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SunSeeker

(51,705 posts)
Fri Mar 27, 2020, 01:22 AM Mar 2020

Trump Rejects New York's Plea For Ventilators: 'I Don't Believe You Need' That Many

President Donald Trump rejected calls from New York’s governor that the state needed tens of thousands of new ventilators to treat a mass of patients infected with the novel coronavirus, saying he didn’t believe those numbers were accurate.

“I have a feeling that a lot of the numbers that are being said in some areas are just bigger than they’re going to be,” Trump told Fox News’ Sean Hannity on Thursday night. “I don’t believe you need 40,000 or 30,000 ventilators. You know, you go into major hospitals sometimes, they’ll have two ventilators. And now all of a sudden they’re saying can we order 30,000 ventilators?”




The president’s statements came as public health officials declared the United States the leading country in terms of coronavirus cases with more than 81,300 infected. More than 1,000 people have been killed by the virus, many in New York, which has the worst outbreak in the nation.

New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo (D) warned Thursday that the state’s hospitals could soon be overwhelmed with patients afflicted with the COVID-19 disease, noting more than 5,200 people had been hospitalized, including 1,290 in intensive care.

https://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_5e7d651cc5b6256a7a27c911
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Trump Rejects New York's Plea For Ventilators: 'I Don't Believe You Need' That Many (Original Post) SunSeeker Mar 2020 OP
"I believe he is being ass.... BigmanPigman Mar 2020 #1
Thank you! Keep those calls coming. SunSeeker Mar 2020 #6
I guess he has insider knowledge?? young_at_heart Mar 2020 #2
He's a stable genius. SunSeeker Mar 2020 #3
LOL! n/t EndlessWire Mar 2020 #14
Nice! DarthDem Mar 2020 #27
He is killing us slowly.... FarPoint Mar 2020 #4
He's basically declaring war on part of the country. Crunchy Frog Mar 2020 #5
YES! I wonder if the trumpVirus will give them Cha Mar 2020 #9
Yes and he's been doing it for some time Maven Mar 2020 #12
And DENVERPOPS Mar 2020 #18
+1, we're fighting Trump and the virus uponit7771 Mar 2020 #29
Is it clear enough yet? 2naSalit Mar 2020 #7
I hope NY & anywhere can get ventilators from somewhere Cha Mar 2020 #8
What a slime ball Rollo Mar 2020 #10
"Two ventilators" per large hospitals? He's nuts! procon Mar 2020 #11
He's not mad at Cuomo and Bloomberg Aquaria Mar 2020 #31
+1. What you wrote. Do the simple math. Delmette2.0 Mar 2020 #36
Sometimes its like we are watching a movie and im just waiting BootinUp Mar 2020 #13
50 seconds was enough for me brettdale Mar 2020 #15
What will it take? Bodies piling up and Americans watching in horror LuckyLib Mar 2020 #16
Yep, and then he'll say it "snuck up on us" and "no one could have known" we'd need so many. SunSeeker Mar 2020 #22
Trump to NY, fuck you. Aviation Pro Mar 2020 #17
Irony is if Hannity needs one. JohnnyRingo Mar 2020 #19
Hannity probably already bought one for himself. SunSeeker Mar 2020 #21
Seize them. Aquaria Mar 2020 #32
Good idea! They're not being used, so why not? SunSeeker Mar 2020 #33
Once again, Trump's "gut" is the final authority on the subject. SergeStorms Mar 2020 #20
Cuomo should publicly invite tRump to visit Queens Sunriser13 Mar 2020 #23
trump is pure evil. he probably would laugh while watching people die mucifer Mar 2020 #26
Has there ever been a more evil, stupid, incompetent president in the history of this nation? smirkymonkey Mar 2020 #24
Yet his approval ratings keep going up. musicblind Mar 2020 #25
Coming from the same serial liar who claimed ... duforsure Mar 2020 #28
he's a mass murderer eShirl Mar 2020 #30
who gives a fuck what you 'believe' don? spanone Mar 2020 #34
I already hate the people that did this to us. Afromania Mar 2020 #35

BigmanPigman

(51,627 posts)
1. "I believe he is being ass....
Fri Mar 27, 2020, 01:30 AM
Mar 2020

aspirational about the outcome...", Dr. Fauci said on CNN about tRump. I heard, "I believe he is being an ass..." . I guess my mind is two steps ahead of my ears.

I just got unlimited long distance back today after none for over a month. Look out GOP, I'm back! I will be calling non-stop since emails just don't do it for me.

SunSeeker

(51,705 posts)
6. Thank you! Keep those calls coming.
Fri Mar 27, 2020, 01:37 AM
Mar 2020

That "they don't need it" claim will live in infamy, like his "it will go down to zero...by April...like a miracle" claim.

Thousands of preventable deaths will be suffered by New York, and many other states, because Trump is not taking this seriously.

Crunchy Frog

(26,636 posts)
5. He's basically declaring war on part of the country.
Fri Mar 27, 2020, 01:36 AM
Mar 2020

He's attacking civilians by withholding lifesaving medical equipment. We're now at the point of true civil war.

Cha

(297,670 posts)
9. YES! I wonder if the trumpVirus will give them
Fri Mar 27, 2020, 01:54 AM
Mar 2020

to the Gov of Florida when that state needs so Many?

Maven

(10,533 posts)
12. Yes and he's been doing it for some time
Fri Mar 27, 2020, 02:55 AM
Mar 2020

And his cult has been cheering him on.

And there are people who really think we can go back to being one unified nation.

DENVERPOPS

(8,845 posts)
18. And
Fri Mar 27, 2020, 03:20 AM
Mar 2020

PUTIN IS LAUGHING HIS ASS OFF AND STILL GIVING THE ORDERS TO TRUMP. PUTIN IS ORDERING TRUMP TO DESTROY AMERICA.

Putin has some embarrassing pictures/videos or criminal materials on Trump and many of the other Republicans in the Senate, and elsewhere in his administration..... Trump and others are being blackmailed into DESTROYING THE ENTIRE NATION, versus the personal humiliation of their petty reputations. If they all weren't Psychopathic Narcissists, it wouldn't have worked. Putin did his homework.......

Hillary? said: "It's a huge right wing conspiracy". She wasn't wrong.

Pelosi? said: "All roads lead to Putin". She wasn't wrong.

We Are So Fucked.........BEND OVER AMERICA, you ain't seen nothing yet. Even if there wasn't a deadly virus, the lives of the 99% will be screwed over forever more.......

The biggest problem is that there are 50+ million TrumpHumpers out there that are brainwashed into thinking Trump and Republicans are Gods...........and are too ignorant to understand they are going to get it up the ass, same as us, as soon as Republicans and corporations can institute a Corporate Fascist Tyranny. And they are within a hair of accomplishing just that..........

KATIE BAR THE DOOR.

procon

(15,805 posts)
11. "Two ventilators" per large hospitals? He's nuts!
Fri Mar 27, 2020, 02:53 AM
Mar 2020

Last edited Fri Mar 27, 2020, 03:29 PM - Edit history (1)

There's ventilators all over a hospital from the ER, to CCU and ICU, the ORs, recovery rooms, post ok and medical floors, peds, dialysis centers, plus spares.

If hospitals are caring for hundreds of corona virus patients they will need hundreds of ventilators. There are 62 acute hospitals in NYC alone, at a minimum say each has 200 patients potentially needing a vent, that's 12,400 vents just for EVERY acute HOSPITAL in the city. Multiply that times hundreds of hospitals throughout the whole state and it's clear that 30 thousand vents isn't an unusual request.

Trump is lying. He hasn't a clue how many ventilators any hospital has, and he couldn't care less about the people who need them to stay alive. This is retaliation against New York, this is another one of Trump's petty vendettas against Cuomo and Bloomberg for their scathing criticisms of his incompetence.

 

Aquaria

(1,076 posts)
31. He's not mad at Cuomo and Bloomberg
Fri Mar 27, 2020, 07:14 AM
Mar 2020

He’s mad at New York for investigating his crimes. He’s trying to blackmail them into dropping the investigations.

It’s time for Cuomo to seizing the idiot’s NYC hotel for containment of COVID-19 victims. He insists on holding the lives of NYers hostage, so hold something precious to him hostage.

And if he doesn’t like it, go after his black penis substitute tower, too.

Pritzker should do the same to that dump in Chicago, and Newsom could go after that hellhole in Palos Verdes. And so on with every blue state governor with one of the scumbag’s toxic properties polluting their landscape.

Bring the virus into his space, and see how he likes it.

BootinUp

(47,188 posts)
13. Sometimes its like we are watching a movie and im just waiting
Fri Mar 27, 2020, 02:59 AM
Mar 2020

for the hero to take this rat bastard down without prejudice.

LuckyLib

(6,819 posts)
16. What will it take? Bodies piling up and Americans watching in horror
Fri Mar 27, 2020, 03:06 AM
Mar 2020

as tee-vee news reveals that reality? Medical personnel are starting to speak out, prefacing their comments with "I don't care anymore what happens to me -- I have to speak out." Before they describe the dire situation they are in. Mayors and governors are at the front lines, and the Trump administration continues to lie about shipments.

SunSeeker

(51,705 posts)
22. Yep, and then he'll say it "snuck up on us" and "no one could have known" we'd need so many.
Fri Mar 27, 2020, 04:07 AM
Mar 2020

Same way he went from saying we'll have zero cases by April and this is all a "Democrat hoax," to saying nobody could have see this pandemic coming.

SergeStorms

(19,204 posts)
20. Once again, Trump's "gut" is the final authority on the subject.
Fri Mar 27, 2020, 03:57 AM
Mar 2020

Trump's "gut" was the final authority for declaring North Korea was getting rid of their nuclear arsenal.

Trump's "gut" was the final authority for declaring Russia did not interfere in the 2016 elections.

Trump's "gut" (and his Sharpie) was the final authority for declaring a hurricane was going to hit Alabama, when it came nowhere near Alabama.

Trump's "gut" tells him his "hair" and "suntan" look great, and make him look more manly and attractive to women.

Trump's "gut" is always so full of artery clogging, trans-fat rich fast food, Adderall, and only Dog knows what other drugs, that he can't sleep at night, is morbidly obese, and is a candidate for a head splitting stroke or an explosive heart attack at any minute.

Trump's fucking gut.

Sunriser13

(612 posts)
23. Cuomo should publicly invite tRump to visit Queens
Fri Mar 27, 2020, 04:46 AM
Mar 2020

C'mon, Don. Come show us how to do it, since you think we're doing it wrong. Oh, here's a recycled mask for you. Sorry, we don't have any fresh ones. Just stay the fuck out of the way.

This is 'The Twilight Zone', The Outer Limits', and 'The Stand' all mushed up together. The man is clueless, and doesn't give two shits about the populace he took an oath to serve.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
24. Has there ever been a more evil, stupid, incompetent president in the history of this nation?
Fri Mar 27, 2020, 04:55 AM
Mar 2020

I honestly can't believe this is happening. I can't believe how cold and heartless he is. How little he cares for the people of this country and how willing he is to sacrifice lives on the altar of his ego.

It is not possible for me to hate anyone more than I hate this man. There is no bottom to his depravity.

duforsure

(11,885 posts)
28. Coming from the same serial liar who claimed ...
Fri Mar 27, 2020, 05:16 AM
Mar 2020

... we'd be down to zero, it would all of a sudden disappear, it was contained, deny he knew about it when he did, called it a hoax, and now this lame excuse to use this crisis as a weapon to get his way , and to hurt Governors who don't praise him and show him total loyalty by hurting American people and by refusing relief funds, and that should piss off every American in this country for doing this. trumps MIA in this response is creating a possibility we will be in a depression brought on by trump. His response has been a complete failure, and hurting us all with everything he's doing now.

Afromania

(2,771 posts)
35. I already hate the people that did this to us.
Fri Mar 27, 2020, 08:59 AM
Mar 2020

But by not letting this happen in real time and not stepping up to stop "their" president........ I sincerely hate all that support him from the bottom of my heart. They may be relatives of some of the fantastic folks that frequent this board. Sorry, not sorry, but I hate your friends, I hate your family and I hate your co workers. Why do I hate them so much? Glad you asked, because they are "perfectly ok" with this motherfucker killing me and mine here in NY, over in CA, over in WA and anywhere else this tit for tat with holding of medical assistance is going to happen.

I just want ya'll to understand that before you start making any posts from here on out about how we need to work together with these people. That we need to have a big tent and blah fucking blah. I WANT YOU TO UNDERSTAND THAT THEIR UNDERLYING SOUL CALLS FOR OTHERS TO BE HURT AND THEY ARE OK WITH IT. They are not misguided but generally the sweetest person. Just think that they are aiding and abetting a willing murderer. We'll never know just how many people will die directly and indirectly from the shit he's been pulling.



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