Trump suggests US should treat Germany as an enemy because of World War II

[steve2470]

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-germany-coronavirus-ww2-enemy-allies-russia-putin-a9435906.html

Donald Trump is suggesting the United States should treat Germany more like an enemy because the two countries were adversaries in World War II as the president again lobbied for closer US-Russian relations.

If he turns the off-the-cuff remark into US policy, Mr Trump would try fundamentally overhauling the post-World War II global power dynamic that saw Western countries bring Germany into their sphere while combating Moscow and fighting the spread of communism in the post-war era. But with little opposition to the American-German alliance in Congress, especially the GOP-run Senate, such a plan would face ample pushback – including from within his own party.

Mr Trump, during another wildly cascading "Fox & Friends" call-in, launched into a remarkable diatribe about Germany and Russia – and how the United States should treat each country – after being asked about what he and Russian President Vladimir Putin would discuss during a planned telephone conversation Monday morning.

The American leader repeated his long-espoused view that it would be a "good thing" if Washington and Moscow had a warmer relationship, noting he has been saying so since he was first a presidential candidate. Despite his five-year-old contention, the Cold War adversaries remain rivals on the global stage.


Ok he's gone totally insane now and oh yes, PUTIN!!!

[northoftheborder]

1. Totally nuts. What did he & Putin discuss???????????

[steve2470]

2. my understanding is Putin wants to weaken or destroy our relationship with Germany...

as well with NATO and the rest of Europe.

Trump's been way too friendly with Putin.

[FormerOstrich]

10. Lifting sanctions, I'm sure

if they haven't been lifted yet that is...no telling with that crew.

[bdamomma]

3. He's a POS

and it's very clear he's in the back pocket of Putin. Putin loves this.

The Death cult.

[DFW]

4. A day late and a ruble sort

As one who has been living in Germany for years, I can tell you that the Germans, from Merkel on down, know perfectly well that Trump is no more representative of the people of the United States than Roseanne Barr is representative of mezzo soprano singers at the New York Metropolitain Opera. I have plenty of friends here in Germany and in most neighboring countries. Holland, Belgium, France, Switzerland, Austria, Poland, they ALL know what an absolute dork Trump is, and what kind of idiots he has working with and for him.

Unfortunately for Vladimir Vladimirovitch, the people of these countries have been meeting Americans for decades, and they know perfectly well that outside of a few boorish tourists and arrogant businessmen, Americans are nothing like Trump. They never were, and never wanted to be. They know perfectly well that he is parroting what Putin wants--a rift between the two countries. It won't work. There are Americans over here, in quantity, and who do NOT fit the stereotype any more. We speak THEIR language, we respect THEIR culture, and we are not in the least ashamed to say we long for Obama and the Clintons, and abhor Dick Cheney and Donald Trump.

The most Trump will accomplish with talk like this is to intensify the impatience among our allies for Trump's departure, and I can tell you from here in the heart of Europe that the impatience is growing with every day. But it's not directed at you or me or us as a nation. They consider him a superficial cancerous tumor--one that is ugly and disturbing, but, if removed in time, not in the least life-threatening.

[Dan]

6. For the comments you shared on your perception of Germany / Europe

on their understanding of the disconnect in views between the American (majority of) people and the President...

Thank God, that we are all on the same page - we want him gone!

[DFW]

11. Here, it is indeed just about everyone that wants him gone

Not just students or taxi drivers. It's the waiters in cafés in Catalunya, it's the bankers in Switzerland, it's the hotel reception workers in Belgium, it's the shop owners in France, it's the carpenters in Germany, it's the members of Parliament in the Netherlands. I speak the languages of all these countries, so it's not like I had to seek out only people with doctorate degrees in English to talk to. That is one barrier I am not burdened with. Here, it really is everybody.

[crickets]

16. Thank you for this overseas perspective. It's comforting to hear. nt

[DFW]

18. It's nice to live on a continent free from Fox "News."

They sent out some feelers here in Germany about a German-language version, but there are still laws on the books prohibiting Nazi-like propaganda, and they were told in no uncertain terms that their kind of "reporting" did not pass the test.

The Germans told them: "We decide. You don't report."

[Hekate]

21. Thank you for your perspective, DFW. It comforts me quite a bit, & I hope it is true...

It's just that, like so many, I look at my country in crisis now -- just disbelief. I can't believe this is my country, and yet it is.

[Mopar151]

5. What kills me is the presumption

That he will have any influence in this regard? He has 7 months of his errant spew left, where he COULD act like an actual president! Plus 75 days of the "Greatest" Lame Duck petulant sniveling the world has ever seen, beleive me!

In wars of old, his kind were called "collaborators". Their have a high mortality rate, and a very short life when the fates turn and order is restored. Perhaps it is time for the identification, and naming of these collabarators. Justice is done, by making sure that innocents are spared when the inevitable happens.

[Wounded Bear]

7. All because Ms Merkel is a better leader than he is...

[malaise]

8. Don't forget grandpa was banished

[dalton99a]

9. And Republicans are perfectly fine with all the shit he's saying and doing

[MissMillie]

12. Russia was our Cold War adversary.....

don't suppose he could take his lips off Putin's butt long enough to consider that.

[Wednesdays]

13. Why stop there?

Why aren't we treating Spain as an enemy? Great Britain, too?

[Hekate]

15. It has to be asked...

Who will rid us of this troublesome beast?

[Adsos Letter]

17. A Man for All Seasons

“Who will rid me of this turbulent priest?”

I’ve been quoting that line to myself quite a bit lately.

[WyattKansas]

19. Did anyone teach that imbecile anything when he was growing up?

Or did daddy just tell him to blame others as he steals other peoples money?

[scarytomcat]

20. well good he has move up to WWII, I thought he was stuck in the civil war like his base

soon maybe he can understand the cold war

[coti]

22. Yup, he's still a traitor. nt

[la-trucker]

23. He has completely lost it

although there wasn't much to lose to begin with