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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(108,234 posts)
Sat Apr 11, 2020, 01:59 PM Apr 2020

Forget church-state separation: U.S. government to pay pastors' salaries with relief funding

Well, here's something we didn't know was part of the $2 trillion federal relief package: a provision that makes it possible for some of that relief money to be directed toward religious institutions, according to NPR.

That's right, churches and other faith-based organizations have been designated within the legislation as "businesses," making them eligible to receive a portion of the $350 billion dedicated to helping small businesses weather tough economic times. Those are taxpayer dollars, folks, going to help faith-based organizations pay their pastors and utility bills.

"Faith-based organizations are eligible to receive SBA loans regardless of whether they provide secular social services," the SBA said in a statement. "No otherwise eligible organization will be disqualified from receiving a loan because of the religious nature, religious identity, or religious speech of the organization."

This seems a pretty clear-cut flouting of the Constitution. The First Amendment reads, "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof."

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2020/4/7/1935328/-Forget-church-state-separation-U-S-government-to-pay-pastors-salaries?detail=emaildkre

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Forget church-state separation: U.S. government to pay pastors' salaries with relief funding (Original Post) Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Apr 2020 OP
Those so called faith based charlatans should not receive one dime of taxpayer money. totodeinhere Apr 2020 #1
And, unlike small businesses, they never pay federal income tax. Nt spooky3 Apr 2020 #2
i see no problem with clergy and staff getting it as long as they pay taxes on their income. TexasProgresive Apr 2020 #3
My son in law who is a pastor pays quarterly taxes on his income. onecaliberal Apr 2020 #5
Exactly my point. TexasProgresive Apr 2020 #6
This is about small business income losses, not personal income losses. OneBro Apr 2020 #7
For the base! Newest Reality Apr 2020 #4
Might as well call it a church tax dalton99a Apr 2020 #8
Trump is buying votes. procon Apr 2020 #9

TexasProgresive

(12,159 posts)
3. i see no problem with clergy and staff getting it as long as they pay taxes on their income.
Sat Apr 11, 2020, 02:05 PM
Apr 2020

Most people assume that they don't pay income tax, but they are required to as is everyone else except big corporations and the very wealthy.

TexasProgresive

(12,159 posts)
6. Exactly my point.
Sat Apr 11, 2020, 02:17 PM
Apr 2020

I do know that some of these mega church evangelical types cheat and lie. They receive a small salary with a lot of untaxed high dollar perks. I doubt this is your son-in-law.

OneBro

(1,159 posts)
7. This is about small business income losses, not personal income losses.
Sat Apr 11, 2020, 02:24 PM
Apr 2020

Last edited Sat Apr 11, 2020, 03:23 PM - Edit history (1)

Income losses are dealt with in a different provision. This provision treats non-tax paying churches as though they are tax-paying small businesses. Besides, if these pastors and churches had the faith of a mustard seed, they wouldn't need a dime of secular money.

Newest Reality

(12,712 posts)
4. For the base!
Sat Apr 11, 2020, 02:07 PM
Apr 2020

All for the base in the last ditch efforts to keep the Evangelical Fundamentalist votes, etc.

The White House has not exactly been following the rule of law for a while now, so what do we expect? Flout he has and flout he will and just who's going to stop him? What can be done? Impeachment? That didn't work. Next?

procon

(15,805 posts)
9. Trump is buying votes.
Sat Apr 11, 2020, 02:31 PM
Apr 2020

That's illegal too. The Attorney General will be right on that, yep... any minute now...

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