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Hi Duers. This seems to be making the rounds- got it from two RWer relatives in that Obama-hatin' red state , Missouri. I received this link from Military.com and it's this video of the weasels that claim something or other about Obama taking credit instead of the Military for killing Osama Bin Laden. Or something.
http://www.military.com/video/forces/special-operations-forces/dishonorable-disclosures-full-length/1789529826001/#.UC_euwCWJLk.facebook
I'm in the midst of some serious work here; I don't have time to debunk this , but I know it's bullcrap- can someone drop some links for me? A simple Google search in several iterations does not do it
And who the F are these guys behind Military.com?
Angry Dragon
(36,693 posts)the aircraft carrier return to berth so he could land on it with a HUGE sign saying MISSION ACCOMPLISHED
Tennessee Gal
(6,160 posts)The "Special Operations OPSEC Education Fund", employing the military acronym for "operational security," includes members who have been active in Republican and right-leaning Tea Party campaigns.
A former member of the Navy SEAL commandos, Scott Taylor, who ran and lost as a Republican candidate for Congress in Virginia in 2010, is identified as the group's president.
http://www.military.com/daily-news/2012/08/16/ex-specops-troops-slam-obama-over-bin-laden-leaks.html
Capn Sunshine
(14,378 posts)They've co-opted a great site with excellent resources by stealing the opsec part of he name. Fuckers.
Raster
(20,998 posts)From Wikipedia:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military.com
Military.com is the website created by Military Advantage to be a portal for U.S. military members. In early 2004, Military Advantage was purchased by Monster Worldwide. The company's main revenue streams are advertising, military-themed products and lead generation for military recruiters.
The website was founded by Christopher Michel in 1999 and went live in 2000.
Military Advantage's advisory board includes two former members of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, as well as other academic and business leaders. President of Military.com, Admiral Terry "T" McCreary served as the Chief of Naval Information (CHINFO) on the Joint Chiefs of Staff.
Military.com, which claims more than 10 million members, also owns Fredsplace.org, Defensetech.org, Milblogging.com, DoDBuzz.com and MilitaryBenefits.com.
Christopher Michel (from Wikipedia):
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christopher_Michel
Christopher Michel is a photographer, investor & entrepreneur. He is the founder of Affinity Labs and Military.com and currently runs Nautilus Ventures, a seed venture fund. In 1999, he founded Military.com, an online portal for servicemembers, veterans and their families. In 2006, Michel founded Affinity Labs, which runs a portfolio of online professional communities. The first, launched in March 2007, was PoliceLink.com. Both Military.com and Affinity Labs were purchased by Monster Worldwide.
Nautilus Ventures portfolio companies include Palantir, Castlight Health, Alliance Health, Peek, Tinker, Verbify, BranchOut, Ne Timeas, HealthCPA, GoodReads, Bespoke Innovations, Course Hero, Verbify, CR Reality, Pangea 3, RelateIQ, Flour & Water, Park Tavern, Ruby Ribbon, etc. Michel serves as a Director of International Data Group, Dale Carnegie, Kixeye and Castlight Health. He's also a Trustee of the Marine Corps University Foundation. He previously served on the boards of the USO, U.S. Naval Institute (USNI), the USS Arizona Memorial Fund, and the U.S. Navy Memorial Foundation. He was also an Entrepreneur-in-Residence at Harvard Business School during the 2010-2011 school year.
Prior to his business career, Michel served as a Naval Flight Officer in the United States Navy. While on active duty, Michel flew as a Navigator, Tactical Coordinator and Mission Commander aboard the P-3C Orion aircraft. Following his operational tour, he worked in the Pentagon as Aide to the Chief of the Naval Reserve.
Michel serves on the oversight committee for the Division on Earth and Life Studies (DELS), one of six study divisions of the National Academies. He is also an advisor to the Center for Investigative Reporting (CIR), the nation's oldest nonprofit investigative news organization, and the Oxford Internet Institute (oii) at the University of Oxford.
<snip>
Michel earned his commission from the NROTC program at the University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign, where he graduated Phi Beta Kappa and was selected as the distinguished naval graduate. He also holds an MBA from the Harvard Business School and an honorary doctorate from Tiffin University. Michel was named a Henry Crown Fellow of the Aspen Institute and serves as a life member of the Council on Foreign Relations.
Capn Sunshine
(14,378 posts)scary RW money cats are the worst , both to do busiess with and as a threat to the community at large.
Raster
(20,998 posts)Lasher
(27,597 posts)The following three claims are made in the same 22 minute video:
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2012/aug/24/special-operations-opsec-education-fund/group-says-obama-administration-willfully-leaked-e/
"Days after the (Osama bin Laden) raid, Hollywood was invited into the White House so that they could receive a briefing" that revealed intelligence sources and methods - MOSTLY FALSE
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2012/aug/20/special-operations-opsec-education-fund/group-says-obama-revealed-secret-information-holl/
Group blames Obama for linking CIA to a Pakistani doctor - FALSE
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2012/aug/22/special-operations-opsec-education-fund/group-blames-obama-linking-cia-pakistani-doctor/
Capn Sunshine
(14,378 posts)Thanks for this.
Tennessee Gal
(6,160 posts)video: http://live.wsj.com/video/president-obama-full-speech-on-bin-laden-killing/B8F0786A-37F2-49A9-B9FB-8E7064177B0C.html#!B8F0786A-37F2-49A9-B9FB-8E7064177B0C
transcript: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/05/02/osama-bin-laden-dead-obama-speech-video-transcript_n_856122.html
In the transcript Obama talks about the decision making process (any President would have had the final say) to proceed with the raid to get Bin Laden. He most definitely gave our intelligence and military professionals praise for their actions.
Part of the transcript:
"Tonight, we give thanks to the countless intelligence and counterterrorism professionals who've worked tirelessly to achieve this outcome. The American people do not see their work, nor know their names. But tonight, they feel the satisfaction of their work and the result of their pursuit of justice.
We give thanks for the men who carried out this operation, for they exemplify the professionalism, patriotism, and unparalleled courage of those who serve our country. And they are part of a generation that has borne the heaviest share of the burden since that September day."
Number_9
(32 posts)... useful for those entering the Service. They also have military videos and pictures and a forum.
Any problems with the video should be taken up with the OPSEC group. Military.com is just the dumping ground and the google shows the clip on multiple other sites.
Capn Sunshine
(14,378 posts)lot of impressionable people read that.
Lasher
(27,597 posts)With a lot of sinister music and action-movie graphics, these retired special-operations guys talk for 22 minutes about all the things Obama did and said that they believe undermined operational security and put lives at risk. Theres even a guy in shadow and altered voice to protect his identity. If Jason Bourne had made a cameo I wouldnt have been surprised.
Scott Taylor, identified as a Navy Seal during Operation Iraqi Freedom, was among the many expressing grave concern about the presidents actions.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-partisan/post/no-easy-day-for-obama-critics-in-dishonorable-disclosures/2012/08/23/861dcf2c-ed12-11e1-9ddc-340d5efb1e9c_blog.html
SunsetDreams
(8,571 posts)Conduct Unbecoming RE: (OPSec, Right Wing Group Trying to Swiftboat Obama)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021159075
Opsec Education Fund Inc.: From heroes to liars swiftboating a President
http://www.examiner.com/article/opsec-education-fund-inc-from-heroes-to-liars-swiftboating-a-president
If Obama shouldn't get credit for bin Laden mission, who should? A look at partisan criticism
http://www.allvoices.com/contributed-news/12813133-if-pres-obama-shouldnt-take-credit-for-killing-bin-laden-who-should-a-look-at-the-partisan-criticism
Why The New SEAL Ad Is As Outrageous As The Obama Leaks It's Attacking
http://www.businessinsider.com/these-seal-attack-ads-are-as-outrageous-as-the-obamas-leaks-theyre-attacking-2012-8
The Worst-Ever Attempt at Swiftboating
http://prospect.org/article/worst-ever-attempt-swiftboating
Are 'Swift Boat' attacks on Obama bogus?
http://www.cnn.com/2012/08/17/opinion/bergen-obama-swift-boat/index.html
(Peter Bergen was the only journalist allowed in Bin Laden Compound, excellent read)
This Former SEAL Attacking Obama's 'Leaks' Has A Very Big Secret Of His Own
http://www.businessinsider.com/obama-leak-attackers-turn-out-to-be-talkers-themselves-2012-8
Joint Chiefs chairman 'disappointed' by Swiftboating II
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/08/22/1122899/-Joint-Chiefs-chairman-disappointed-by-Swiftboating-II
Who is Former Navy SEAL Benjamin Smith?
http://www.whoisformernavysealbenjaminsmith.com/
(He was also Andrew Breitbart bodyguard, huge member of Tea Party, and supposedly responsible for getting several Tea Party members elected to congress)
In Facebook postings, OPSEC spokesman rips Communist-in-Chief Hussein Mao-bama
http://thecable.foreignpolicy.com/posts/2012/08/21/in_facebook_postings_opsec_spokesman_rips_communist_in_chief_hussein_mao_bama
Fact check: Conservative group selectively edits President Obamas words on Osama bin Laden
http://www.barackobama.com/truth-team/entry/fact-check-conservative-group-selectively-edits-president-obamas-words-on-o/
Group blames Obama for linking CIA to a Pakistani doctor
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2012/aug/22/special-operations-opsec-education-fund/group-blames-obama-linking-cia-pakistani-doctor/
Group says Obama revealed secret information to Hollywood filmmakers
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2012/aug/20/special-operations-opsec-education-fund/group-says-obama-revealed-secret-information-holl/
Founder Of Obama Swift Boating Group: Im A Birther
http://thinkprogress.org/security/2012/08/17/709231/founder-of-obama-swift-boating-group-im-a-birther/
Group Attacking Obama On Leaks Has Deep GOP Ties
http://livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/entry/group-attacking-obama-on-leaks-has-deep-gop
Swiftboating II: Republicans angry that Bin Laden is dead
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/08/16/1120790/-Swiftboating-II-Republicans-angry-that-Bin-Laden-is-dead
Snopes
http://www.snopes.com/politics/military/navyseal.asp
There are plenty of sources out there that have debunked these frauds but those should get you started.
Capn Sunshine
(14,378 posts)Thats exactly what I couldn't find!
SunsetDreams
(8,571 posts)RedSpartan
(1,693 posts)Not crediting Obama for killing bin Laden because he only authorized the mission but didn't pull the trigger is like not blaming bin Laden for 9/11 because he only authorized the attack but didn't fly the planes.
treestar
(82,383 posts)Another comeback I had was that that meant they were not blaming President Carter for the failed hostage rescue mission.
tinymontgomery
(2,584 posts)I'll be keeping that one.