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mfcorey1

(11,001 posts)
Tue Sep 11, 2012, 12:54 PM Sep 2012

It is chiiling to hear Mike Papantonio outline how Dick Cheney ignored and had Bush ignore the early

warnings on a 9/11 attempt at the USA, so that he could deliver a war to Exxon so that they could profit. Then he refused to release memos from the meeting. This man should be facing treason charges instead of running his mouth about Obama. My God! How could the Bush administration been so cynical. Thousands of people died because of their lack of action and manipulations for money. They will forever have blood on their hands, and may the screams and moans of the dying invade their dreams for the rest of their worthless lives.

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It is chiiling to hear Mike Papantonio outline how Dick Cheney ignored and had Bush ignore the early (Original Post) mfcorey1 Sep 2012 OP
Early warnings? LOL! Politicalboi Sep 2012 #1
"Do the orders still stand?" Ezlivin Sep 2012 #2
The order was "Stand down," we need this to motivate the American people... rfranklin Sep 2012 #3
It doesn't take a "grand conspiracy" – just Cheney and a few insiders Qutzupalotl Sep 2012 #4
Cheney is as evil a fuck as there is. -nt CrispyQ Sep 2012 #5
If we learned anything from WikiLeaks, it was BlueStreak Sep 2012 #6
Yes they should face treason charges, but we're told to look ahead just1voice Sep 2012 #7
 

Politicalboi

(15,189 posts)
1. Early warnings? LOL!
Tue Sep 11, 2012, 12:56 PM
Sep 2012

PNAC "NEEDED" Another Pearl Harbor for the 21st Century. I think WE didn't read the warnings.

Ezlivin

(8,153 posts)
2. "Do the orders still stand?"
Tue Sep 11, 2012, 12:59 PM
Sep 2012

From the testimony of Norman Mineta:

MR. HAMILTON: We thank you for that. I wanted to focus just a moment on the Presidential Emergency Operating Center. You were there for a good part of the day. I think you were there with the vice president. And when you had that order given, I think it was by the president, that authorized the shooting down of commercial aircraft that were suspected to be controlled by terrorists, were you there when that order was given?

MR. MINETA: No, I was not. I was made aware of it during the time that the airplane coming into the Pentagon. There was a young man who had come in and said to the vice president, "The plane is 50 miles out. The plane is 30 miles out." [b style="color:red;"]And when it got down to, "The plane is 10 miles out," the young man also said to the vice president, "Do the orders still stand?" And the vice president turned and whipped his neck around and said, "Of course the orders still stand. Have you heard anything to the contrary?"


What were the orders, Mr. Cheney? What were the orders?

Qutzupalotl

(14,317 posts)
4. It doesn't take a "grand conspiracy" – just Cheney and a few insiders
Tue Sep 11, 2012, 01:19 PM
Sep 2012

who drunk the PNAC Kool-Aid. With Cheney's clout at the CIA and his ability to classify virtually anything, you'd be surprised at what he is capable of.

I'm not saying he launched the attacks, but he knew where and approximately when they were coming, and he made sure our eastern seaboard was vulnerable at the right moment.

 

BlueStreak

(8,377 posts)
6. If we learned anything from WikiLeaks, it was
Tue Sep 11, 2012, 02:03 PM
Sep 2012

that there are loads of communications going on behind the scenes, 99.9% of which is never revealed to the public. I don't think anybody should be surprised by that, but WikiLeaks just made it clear how much of that goes on.

We didn't have an ambassador to the nation of al Qaeda, but for a person to assume there could not be communications and coordination, that would be naive in the extreme.

Like you, I am not claiming that happened, as we have no direct evidence of that. But it is certain that Cheney had lots of warning that the attack was coming, and if he wanted to do some coordination, that would not have been difficult.

Whatever happened, I marvel that the one piece of the story that is almost never discussed on these 911 anniversaries is how effective bin Laden was in achieving his big goal. biin Ladin is dead, but he is still terrorizing America from his grave.

 

just1voice

(1,362 posts)
7. Yes they should face treason charges, but we're told to look ahead
Tue Sep 11, 2012, 02:07 PM
Sep 2012

Oh it's just a little treason, massive war crimes, illegal wiretapping, lying to Congress and the world: who cares when we've got more important problems like giving criminal banks 100s of billions?

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