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Recently, MSNBC host Chris Matthews had quite a tense segment with RNC Chair Reince Priebus, during which he accused Republicans of playing the race card. In particular, he pointed to Mitt Romneys joke about never having been asked for his birth certificate. In a blog post, Bill Maher lauded Matthews taking on Priebus, while arguing that the likes of Tom Brokaw encourage birtherism.
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While Matthews launched into a vehement disagreement with Priebus, Maher said, Brokaw chimed in that he disagreed with Chris, and thought it was just an awkward joke, adding that Republican leaders should have corrected the record when people started calling Obama a Muslim and a socialist, but both sides do it.
Calling out Brokaws bullshit, Maher said its different because half of Democrats dont believe Romney was born in a different country. That was the whole point of Romneys joke, wasnt it? Maher asked. Nobodys ever asked to see my birth certificate yeah, because youre a white guy, you dipshit, and youre not the victim of that kind of racism.
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http://www.mediaite.com/online/bill-maher-tom-brokaw-championing-balance-over-objectivity-aids-birtherism/
Zoeisright
(8,339 posts)I don't know if he was bought off or if he has dementia, but he's been an apologist for repukes for a long time. He stinks. He's one of the main parts of the problem that for some reason, "journalists" seem to think that the truth is in the middle of two positions. When, almost every time, one side is right and the other is wrong. I blame HIM for Bush/Cheney.
Bozita
(26,955 posts)Whisp
(24,096 posts)otherwise he's as stupid as a bag of hammers. Never did get why he's supposed to be some hotshot whatever he is.
freshwest
(53,661 posts)Response to Zoeisright (Reply #1)
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abelenkpe
(9,933 posts)" If every single journalist just simply labeled birtherism what it obviously is racism the cancer wouldnt have infected half the party."
I think it's far more than half of those that still call themselves republican.
speedoo
(11,229 posts)Cha
(297,322 posts)Logically heaping on him exactly what he deserves. Tom Brokaw is a big part of the Problem as he sits back and Disingenuously says: "both sides do it". WTF, Brokaw..give us an example..why the fuck should we take your word? You've rendered yourself UnFReakingReliable.
7wo7rees
(5,128 posts)Hissyspit
(45,788 posts)Brokaw thinks he's so smart. It's not smart to deliberately or ignorantly engage in false equivalence.
SheilaT
(23,156 posts)I'm just waiting for the justification of almost every single sentence that Paul Ryan speaks is a falsehood as "both sides do it."
No, both sides don't do it. One side lies and lies and lies, and then acts surprised that anyone cares because, after all, both sides do it.
They need to be held accountable for their lies.
Some say the earth is round. Others hold that it's flat. The truth is obviously somewhere in between. Yeah, right.
chknltl
(10,558 posts)......not round like a Domino's pizza! Not sure why it seems to rankle some of them but it does.
SheilaT
(23,156 posts)I will have to remember that line.
freshwest
(53,661 posts)My freedom as a woman, equal protection under the laws and saving lives that the GOP doesn't. Hearing that, I know the speaker must not expect to be affected by the GOP's libertarian philosophy, where those who have wealth, power and rights now can keep them and the rest of us can just shag off. My lack of freedom or equality under the law won't affect them. So we part ways there.
Suji to Seoul
(2,035 posts)and all arguments have equal validity.
Somehow, I don't understand the bullshit attitudes we have as a people today. . .but I'm tired of being told that Democrats do the same thing Republicans do.
I'm tired of Alan Grayson being compared to assholes like Michele Bachmann and Steve King (and to a lesser extent, Peter King). Grayson uses facts, logic and reality. Those three use their ass as a mouth piece.
freshwest
(53,661 posts)There is nothing in the Democratic Party to equal the idiocy and bigotry of the GOP. I'm sick of it.
mfcorey1
(11,001 posts)Whining Joe, who show he often appears on to buffer for Joe when one his guest is kicking his ass.
jp11
(2,104 posts)allowing those news/journalism people who can't or won't be bothered to tell the truth to just pass the buck and blame both sides.
Then they can sit back and continue to tell the message dictated by the RW corporate media with their conservative cry baby bias about how they are always the victims of mean democrats, liberals, and progressives who are actually anti-american socialists/communists/marxist/anarchists whenever they challenge their oversimplification of issues if not outright lies.
Best way to make a buck with the least amount of effort is to blame both sides and let the corporate media narrate the direction of news you are supposed to relay to the people instead of actually investigating it yourself and telling the truth. It also helps keep you off the shit list of the RW who'd label you mean nasty divisive, partisan, socialist/communist/leftist/anarchists who get lumped in with the RW nutjobs who dream of fighting off the US government when it comes for their freedom, god or guns.
You only get to avoid being tossed into the fictional pot of the extreme hard crazy 'left' if you bow to whatever the RW's agenda is and only if they don't feel threatened by you at the time.
mgarr
(41 posts)The argument of "equivalency"--that both right and left are guilty of the same lies--drives me crazy.
And Maher is correct.
It is the "respected mainstream media" who have allowed this argument of equivalency to prevail.
A lie is a lie. Lies can be found on both sides.
The magnitude of the lying garbage spewed by the right has no equivalency on the left.
Time to combat this equivalency argument by demanding of the mainstream media that it cease.
I remember Murrow. I remember Cronkite. And you, Mr. Brokaw, are neither.
newspeak
(4,847 posts)we were discussing politics one time and she came up with the "both sides do it" repug BS. I informed her that both sides don't do it in the same degree. When one side does it a little and the other side does it a hell of a lot more, then both sides do not do it the same. And that's the problem of making such a statement, when one side has proven to be more corrupt, morally bankrupt and underhanded than the other. She didn't say anything after that.
truebrit71
(20,805 posts)..or whatever that was called...
Both sides DON'T do it....that's the whole fucking point...
BumRushDaShow
(129,096 posts)and I was surprised that he excoriated his fellow (probably including retired) anchors on resorting to the "both sides do it" excuse.
porphyrian
(18,530 posts)Javaman
(62,530 posts)only because he has basically outlived all the others or had been railroaded.
He has the grossly misplaced arrogance of "elder statemen" in journalism. When in fact he hasn't done a bit of real journalism in years. He's just phoning it in now and it shows.
indepat
(20,899 posts)dip-shit remarks other than even more dip-shit remarks? The "both sides do it" remark shows how delusional or chicanerously unfair and unbalanced Brokaw's views are.
lindysalsagal
(20,692 posts)He's like mental turpentine in a morass of irrationality, minimalizations, excuses, and distractions.
WillyT
(72,631 posts)Vietnameravet
(1,085 posts)One think that really pisses me..among a whole shit load of others..are these lazy bastards who dont bother to look at an issue and really get to the facts and so they take the easy way out and simply say "they all do it"
So easy, so seemingly objective and so seemingly fair.. and so much bullshit...
"They" dont all go around doing the things Repubs do..
I could spend another ten pages repeating the hateful divisive things these repubs have done and the damage they have caused... but everyone here knows what they are so no sense in wasting my time....'
orpupilofnature57
(15,472 posts)Walk away
(9,494 posts)however, in the "News" business if you are a "News" person and not a commentator you are supposed to (ideally) not take sides.
To you and I that is no excuse to report lies and truths as equal parts of the news but they do. I have friends at MSNBC who are life long Liberals who never even express their political views outside of their closest family and very closest friends.
tavernier
(12,392 posts)and beat his own chest with his greatest generation boasts. But excuse me... wasn't it his generation that sent the young men of my generation into Viet Nam to be slaughtered like lambs? I just can't listen to him anymore.
LiberalFighter
(50,950 posts)That all journalists and reporters don't like to be objective and honest.
That all journalists and reporters are bias and corrupt.