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MaybeQuicklyButMaybeSlowlyHat RetweetedVideos show sailors sending off ousted USS Roosevelt commander with cheers: US Navy relieved the captain who sounded the alarm about a coronavirus outbreak aboard the ship -
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samnsara
(17,636 posts)fleur-de-lisa
(14,628 posts)Not saying he should not be commended.
The Captain did the right thing . . . the Navy did what it had to do.
The captain should be a model for managers everywhere . . . the common good over career.
Been close to what the captain did a few times in my career, not that degree of magnitude, but being in a position where I was weighing a management end-around to address a risk issue, that I knew would result in demotion or dismissal.
So many in upper management, any organization, have worked hard to attain their position, and once there are very risk averse. That is why what the captain did is special.
murielm99
(30,764 posts)We should call him Captain Covid.
I know the navy did what they had to do. It was the first thing my husband mentioned when I told him the captain was relieved of his command. My husband was in the army.
samsingh
(17,601 posts)Shanti Mama
(1,288 posts)Look at all the social interaction. How nice to be among so many and to be so engaged.
Takket
(21,626 posts)But all the MAGAts see is drumpf hugging the flag and they think he loves America.
uponit7771
(90,364 posts)klook
(12,166 posts)Simultaneously a low and high point of his career, I'm sure.
Unbelievable that he was put in this position. Now, does the crew still have to stay on board 'til they all get SARS-CoV-2??
bhcodem
(231 posts)I think it behooves the Commander in Chief to fly to that ship to take charge since what the former captain did was not necessary for the safety and health of the sailors under his command. Apparently there is no problem with being stuck in a small confined space with many infected seamen.
Harker
(14,036 posts)crickets
(25,983 posts)mahatmakanejeeves
(57,613 posts)gibraltar72
(7,512 posts)This needs to be played on every network every 30 minutes.
uponit7771
(90,364 posts)Marcuse
(7,507 posts)murielm99
(30,764 posts)Thank you so much.
underpants
(182,880 posts)Army here. The Navy always confused me.
Marcuse
(7,507 posts)Snake Plissken
(4,103 posts)2naSalit
(86,782 posts)I wonder how many of us will be here then.
SuprstitionAintthWay
(386 posts)Last edited Fri Apr 3, 2020, 12:53 PM - Edit history (1)
But my worry is that during his final week his last official state visit abroad will be to see The Puppetmaster. That he'll send his entourage and SS detail back on Air Force One without him, and live out his days in a dacha somewhere outside Moscow.
Putin probably will let him appear in front of Russia Today cameras regularly... for however long he can stay on-script, anyway. A little home away from home, on the Fox "News" of Russia! But he'll screw that kind of gig up. And even as long as it lasts, it will be very weak tea for him compared to his frequent heroin highs he gets here - his hate rallies and and his lie-filled, boast-fest "pressers."
If that happens and Trump escapes justice here, I'll at least take some solace from the certainty that, like all Americans who betrayed their country and then bugged out for the USSR or Russia, Trump will quickly come to realize (a) he's not going to live as fat as Putin promised him, and (b) the Russians will have only poorly disguised contempt for him, too.
(I was in a Navy intell unit in which it turned out we had a fucked-up guy like that, a Navy petty officer. Narcissistic, nursing grievances of perceived slights and unfairnesses, and almost as delusional about his own greatness as Trump is. He eventually got bugged out by the KGB to the Soviet Union... yeah, like something out of The Americans (great show btw). His disillusionment once there, and his realization the Russians, too, disdained him as just a vile traitor, was so complete that he killed himself after a few years. Which has been not uncommon for American spies who wind up there.)
gab13by13
(21,405 posts)if the coronavirus hits your ship, keep quiet or get fired.
2naSalit
(86,782 posts)LastLiberal in PalmSprings
(12,595 posts)Of course, Commander Bone Spurs doesn't understand the concept that loyalty flows both ways. This captain clearly earned the respect of his crew by taking care of them. In return, the crew gave him their loyalty, and would bust its ass to follow his orders.
I feel for the captain who follows this one. What is he going to do as the number of coronavirus cases on his ship increases exponentially??
Paladin
(28,273 posts)trump pardons and fetes a goddamn war criminal who killed innocent civilians---and then sees to the firing an honorable Navy captain, clearly in desperate circumstances, who tries to save the sailors under his command.
That captain deserves the Medal Of Honor---the sooner he gets it after trump is gone, the better.
And yes, as a matter of fact, I do have Naval veterans in my family.
Hekate
(90,803 posts)ooky
(8,929 posts)K&R
Johnyawl
(3,205 posts)That outpouring of support demonstrates the esteem that the crew had for their Captain long before this shitstorm started. Not only has he saved his own men, but he has done an immense service to the rest of the sailors at sea. Given the nature of the shitstorm this has caused the DoD will pay closer attention now when a ship's Captain tries to bring this issue to their attention..
defacto7
(13,485 posts)Hip, hip....
underpants
(182,880 posts)lunasun
(21,646 posts)In case anyone else doesnt know about the story ..
The dismissal of Captain Crozier at this critical moment, as the sailors aboard the U.S.S. Theodore Roosevelt are confronted with the COVID-19 pandemic, is a reckless, political move that reeks of undue command influence," read the statement from chairman Rep. Adam Smith of Washington, subcommittee chairs Rep. Joe Courtney of Connecticut, Rep. John Garamendi of California and Rep. Jackie Speier of California.
Former Vice President Joe Biden also blasted the Navy's acting secretary in a statement, saying that he "shot the messenger a commanding officer who was faithful to both his national security mission and his duty to care for his sailors, and who rightly focused attention on a broader concern about how to maintain military readiness during this pandemic."
The ship, which was operating in the Pacific, pulled into port in Guam last week several days after multiple crew members tested positive for the virus. By Wednesday, there were 93 positive test results, and more than 1,000 people were taken off the carrier and placed into isolation on Guam. In total, 2,700 people are expected to disembark the ship this week, with a smaller crew remaining to maintain the carrier.
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/military/navy-expected-relieve-captain-who-raised-alarm-about-covid-19-n1175351
defacto7
(13,485 posts)Wellstone ruled
(34,661 posts)Noticed he was not allowed to wear his Dress Whites. What a slap in the face.
Watch for a mass Early Out to happen.
Marcuse
(7,507 posts)Kobayashi Maru
Blue Owl
(50,505 posts)Fuck you Donald tRump.