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I'm not interested in revisionists telling me what I'm supposed to remember and glossing over the things that they'd rather I forget.
The proper memorial is in my own mind.
I've been to the top of the WTC, I've worked in the Pentagon for 7 1/2 years and I've been through Pennsylvania more times than I can count.
I have me own way of remembering that day.
KarenS
(4,079 posts)I'm sewing today so it will be A&E on for background noise.
BeyondGeography
(39,374 posts)Blue_Tires
(55,445 posts)ananda
(28,866 posts)nt
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Graybeard
(6,996 posts)I've watched two mediocre 1930s films
on TCM already. More to come along with
the crossword puzzle.
No disrespect on my part. I prefer to grieve
without all of the self-serving chatter.
valerief
(53,235 posts)lunatica
(53,410 posts)The way Bush and Cheney and Rumsfeld and Condi turned it into a tool to go to war has always made me ill. I stand with the victim's families who said, "Not in our name".
Bonobo
(29,257 posts)They UNANIMOUSLY just knew that OBL did it with no real reason to have such confidence.
Speculation? Sure, ok, but they just knew it.
I remember thinking 'this is odd' even at the time.
Lydia Leftcoast
(48,217 posts)And when they "found" a car in the Boston airport parking lot with a Qur'an and a flight manual in Arabic, I thought, "This sounds like something Robert Ludlum would dream up as his hero was being framed for crimes he didn't commit."
The magic asbestos passport that surprisingly survived two building collapses in which the salvagers found no office furniture, no filing cabinets, no computers, nothing larger than a telephone keypad--that was another. Another Robert Ludlum touch.
ananda
(28,866 posts)It's pretty amazing !
The missing Chinese VP
The flap between China and Japan over the East China Sea islands
Occupy activists forced from Hong Kong plaza
UN rights chief denounces violations in Syria
US teachers strike for second day in Chicago
Somali MPs elect Hassan Sheikh as president
The Chicago teachers' strike
And so much more...
http://www.aljazeera.com/
heaven05
(18,124 posts)for you. I never watch american MSM anymore. I stopped reading the NYT after they went full tilt boogie in favor of the bush monkey's INVASION of Iraq. NPR also, although I sneak car talk every once in a while. Got 300thou on my car, got to keep it running. Can't afford new or used. Our news media represents, now, one of the 14points pointing to a fascist takeover of government which started with Ronald Reagan and was finalized on 9/11.
Zoonart
(11,869 posts)I remember thinking, just after the second plane hit... I mean the thought came to me like someone whispering in my ear- this makes all their PNAC dreams come true. To this day I can't shake it.
glowing
(12,233 posts)This was in the days before I became more politically astute. I was just barely out of college, pissed off about science funding being cut and that Al Gore wasn't President, living and working in Charleston, SC at that time. My boyfriend, now husband, called me and told me to turn on the news. My roommate and I watched the towers burning, and then the collapse. People jumping from the building. People with soot/ dust all over them with tear streams running down their faces. People running, running, running. And that was my first instinctual thought like someone put it into my head... that Bush had something to do with killing those people.
And I'm not sure if anyone remembers, Bin Ladin first said he wasn't involved, then took full responsibility for it, and all the Bin Ladin family members were flown out of the country while the rest of America was stuck grounded wherever they were at for nearly a week.
Its one of those events that will never have the real answer because there was never an initial investigation. All the ruble and steel was picked up and shipped to China to be recycled. And they have never explained Tower 7 coming down. And really, 4 planes deviating flight plans all at once, and no interception on the same day of a massive NORAD simulation. Seems a bit to coincidental all of it all together.
On the other hand, its now seemingly been made into a "holiday" by the news media. I wouldn't be surprised in another 25 yrs if it didn't become a National holiday/ memorial day.
Anyway, I didn't even realize it was 9/11 until the radio mentioned it... I was more busy dealing with getting the kid to school and all. I think the killing of Bin Ladin, at least, brought the boogie man out of the closet to close that chapter.. whether he was dead before or did die then or even was behind it, at the very least, the man can no longer influence as much fear or terrorism. Its truly amazing to hear different people and their absolute fear about terrorism. My husband's grandmother was alway terrified when the media ratcheted up the crap or terror alerts. The woman is more likely to die of a natural cause in her own bed or be struck by lightening, than to ever be a victim of a terror attack. The terror resides more in the psyche of her mind. Its the reason they bring it up every year and seem to make a commemoration to the confusion, panic, and fear of an attack on our country. Going to war wasn't the "healing" the nation needed. And so many fell into the trap for vengeance...
Lydia Leftcoast
(48,217 posts)an all-classical station and the Current, which is sort like a college radio station. I can listen to the radio while working and not be bothered by either propaganda or advertisements (except during pledge drivers, of course).
existentialist
(2,190 posts)I would too except that generally do not watch television news anyway.
I get my news online and through old fashioned print media (newspapers and magazines).
Liberal_Stalwart71
(20,450 posts)mother earth
(6,002 posts)closeupready
(29,503 posts)K&R I have ZERO interest in rehashing, for the 11th time and for the fiscal benefit of news organizations, a day that was one of the worst in my life.
Ganja Ninja
(15,953 posts)There's something morbid about reliving 9/11/01 every year.
Viva_La_Revolution
(28,791 posts)SCVDem
(5,103 posts)I go back to work today!
All my MSNBC shows are DVRd so I will be FF through all the 9-11 stuff. Like religion, many of these memorials should be understated and personal, not huge productions of exploitation.
As far as a 60 Mil operating budget for a museum and rememberance, I just don't get it. Pearl Harbor FINALLY got an upgrade after years of neglect. Our record of maintaining memorials is dismal.
To work at the site with a plaque would be a commemoration. To have all the other stuff makes working here a constant reminder of a tragedy. I can't see spending my very limited vac and $ on being depressed visiting. Like Hotel California, overkill has numbed me to tune out 9-11.
America is nothing except a nation of going overboard on everything except the truth. We have insulted the victims with our over reaction from Iraq to the TSA, DHS to being illegally wiretapped.
With respects on this day.
HappyMe
(20,277 posts)There is a young woman sobbing now as she read her mother's name.
There are no commentators, no conspiracy theories being put forth. Just people grieving for their loved ones.
Moment of silence, 10:28.
TwilightGardener
(46,416 posts)a number of years, in sometimes crazy and harmful ways (from military engagements to banning songs to freedom fries). Certainly, people who actually were affected are entitled to view this day however they want or need to. I understand this probably isn't a popular sentiment, but I hate being expected to wallow in the grief-fest.
Lydia Leftcoast
(48,217 posts)The propagandistic manipulation of our emotions is so transparent that it makes me angry, and I don't need extra things to get angry about. I get my news from printed or online sources.
Smilo
(1,944 posts)hmm where are they now.
allan01
(1,950 posts)same.
Chipper Chat
(9,680 posts)Available in some big cities. It features all reruns of 50s & 60s TV shows. 10:30pm-Dick Van Dyke........11pm-Twilight Zone......11:30-Perry Mason you get the idea (and not many commercials). Love Johnny Crawford as a spokesman (he is still very cute at 65)
Chipper Chat
(9,680 posts)Still one of the best stories ever!
MrScorpio
(73,631 posts)All day
marble falls
(57,106 posts)sevenseas
(114 posts)And yet, I hear less about the Pennsylvania plane heroes than anything else. Those people literally CHOSE to give up their lives to prevent terrorists from getting to Washington. That's bravery. They weren't just people milling around, caught up in a disaster. They are the REAL HEROES.
Sorry for everyone involved, but I can't understand why the Pennsylvania plane crash is treated like an afterthought.