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kentuck

(111,104 posts)
Wed Apr 8, 2020, 02:31 PM Apr 2020

Wisconsin is up Sh*t Creek.

They win the prize today. No one got more screwed than they.

They were forced to stand in long lines for hours, in the cold, some with masks, just to get to vote. And then, they will soon need a picture ID to vote? It sounds like the Russians are taking over Wisconsin. There is some alien force taking over the will of the majority of the people of that great state, the symbol of progressiveness. The minority find a way around the idea of democracy. And they have to prove they are Americans before they can vote?

By the rules of the road, the legislature was permitted to be led by the minority Party, because of the way the districts were gerrymandered? They appointed the majority of the Wisconsin Supreme Court. In a quick turnaround, the US Supreme upheld the Republican Wisconsin Supreme Court and ruled that they could not postpone an election, or vote by mail, and would have to proceed with the election as scheduled, even though the entire country is in the middle of a deadly epidemic.

What criminal would treat American citizens like that?

When a citizen has lost the right to vote, or to have their vote fairly counted, they have lost a basic freedom. It is a freedom guaranteed by our Constitution.

Wisconsin is just the canary in the coal mine. Either we stand up for our freedoms, and tell these people to go to hell, or we will lose everything our ancestors fought for in the last 240 years.

But wait. Be patient. The election is in November.

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Wisconsin is up Sh*t Creek. (Original Post) kentuck Apr 2020 OP
I can't help but ask - how many canaries do we need? I hope we are at saturation point. flor-de-jasmim Apr 2020 #1
The canaries are dying left and right but StarryNite Apr 2020 #26
A long time ago, the man said Dan Apr 2020 #2
I think our former Presidents should on some form of social media, pbmus Apr 2020 #3
"Taxation without representation is tyranny." safeinOhio Apr 2020 #4
Tell that to the citizens of DC ... aggiesal Apr 2020 #18
What was on the ballot in Wisconsin that would have been especially affected by low turnout? Gidney N Cloyd Apr 2020 #5
Supreme Court justice elections RhodeIslandOne Apr 2020 #7
An important WI Supreme Court race snacker Apr 2020 #9
The pandemic did not help. kentuck Apr 2020 #14
I cannot help but visualize SCJ Roberts presiding over the Impeached tRump asiliveandbreathe Apr 2020 #6
People need to be paying attention to this. TDale313 Apr 2020 #8
We are the test case on cheating the 2020 election. Greybnk48 Apr 2020 #10
Spot on, Kentuck. Firestorm49 Apr 2020 #11
Anti-democracy's laboratory Midnightwalk Apr 2020 #12
I thought Wisconsin was red Beringia Apr 2020 #13
At this moment plcdude Apr 2020 #15
Update April 30th plcdude Apr 2020 #33
And now plcdude May 2020 #34
Weren't the Koch Brothers instrumental in what has happened to Wisconsin? jalan48 Apr 2020 #16
Worse than the Russians, they've been taken over by the Republicans. spanone Apr 2020 #17
I've been saying this for years.... WinstonSmith4740 Apr 2020 #19
As a resident of Northern Wisconsin I can say that republicans in this state are as racist johnthewoodworker Apr 2020 #20
Look at the silver lining though dickthegrouch Apr 2020 #21
That is a good point... kentuck Apr 2020 #22
Wisconsin already needs a photo ID to vote - been that way for a couple years. GOP bullshittery. Rabrrrrrr Apr 2020 #23
That's okay. Igel Apr 2020 #31
Wisconsin has been under Republican siege for a decade. live love laugh Apr 2020 #24
Unfortuately, we are VERY gerrymandered also. riversedge Apr 2020 #28
Just about all of Wisconsin The Wizard Apr 2020 #25
It is hard to stand for for our freedoms when the US Supreme Court shoots us down. riversedge Apr 2020 #27
Nordenbluejay nordenbluejay Apr 2020 #29
taken years for GOP to establish a stanglehold in Wisconsin just like they have done elsewhere beachbumbob Apr 2020 #30
Everytime they get into power, there is some sort of disaster. kentuck Apr 2020 #32

pbmus

(12,422 posts)
3. I think our former Presidents should on some form of social media,
Wed Apr 8, 2020, 02:36 PM
Apr 2020

State very clearly that our republic is based on free and fair elections and to emphasize that there will be an election in November...

safeinOhio

(32,690 posts)
4. "Taxation without representation is tyranny."
Wed Apr 8, 2020, 02:39 PM
Apr 2020

The chant from the late 1700s that paved the way for our nation.

Anyone that is blocked from voting for their elected official should be excused from all taxes, Federal, State and Local.

Lets get back to what this country was founded on.

aggiesal

(8,919 posts)
18. Tell that to the citizens of DC ...
Wed Apr 8, 2020, 05:02 PM
Apr 2020

They have no representation in the House or Senate.

Their license plate says "Taxation without representation"

snacker

(3,619 posts)
9. An important WI Supreme Court race
Wed Apr 8, 2020, 02:46 PM
Apr 2020

between Dan Kelly (appointed by Scott Walker) and Jill Karofsky. Also an important Milwaukee Public School referendum.

asiliveandbreathe

(8,203 posts)
6. I cannot help but visualize SCJ Roberts presiding over the Impeached tRump
Wed Apr 8, 2020, 02:40 PM
Apr 2020

with him sitting on his hands...doing nothing..

TDale313

(7,820 posts)
8. People need to be paying attention to this.
Wed Apr 8, 2020, 02:45 PM
Apr 2020

This is a test for November. They are seeing how hard people will push back if they are disenfranchised. How much can they get away with fucking with the General election. Oh, and lookie here- they also want to grant themselves new powers to lock people up in cases of national emergencies- including those caused by “civil disobedience”

Go on. Tell me I’m being too cynical. I want to be wrong.

Greybnk48

(10,168 posts)
10. We are the test case on cheating the 2020 election.
Wed Apr 8, 2020, 02:53 PM
Apr 2020

We've been the test case since they cheated Walker and this pack of vile scum into office in 2010. The so-called teabaggers, funded by the Koch's, Bradley's, Mercer's and any other scumbag with money you can think of.

This is not new, but is a long term plan to take Wisconsin. Don't forget the International Headquarters of the John Birch Society (the Koch family), was moved to Joe McCarthy's (and my) hometown of Appleton WI in the late 80's early 90's right before the Gingrich clusterfuck in Congress and the march of the radical Republican Party started.

Firestorm49

(4,035 posts)
11. Spot on, Kentuck.
Wed Apr 8, 2020, 02:54 PM
Apr 2020

Living in WI where I grew up is more difficult by the day. Republicans simply don’t care what they say or what they do. They’ve rigged WI the way that what’s his name and his cabal is rigging the country. It’s honestly hard to imagine what’s up their sleeve for the fall, but here, just like in DC, it seems like there is nothing that can be done about it. And please don’t tell me that the vote can change things when nearly 200,000 more people voted for Democrats than Republicans in the last WI election, and yet Republicans retained control of the Senate and Assembly through corrupt, and secretly drafted gerrymandering. Here, just like at the Supreme Court, they own the majority of state Supreme Court seats. They’ve restricted our governor’s powers to where he’s nothing more than a figurehead , while they gave Skippy Walker wide sweeping control - the most of any governor in the country at that time. It’s sickening and it’s not representative government at work, as it is on the national scene as well.

We’re fighting a very tough competitor and seem to have water in our boots.

I’ll vote. I’ll write letters, send email and texts. I’ll contribute to our side. I’ll do what I can, but this is frightening, discomforting, and sinister.

Midnightwalk

(3,131 posts)
12. Anti-democracy's laboratory
Wed Apr 8, 2020, 03:06 PM
Apr 2020

For quite a long time now. It’s where republicans have been testing out new insidious ways of subverting democracy.

Yesterday was a trial run for November. Close most polling place in Milwaukee and force people to wait hours in line during a pandemic.

I have a lot of respect for the people in Wisconsin who have been fighting this crap since the scott walker sit ins.

“ Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable”

John F. Kennedy

plcdude

(5,310 posts)
15. At this moment
Wed Apr 8, 2020, 03:23 PM
Apr 2020

Wisconsin has 2,710 positive with 100 deaths at 3.7% mortality rate. Let’s see what voting with others does to them.

plcdude

(5,310 posts)
33. Update April 30th
Thu Apr 30, 2020, 10:30 AM
Apr 2020

At the start of this day 6520 cases, 308 deaths, 4.7% fatality rate, 4% cases growth rate, and 3% death growth rate. What did this election cost?

WinstonSmith4740

(3,056 posts)
19. I've been saying this for years....
Wed Apr 8, 2020, 05:15 PM
Apr 2020

The rethugs are always going to try to come up with slimier and slimier ideas to keep the "wrong" people (us) away from the voting booth, because as Drumpf just admitted, the more people who vote, the worse they do.

So instead of raging at the skies and wringing our hands over the latest wrinkle, how 'bout we try this. It's not like we don't have some damn wealthy people on our side of the political aisle. This is where the Bloombergs, Steyers and Soros' can come in. Instead of funding TV ads, how about paying for transportation to get folks to where they have to go to get that damned picture ID? Set up a grant fund that will pay for that ID. Lots of people looking for work right now...pay them to check voter roles to make sure people haven't been purged. We KNOW they'll shut down polling places. Run buses to take people to those remote polling places they'll replace them with. Set up phone banks to counter the lies about voting days and places. There's too much we can do, and we should start by using their own weapons (money) and tactics (scorched earth) against them.

 

johnthewoodworker

(694 posts)
20. As a resident of Northern Wisconsin I can say that republicans in this state are as racist
Wed Apr 8, 2020, 05:37 PM
Apr 2020

and hateful as anywhere else. Unless and until there are demonstrations in the street this country is compromised.

dickthegrouch

(3,175 posts)
21. Look at the silver lining though
Wed Apr 8, 2020, 05:53 PM
Apr 2020

The Supreme Court has said you can’t postpone an election.
Now we just have to survive until November.

Rabrrrrrr

(58,349 posts)
23. Wisconsin already needs a photo ID to vote - been that way for a couple years. GOP bullshittery.
Thu Apr 9, 2020, 10:30 AM
Apr 2020

The GOP have so totally fucked the state of Wisconsin, one wonders if that state will ever become the bastion of progressive, sensible, earth-friendly, across-the-aisle bipartisanship that it used to be admired for.

Igel

(35,320 posts)
31. That's okay.
Thu Apr 9, 2020, 02:40 PM
Apr 2020

SCOTUS didn't rule on postponing elections, just extending mail-in-balloting.

The WI supreme court didn't rule on mail-in balloting, just postponement.

Complementary, not complimentary, decisions.

live love laugh

(13,119 posts)
24. Wisconsin has been under Republican siege for a decade.
Thu Apr 9, 2020, 11:05 AM
Apr 2020

Republican fascists are desperate to retain power.

nordenbluejay

(42 posts)
29. Nordenbluejay
Thu Apr 9, 2020, 02:28 PM
Apr 2020

Could Bill Gates, Mike Bloomberg, and Tom Steyer coordinate an effort to outfit a caravan of semi-trucks and trailers to go from state to state producing, on location, free legal IDs for people? That would be money well spent.

 

beachbumbob

(9,263 posts)
30. taken years for GOP to establish a stanglehold in Wisconsin just like they have done elsewhere
Thu Apr 9, 2020, 02:38 PM
Apr 2020

doesn't mean the people can't take it back but they have to do more than just bitch about it

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