Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search

Light63

(233 posts)
Sun Apr 5, 2020, 05:58 PM Apr 2020

UNBELIEVABLE! The Changing of Time

My older brother lives in Calabasas, a city in the Los Angeles County, CA. He is a true die-hard Republican in my family, the hardest one. He called me this morning to ask me to do a favor for him. All of sudden, he blurted out, “Trump is a JERK! Trump only cares for himself and his wealth. Whatever policy that he enacts seems to benefit him. Trump is a child inside a man. He is so incapable to be the president. He is a conman. Can’t believe that I voted for him in 2016! So many people have died, and all he cares about is to make himself look good in front of TV. I did not like Pelosi and Schumer before, but now, I can see that they really care for people. I truly appreciate the good things that they’ve tried to do for our country. I like them now. I am no longer a Republican. I will vote for whoever the Democratic presidential candidate is. Just want to kick Trump out of the White House in November. In addition, how could Trump stupidly appoint his eunuch-like son-in-law to lead the most crucial and important task force under the current dire and dangerous situation of our country! The person that I currently admire the most right now is the governor from New York, Andrew Cuomo. I will definitely vote for him if he is the candidate. He truly deserves to be the President of the USA!”

Wow! Could not believe my ears! Perhaps the latest tracker poll is correct. Trump’s support is beginning to crack because his supporters start seeing the real petty, selfish, self-centered, bullyish, and incapable person in him.

61 replies = new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight: NoneDon't highlight anything 5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
UNBELIEVABLE! The Changing of Time (Original Post) Light63 Apr 2020 OP
Good news! Sherman A1 Apr 2020 #1
Except it does not count for a thing... no Fed response is a feature not an artifact... NotHardly Apr 2020 #45
We either destroy them or allow them to destroy the nation. It is that damn simple. olegramps Apr 2020 #61
The Enter Key, aka The Return Key, aka CRLF, aka ASCII 10 and/or ASCII 13 is your friend (nt) mr_lebowski Apr 2020 #2
Maybe his nightly rally/TV show is revealing more of him than some can stomach in the tblue37 Apr 2020 #3
Yep. crickets Apr 2020 #7
There IS bad publicity underpants Apr 2020 #34
Good to hear! smirkymonkey Apr 2020 #4
Super mega-fabulous terrific news, Light!! Leghorn21 Apr 2020 #5
In ways no other Democrat is doing randr Apr 2020 #6
Agree. Hope zentrum Apr 2020 #58
Wonderful news! MLAA Apr 2020 #8
YES YES YES! Faux pas Apr 2020 #9
We have a major trumpet.. Dawgman49 Apr 2020 #10
Or They're Afraid Someone Will Trash It ProfessorGAC Apr 2020 #32
If nothing else! And Welcome to DU, Dawgman49! calimary Apr 2020 #41
There is someone with I_UndergroundPanther Apr 2020 #54
Yesterday afternoon, I posted one about the Con Artist. Here is a link to that one, & Stuart G Apr 2020 #11
👍🏻💕 Meowmee Apr 2020 #12
These stories feed my soul, a little bit at a time. Squinch Apr 2020 #13
"eunuch-like" Demovictory9 Apr 2020 #14
Never believed there was a bump. As this matures I see fewer and fewer willing to defend him gibraltar72 Apr 2020 #15
I think they're just trying to prevent huge riots if russia hacks the election again. BComplex Apr 2020 #18
Thank you for sharing -- very heartening. fierywoman Apr 2020 #16
For you it must have been like being struck by lightening.... magicarpet Apr 2020 #17
Some do but DownriverDem Apr 2020 #19
They'll Stop Soon ProfessorGAC Apr 2020 #35
Eunuch-LIKE??? jayschool2013 Apr 2020 #20
Thank you for sharing this. We need every bit of good news we can find. niyad Apr 2020 #21
He must have wanted a hell of a favor! dchill Apr 2020 #22
Just want me to help him removing some texts from an annoying chained thead Light63 Apr 2020 #30
I'm glad he finally saw the light. dchill Apr 2020 #31
I've noticed that about her. She does like her dramatic scarves. calimary Apr 2020 #42
I have a big mowhawk I_UndergroundPanther Apr 2020 #55
Agreed. This is not the time to be a flashy dresser. calimary Apr 2020 #57
Thank you for this.. it's interesting coming Cha Apr 2020 #49
Birx and "fashion" Rorey Apr 2020 #51
I'm glad to read this - thank you. Welcome your brother for us. NBachers Apr 2020 #23
Wonderful! Alacritous Crier Apr 2020 #24
I'm his neighbor over here In Westlake Village PlanetBev Apr 2020 #25
Gasp! Laffy Kat Apr 2020 #26
I love it kimbutgar Apr 2020 #27
Thanks for posting. We can use good news like this. captain queeg Apr 2020 #28
K&R n/t Kitchari Apr 2020 #29
Wow! Did you faint from shock? 3catwoman3 Apr 2020 #33
A Real Shame Mordred Apr 2020 #36
Congrats! SheltieLover Apr 2020 #37
I wonder how many Republicans will vote yuiyoshida Apr 2020 #38
I'm so happy for you! Tell bro no Fox...no backsliding!❤ Karadeniz Apr 2020 #39
I'm a teacher... WinstonSmith4740 Apr 2020 #40
Better late to realize it than never Blue Owl Apr 2020 #43
Nice sign of awakening. Unfortunately, it goes both ways. SpankMe Apr 2020 #44
Misogyny is a HELL of a drug! eom The_REAL_Ecumenist Apr 2020 #60
congratulations! barbtries Apr 2020 #46
wow! I like reading that! Thanks!!! liberalla Apr 2020 #47
Made my day ❤️ nt live love laugh Apr 2020 #48
Seeing your parents and friends die over a "hoax" will have that effect. Renew Deal Apr 2020 #50
Happy for you LittleGirl Apr 2020 #52
Trump won the 2016 election Aussie105 Apr 2020 #53
MAGAts are cracking because this time the death threat is to THEMSELVES. lagomorph777 Apr 2020 #56
It's a great day when one breaks free from a cult liberal N proud Apr 2020 #59

NotHardly

(1,062 posts)
45. Except it does not count for a thing... no Fed response is a feature not an artifact...
Sun Apr 5, 2020, 08:19 PM
Apr 2020

They, the Republicans, want us dead. They have not read the 'Final U.S. Solution' as Republicans have written it.

olegramps

(8,200 posts)
61. We either destroy them or allow them to destroy the nation. It is that damn simple.
Tue Apr 7, 2020, 10:23 AM
Apr 2020

They are the proverbial opposite of King Midas, everything they touch turns to shit. Excuse my vulgarity, but it the only appropriate term.

 

mr_lebowski

(33,643 posts)
2. The Enter Key, aka The Return Key, aka CRLF, aka ASCII 10 and/or ASCII 13 is your friend (nt)
Sun Apr 5, 2020, 06:01 PM
Apr 2020

&x0D;

It's a wonderful thing ...

tblue37

(65,403 posts)
3. Maybe his nightly rally/TV show is revealing more of him than some can stomach in the
Sun Apr 5, 2020, 06:04 PM
Apr 2020

face of a deadly pandemic.

crickets

(25,981 posts)
7. Yep.
Sun Apr 5, 2020, 06:07 PM
Apr 2020

I still think at least some of these polls have been inflated to prop him up. The real numbers are dropping and are going to get harder and harder to hide.

underpants

(182,826 posts)
34. There IS bad publicity
Sun Apr 5, 2020, 07:24 PM
Apr 2020

But he couldn't stay away. He had to swoop in and save the day and stay in the camera frame. Pence looks like more of a potted plant than he usually does and I'd have thought that was impossible.

MLAA

(17,298 posts)
8. Wonderful news!
Sun Apr 5, 2020, 06:08 PM
Apr 2020

I sure wish my brother would open his hypocritical evangelical eyes. But alas, I hold no hope, but sure happy you have a rational brother again!

Dawgman49

(226 posts)
10. We have a major trumpet..
Sun Apr 5, 2020, 06:11 PM
Apr 2020

Lives a few blocks away... I had to pass his house in my runs...Big trump 2020 sign in front of his house, yesterday the sign is down.. if nothing else maybe these people are actually feeling shame

ProfessorGAC

(65,066 posts)
32. Or They're Afraid Someone Will Trash It
Sun Apr 5, 2020, 07:18 PM
Apr 2020

The acid test is, if this thing blows out well before November, does it go back up?
They're also perhaps worried about alienating neighbors, because chest beating about being a supporter isn't a good look right now.

calimary

(81,305 posts)
41. If nothing else! And Welcome to DU, Dawgman49!
Sun Apr 5, 2020, 07:48 PM
Apr 2020

I hope they're ALL starting to feel shame.

ALL of them. Every last one.

Shame enough to wake up, and wise up - NOT to make the same voting mistake again.

I'm sorry, but THIS, NOW, is on every one of them who allowed themselves to get taken. Nobody put a gun to any of their heads and told them to vote for him or else. They went willingly. They volunteered.

I_UndergroundPanther

(12,480 posts)
54. There is someone with
Mon Apr 6, 2020, 09:05 AM
Apr 2020

In my town too.
They have a huge sign
ringed the sign with flags,the sign has a big lumber frame to hold it up made with 2×4's.

It makes me gag Everytime I see it.

Stuart G

(38,434 posts)
11. Yesterday afternoon, I posted one about the Con Artist. Here is a link to that one, &
Sun Apr 5, 2020, 06:12 PM
Apr 2020

your brother has verified that I was correct. Oh, and Thank You for telling us your story, and a late welcome to Democratic Underground...please hit the link below to see that one..

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100213232668

gibraltar72

(7,506 posts)
15. Never believed there was a bump. As this matures I see fewer and fewer willing to defend him
Sun Apr 5, 2020, 06:15 PM
Apr 2020

They try every new talking point but fold pretty quickly when facts are inserted into the conversation. We win em one at a time.

BComplex

(8,053 posts)
18. I think they're just trying to prevent huge riots if russia hacks the election again.
Sun Apr 5, 2020, 06:23 PM
Apr 2020

They're going to have to try hard to convince people that someone voted for this large orange turd.

DownriverDem

(6,228 posts)
19. Some do but
Sun Apr 5, 2020, 06:27 PM
Apr 2020

I'm still hearing from the die-hards who keep bringing up Obama's handling of H1N1 Pandemic. They have no idea how they look to the majority of the country.

ProfessorGAC

(65,066 posts)
35. They'll Stop Soon
Sun Apr 5, 2020, 07:25 PM
Apr 2020

H1N1 swine flu had the first case in April 2009. First death, same month.

The last cases were August 2010, with last confirmed death in mid-July.

So, 12,500 deaths in 15 months. We're closing in on 10,000 deaths in 10 weeks, & only 9 since first death.

In a couple weeks, we won't hear those folks talking swine flu again. Hard to explain how 12,500 is more than 50,000.

Light63

(233 posts)
30. Just want me to help him removing some texts from an annoying chained thead
Sun Apr 5, 2020, 07:14 PM
Apr 2020

My brother has a PhD degree in Biology. He did work in the White House under Clinton Administration. He worked under Dr. Anthony Fauci back in the 90s; although Dr. Fauci did not personally know him. My brother was just one of the biologists invited to work with Dr. Fauci. He said Dr. Fauci was a much cooler person back then. My brother added that he doesn’t like Dr. Deborah Birx. Some of the things that she said were not accurate, perhaps being pressured from Trump. He also mentioned his distaste about the way she dresses so flamboyantly at the daily briefing as if the daily briefing is for entertainment and showmanship. Her daily colorful and gaudy outfits do not reflect the serious and deadly situation that our country is in.

I’m just happy that there is another Democrat-convert and a former Trump supporter who genuinely and angrily wants to kick Trump out of the White House comes November.

calimary

(81,305 posts)
42. I've noticed that about her. She does like her dramatic scarves.
Sun Apr 5, 2020, 07:52 PM
Apr 2020

Very flashy dresser. She's clearly semi-obsessed with accessorizing, particularly with colorful or dramatic, sweeping scarves. It is a wee bit off-putting. Makes one wonder if she spends as much time reading her medical journals as she must spend with Vogue magazine.

I_UndergroundPanther

(12,480 posts)
55. I have a big mowhawk
Mon Apr 6, 2020, 09:15 AM
Apr 2020

But I wear it because of a promise to myself from second grade.

I was kinda advanced in my class so when the assignment was done I would flip through the textbook.
In the history book I saw a native american in a roach.

I thought his "hair" was the most amazing hair ever and promised myself my hair would look that beautiful someday.

I cut my hawk when I was 21 on my birthday never looked back still wearing it , I cut and dye it myself.

I wear some gothic,punk, glam metal,rave clothes.

If I was Birx, I would wear black and dye my hair to match. And I would wear it down in a ponytail.For the sick and dead,with the support ribbon for healthcare nurses ,docs and first responders on my lapel.


I might be a freak( in the positive sense) but I can have class in my own way. Birx might be tacky and tone deaf,and since trump put her there, I find that more wrong than the the clothes .

calimary

(81,305 posts)
57. Agreed. This is not the time to be a flashy dresser.
Mon Apr 6, 2020, 02:14 PM
Apr 2020

This is a somber time when we should be all-business. And I'm NOT talking "commerce" business. I mean PROFESSIONAL. It's not about how you look or how stylish you can appear when on camera. Or maybe who you're dressing FOR. (?)

I'd dress more somber and not as attention-grabbing in those occasions. You're NOT trying to attract attention to yourself. Everybody's already paying attention to you because of your job title and your expertise. You're already on center stage on TV in a White House coronavirus briefing that most of the world is watching, forcryingoutloud. Let that be your show. Besides, the Showboat-in-Chief is gonna be right there, making sure you can't compete with him, no matter what you do. Even if you waltzed out there naked. (Of course - um - that would be a whole 'nother story.)

Cha

(297,290 posts)
49. Thank you for this.. it's interesting coming
Mon Apr 6, 2020, 07:07 AM
Apr 2020

from your brother who voted for trump but can now finally see who he is.

Rorey

(8,445 posts)
51. Birx and "fashion"
Mon Apr 6, 2020, 08:39 AM
Apr 2020

I agree about her clothing choices. Given the seriousness of the topic, we shouldn't be even noticing what she's wearing. She clearly wants to be noticed, but her clothing choices shouldn't be the takeaway from her presence at these "pressers".

PlanetBev

(4,104 posts)
25. I'm his neighbor over here In Westlake Village
Sun Apr 5, 2020, 06:48 PM
Apr 2020

This is like music to my ears. Gives me so much hope.

Thanks for sharing!

Laffy Kat

(16,383 posts)
26. Gasp!
Sun Apr 5, 2020, 06:51 PM
Apr 2020

And remember, Light63, YOU planted those seeds! You must have, because he called you, his brother, for validation of those feelings. Great job.

,

kimbutgar

(21,157 posts)
27. I love it
Sun Apr 5, 2020, 06:54 PM
Apr 2020

One less vote for mf45.

I know Calabasas really rich area. My cousin used to live there and whenever I visited thought it was a snotty rich area, he also was a Reagan repuke.

That said my husband works for a major airline carrier and a lot of mechanics are still drinking the koolaid. husband pointed out that it was the Democrats that put in that airline workers still get paid but they said no it was mf45. I think once one of them experiences the cv themselves or with a family member they will still be drinking the poison.

Mordred

(154 posts)
36. A Real Shame
Sun Apr 5, 2020, 07:30 PM
Apr 2020

that he doesn't live in a swing state instead of the state where Trump will lose by the most.

yuiyoshida

(41,831 posts)
38. I wonder how many Republicans will vote
Sun Apr 5, 2020, 07:36 PM
Apr 2020

for a Democrat this year? I hope many of them wake up enough to figure this out.

WinstonSmith4740

(3,056 posts)
40. I'm a teacher...
Sun Apr 5, 2020, 07:45 PM
Apr 2020

The high point of any day is an "Aha!" moment in one of our kids. That blinding flash behind their eyes when they "get it". My husband had it in 1996 when he watched the Republican Convention and told me he "didn't want to be associated with these people anymore". Your brother just had his. Great, aren't they?

SpankMe

(2,957 posts)
44. Nice sign of awakening. Unfortunately, it goes both ways.
Sun Apr 5, 2020, 08:05 PM
Apr 2020

I have a cousin from Texas. Hardcore conservative. Thought Obama was a joke. Wondered aloud why anyone would have gone to Obama's inauguration. He'd always been this way since he was born. We figured must be something in the water in Texas.

Then Trump entered the scene. Right after Trump got the nomination, my cousin went hard for Hillary. Thought (and still thinks) Trump's a laughingstock, incompetent and dangerous.

He sent money to Hillary's campaign and voted for her. And announces he did so - LOUDLY. In conversations with him, it became evident that he actually voted FOR Hillary and not against Trump. It was seriously not a protest vote. He preferred her policies overall.

Then, on the other hand, the brother of a very close friend of mine used to be a fierce, anti-establishment, anti-conservative liberal firebrand from high school through college and well into his 40's. Since Trump became POTUS, he's been surprisingly neutral on Trump. Unwilling to criticize him, always giving Trump a pass and how Trump still needs to be given a chance (after 3 years!) and pointing out how the Dems never complained when Obama and Clinton did the same thing that Trump is doing. (This, even though Obama never did anything that Trump is doing, and those areas of some overlap - like certain issues involving deportation and child separations that occurred under Obama - are differentiated in context, scope, rationale and humanity.)

Then there's those infuriating people to were staunch Obama supporters and then went hard for Trump citing Hillary as an imperfect candidate.

Aussie105

(5,401 posts)
53. Trump won the 2016 election
Mon Apr 6, 2020, 08:55 AM
Apr 2020

with the help of his overseas friends, and that he promised to enrich people's lives while putting the 'others' back in their place.

Three years of mismanagement, and Trump voting people are starting to see something the rest of us saw from the beginning, Trump can't manage the country or the economy. Or an emergency like a weather disaster, or a pandemic.

Death looming can make you see things more clearly. And his daily news briefings just reinforces his total incompetency.

His 'I have this magic snake oil here, see? It's going to cure everybody!' moment was probably the lowest point in his career as pretend POTUS.
(But he may outdo himself tomorrow.)



lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
56. MAGAts are cracking because this time the death threat is to THEMSELVES.
Mon Apr 6, 2020, 10:55 AM
Apr 2020

Nothing clarifies the mind like a death threat.

Latest Discussions»General Discussion»UNBELIEVABLE! The Changin...