek history"
And he looks just like Mittens. It's just too perfect.
uponit7771
(90,347 posts)C_U_L8R
(45,003 posts)And they will forever resent you for it.
.........Truism that Mitt never heard of.
randome
(34,845 posts)He is not in charge of the GOP. Hasn't been for a long time.
Guy Whitey Corngood
(26,501 posts)Angry Dragon
(36,693 posts)Andy823
(11,495 posts)I don't really think Rove is trying to hard to get Romney elected. Rove has always been very close to the Bush clan, and Jeb is waiting for 2016 to run. By then he hopes the memory of W. has faded, and he can get the nomination. Now if Romney were to win, that would not work for Jeb. Rove knows this and I honestly think the whole thing is about simply getting Romney out of their hair by giving him his shot at the WH, just like they did with McCain!
sandyshoes17
(657 posts)He's being set up like McCain. Clear the path, if Rmoney loses he won't run again, another down. He's thinking about himself.
quaker bill
(8,224 posts)that they have spent 4 years calling President Obama everything imaginable. The President on the other hand has just stood there, smiling, not responding in kind, acting rational and reasonable, consistently willing to talk with anyone who seriously wanted to work on problems. People have learned to dismiss their BS because it has been consistently baseless and repeated too often.
The people who believe Mittens and Rove, pretty much to a person would have believed them just the same 4 years ago. Their delusion lies in believing they could act the way they have over the last 4 years,and retain any credibility outside their own base. As far as their base is concerned, they don't need credibility, because they are saying what their base wants to hear.
The cried wolf once too often. (actually 1000's of times too often) The polls have consistently said that basically no one is impressed, the only ones buying it were sold a long time ago.
randome
(34,845 posts)If you fight fire with fire, everyone gets burned. You never let your enemy think he got one in. And the more frustrated Republicans get, the crazier they behave. After a while, it's obvious which side is on top.
quaker bill
(8,224 posts)away from them. They simply cannot speak reasonably and not sound like they are potentially agreeing with him. See Rmoney and the pre-existing conditions flap. It is simply reasonable when people pay insurance premiums most of their lives, that they can count on coverage when they get sick. This is why in theory you pay the premuims.
Rmoney simply agreeing with the notion that people should be able to keep coverage when they get sick, sounds to the right like he is agreeing with Obamacare, which in this case is simply sane. Rmoney had to back away from that really fast. Sanity and simple fairness is far too close to agreeing with President Obama, and therefore must be rejected.
Voice for Peace
(13,141 posts)This is full of excellent advice!
You wanna get even? Get cool..
I wanna bust! Bust cool.
tjdee
(18,048 posts)Ryan AND Romney put out statements on this, supporting Rahm Emanuel if you can believe it.
smh
smaug
(230 posts)and the reTHUGlikkklan candidates supported me, I think I would pull back and reconsider my positions. But, the terrorist SOB's ego is too large.
It's time for Chicago to have a complete 'throw the bum out' election.
leftynyc
(26,060 posts)You sound absolutely deranged. Are you really calling Rahm Emanuel a terrorist?
Brother Buzz
(36,444 posts)Say, to the Antarctic to get to the bottom of things.
Mayberry Machiavelli
(21,096 posts)lunatica
(53,410 posts)He slithers from one side to another so much that it's becoming self-evident that he won't take a stand they can feel he'll commit to. The Teabaggers must be wondering if he'll turn on them and cater to liberals at this point. They like people who take a stand behind their agenda and stick with it no matter what.
They don't like shift changers. No one likes them in politics.
Curtland1015
(4,404 posts)The media started it. THIS could be a game changer. THAT could be a game changer.
It got to the point that it infected DU a little.
"OMG! Did you hear Obama called Sarah Palin a pig!? This could be a GAME CHANGER!"
Zalatix
(8,994 posts)morningfog
(18,115 posts)zellie
(437 posts)liberal N proud
(60,336 posts)Remember facts will not dictate their campaign.
sandyshoes17
(657 posts)They are in trouble for sure.
RKP5637
(67,111 posts)what it is, a game of lies, misinformation and deception. Real issues get lost in the cloud of bullshit. I guess they clearly exist, but I don't know many people who love all of the negativity, lies and hate ads.
The curtain is being pulled back a little at a time, and some are starting to see the "wizards of hatred and fear" at work.
magical thyme
(14,881 posts)If Romney wins, Rove's bff, Jeb, is out of '16.
As far as money, as Meg Whitman demonstrated so clearly in CA, with some people, more money = more exposure = fewer votes. Yes, Romney is that unlikeable. The more people see of him, the less they like him or the more they dislike him. Same with HRH Queen Ann.
wilt the stilt
(4,528 posts)I have always maintained that he is overrated. What did he really win that took "genius". He won a lot of elections in the south for republicans as the south was going republican. He lost in 2000 and he won in 2004 when he had incumbency and we were in the middle of a war. He barely won in 2004. Kerry and Gore were no goo candidates.
Now, if you want to see great campaign guys it is Plouffe and Axelrod. They took an African American and beat Hilary and the entire democratic machine. They then beat McCain and finally they are kicking the shit out of Romney and they have neutralized the economy as a message. This is genius.
Ganja Ninja
(15,953 posts)BlueStreak
(8,377 posts)It really seems to me that if God didn't want Obama to do that, he would smite Obama himself.
Oh wait a Minute. Obama isn't doing that anyway.
Seems pretty ironic a Mormon would appeal to Christians on a matter like this. If I were Romney, I wouldn't want to attract too much attention to my magic underoos. I'm not sure Jesus would approve.
Xolodno
(6,395 posts)...they spent the last 3 1/2 years mudslinging at this president. Even when Solyandra broke, it vacated the news seen rather quickly. That could have easily been used in this campaign and damaging....but because they cried wolf so much...no one is bothering to listen to them. Sucks to be them.