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BeyondGeography

(39,374 posts)
Tue Sep 11, 2012, 02:38 PM Sep 2012

Jim Cramer: Voter ID Law Will Disenfranchise My Dad

CNBC host Jim Cramer said Tuesday that his father was among the estimated 750,000 registered voters in Pennsylvania who lack a state-issued form of identification.

“My dad, a vet, won’t be allowed to vote in Pa. because he does not drive, he is elderly, and can’t prove his citizenship,” Cramer wrote on Twitter.

Many elderly voters, including those who have voted in at least the past fifty elections, will have trouble voting under the law.

A Pennsylvania Supreme Court hearing on the constitutionality of the state’s voter ID law begins on Thursday. The law is also the subject of a Justice Department investigation evaluating whether the law is discriminatory under the Voting Rights Act.

http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/2012/09/jim_cramer_pennsylvania_voter_id.php?ref=fpa
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Jim Cramer: Voter ID Law Will Disenfranchise My Dad (Original Post) BeyondGeography Sep 2012 OP
DOJ! ananda Sep 2012 #1
Those Republicon assholes on cnbc must love that! polichick Sep 2012 #2
My first thought, too. nt MADem Sep 2012 #5
At the very least the state should be required to issue a photo ID to every registered voter ... Ganja Ninja Sep 2012 #3
Great idea BeyondGeography Sep 2012 #4
That's why the state isn't doing it. atreides1 Sep 2012 #6
That is the law in poor ass Jamaica malaise Sep 2012 #7
You mean like Mexico? nadinbrzezinski Sep 2012 #15
Does anybody know if Cramer and his dad are Republicans? Because if they are, I say kestrel91316 Sep 2012 #8
I believe Cramer is a Democrat, a moderate one I'm guessing Sugarcoated Sep 2012 #9
No, I believe from previous statements he at least leans Republican LondonReign2 Sep 2012 #12
I'd say more than lean: He's ferociously anti-labor Populist_Prole Sep 2012 #14
It doesn't matter what party - what matters is how bad this law is and... LynneSin Sep 2012 #13
Isn't he the stock market guy? raouldukelives Sep 2012 #23
democrat Laura PourMeADrink Sep 2012 #27
Just how much "investigation" Loki Sep 2012 #10
PA is the #2 state for edlerly residents............... kooljerk666 Sep 2012 #11
Yes, because there is no state income tax. nt nanabugg Sep 2012 #18
UPDATE: Voter ID problem solved for Jim Cramer's dad DavidL Sep 2012 #16
Surprise, surprise...now PA Dems should raise holy hell BeyondGeography Sep 2012 #17
thanks for the link, DavidL... like someone Cha Sep 2012 #19
Is this allowed on CNBC gael Sep 2012 #20
Ask Cramer to help all the others without famous DevonRex Sep 2012 #21
He should do one of his apeshit rants on his show about this. VPStoltz Sep 2012 #26
This Is Not Good Enough DallasNE Sep 2012 #22
poor thing dothemath Sep 2012 #24
And here is what the judge based his nykym Sep 2012 #25
They tried that with my 82 year old mother in Michigan magic59 Sep 2012 #28

Ganja Ninja

(15,953 posts)
3. At the very least the state should be required to issue a photo ID to every registered voter ...
Tue Sep 11, 2012, 02:41 PM
Sep 2012

before they are allowed to implement the law.

atreides1

(16,079 posts)
6. That's why the state isn't doing it.
Tue Sep 11, 2012, 02:46 PM
Sep 2012

It's a way to purge the voter rolls...for now. The PA Supreme Court will look at this on the 13th...I have heard that the court is made up of 3 Dems and 3 Repubs...the bright side is that one of the Repub judges is reported to be a moderate.

We'll have to wait and see what their decision is.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
15. You mean like Mexico?
Tue Sep 11, 2012, 04:53 PM
Sep 2012

And as Malaise noted, Jamaica? We should be embarrassed. But that is not the goal of this.

 

kestrel91316

(51,666 posts)
8. Does anybody know if Cramer and his dad are Republicans? Because if they are, I say
Tue Sep 11, 2012, 02:58 PM
Sep 2012

SUCK IT UP, YOU FOOLS.

Sugarcoated

(7,724 posts)
9. I believe Cramer is a Democrat, a moderate one I'm guessing
Tue Sep 11, 2012, 03:01 PM
Sep 2012

His dad, who knows. I live in the same town he grew up in, wonder if his dad is one of my neighbors.

LondonReign2

(5,213 posts)
12. No, I believe from previous statements he at least leans Republican
Tue Sep 11, 2012, 03:26 PM
Sep 2012

Typically Republican -- it only matters when *you* feel the pain

LynneSin

(95,337 posts)
13. It doesn't matter what party - what matters is how bad this law is and...
Tue Sep 11, 2012, 04:25 PM
Sep 2012

how it impacts the elderly in Pennsylvania.

raouldukelives

(5,178 posts)
23. Isn't he the stock market guy?
Wed Sep 12, 2012, 09:43 AM
Sep 2012

He can thank all those investments & cheerleading for the corporations abilities to buy off politicians and pass laws favorable to their cause like this and Citizens United.
It's bad enough to vote Repug, it's entirely another level to support them monetarily.

Loki

(3,825 posts)
10. Just how much "investigation"
Tue Sep 11, 2012, 03:08 PM
Sep 2012

Does this shit need until it is blocked from taking effect? Disenfranchised almost a million voters and they need more proof?

 

kooljerk666

(776 posts)
11. PA is the #2 state for edlerly residents...............
Tue Sep 11, 2012, 03:23 PM
Sep 2012

I might bet that the seniors that the GOP exclude are by & large GOPers and they pretty much just shot themselves in their own junk.

At least I hope so, I would die laffing if Obama won PA cause crotchity old white men were unable to vote.

 

DavidL

(384 posts)
16. UPDATE: Voter ID problem solved for Jim Cramer's dad
Tue Sep 11, 2012, 04:54 PM
Sep 2012
http://livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/entry/voter-id-problem-solved-for-jim-cramers-dad

I'm sure PA DOT agency did this as a favor to someone with a national TV show and a million followers on Twitter.

Everyone else, get in line.

Cha

(297,290 posts)
19. thanks for the link, DavidL... like someone
Tue Sep 11, 2012, 05:04 PM
Sep 2012

commented on TPM.. they didn't see one ounce of concern by Jim Cramer for anyone else's Dad not being able to vote in PA.

But, maybe this can be used to point out that Cramer's Dad isn't the only one who had problems getting to vote?

gael

(35 posts)
20. Is this allowed on CNBC
Tue Sep 11, 2012, 05:07 PM
Sep 2012

the station that represents corporations to the detrement of your 401k's and pensions. It finally achieved
the hysteria and rants of the roller rink, and turned most sensible investors off.

DevonRex

(22,541 posts)
21. Ask Cramer to help all the others without famous
Tue Sep 11, 2012, 05:14 PM
Sep 2012

sons. Try not to be too snarky. The goal is to get relief for disenfranchised voters.

VPStoltz

(1,295 posts)
26. He should do one of his apeshit rants on his show about this.
Wed Sep 12, 2012, 11:35 PM
Sep 2012

But is anyone listening?
That's the thing about "those types" (meaning Republicons) the don't feel they have to listen to anyone by Rush.

DallasNE

(7,403 posts)
22. This Is Not Good Enough
Tue Sep 11, 2012, 05:41 PM
Sep 2012

Jim Cramer has money and connections so he was able to get this resolved for his dad. What about the other thousands in the same boat as his dad. Should not the State do the same thing for these other thousands and should not Cramer be following up to assure that that is the case? This should be a class action endeavor rather than being done serially as happened here.

 

dothemath

(345 posts)
24. poor thing
Wed Sep 12, 2012, 12:04 PM
Sep 2012

So who should pick up your Dad and take him to vote? Any liability issues? Should anything untoward happen, is it guaranteed you, Jim Cramer, will sue? As a multi-millionaire, much of whose money was stolen by manipulating stock prices (by your own admission), are you unable to make arrangements so your dad can vote? Taxpayers, maybe?

nykym

(3,063 posts)
25. And here is what the judge based his
Wed Sep 12, 2012, 01:18 PM
Sep 2012

decision on.

Pennsylvania Voter Id

A Pennsylvania judge's decision to uphold the state's tough new voter-identification law last month was based in part on a 19th century state court decision that at the time disenfranchised many Philadelphia workmen who the court didn't feel were virtuous enough to vote.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/09/11/voter-id-law-pennsylvania_n_1873941.html

 

magic59

(429 posts)
28. They tried that with my 82 year old mother in Michigan
Thu Sep 13, 2012, 12:54 AM
Sep 2012

She had the ID but they wouldn't send her an absentee ballot which they are required to do for anyone or 60 who wants one. Living in a heavy repub area they seem to be making up the rules as they go along.
Anyway, she called me, I called the state AG office, they transferred me to the Bureau of Elections. Took all of one minute, after they thanked me, for them to contact her city clerk to read him the riot act. They called her back, said they are going to hand deliver a ballot to her.
We shall see.

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