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"Red Dawn" emails: Administration saw threat early (Original Post) Gothmog Apr 2020 OP
We are MFM008 Apr 2020 #1
This is just beginning. Gothmog Apr 2020 #3
Yep SilasSouleII Apr 2020 #7
Wolverine! Botany Apr 2020 #2
To put things in perspective this is 5,220 Benghazis. Initech Apr 2020 #4
And we'll need at least 20,000 investigations into trump's disaster. erronis Apr 2020 #22
Trump, Pence, and Kushner should all go to Supermax for this. Initech Apr 2020 #24
Lawler's 1:28 PM post says it all padah513 Apr 2020 #5
So Wawannabe Apr 2020 #6
tRump lied when said he never got Navarro's email. He was PaulRevere08 Apr 2020 #8
Wherever you go, click the link to the NYT story. MineralMan Apr 2020 #9
I read most of the 80 pages and I am really pissed Gothmog Apr 2020 #11
this demtenjeep Apr 2020 #34
Thanks for the prod: the pdf is now in my iBooks Hekate Apr 2020 #17
Thanks, MineralMan! trusty elf Apr 2020 #23
Much, much obliged, MM. Saved the .pdf too. MFGsunny Apr 2020 #32
The vile cretin should resign malaise Apr 2020 #10
SO... what if we all refused to go back to work until he does? 2naSalit Apr 2020 #12
in 2014 elections republicans used ebola very successfully and were planning to use it again imo certainot Apr 2020 #13
History will not be kind to this administration. cayugafalls Apr 2020 #14
Kick & recommended. William769 Apr 2020 #15
Thank you to whoever got these emails to the NYT! liberalla Apr 2020 #16
K&R smirkymonkey Apr 2020 #18
Whoa. Is a must read. Mersky Apr 2020 #19
If the orange asshole still gets re-elected after this information Javaman Apr 2020 #20
It would be better if these messages were known as the "Red Don" emails. Efilroft Sul Apr 2020 #21
perfect... dhill926 Apr 2020 #25
Sorry, my friend: applegrove beat you to it! Nacht Owl Apr 2020 #27
I am very happy to give that poster credit for this clever name Gothmog Apr 2020 #31
Well, hell! Glad I wasn't the only person thinking about it that way. Efilroft Sul Apr 2020 #33
Well, Mr. Muller disappointed a lot of people grumpyduck Apr 2020 #26
Slow as HELL Cha Apr 2020 #28
of course he did demtenjeep Apr 2020 #29
The Democrats have to compare the warnings in these emails with Trump's slow response RVN VET71 Apr 2020 #30
Yeah this is hitting him where he lives and he doesn't like it. Initech Apr 2020 #35
This message was self-deleted by its author Gothmog Apr 2020 #36

Botany

(70,510 posts)
2. Wolverine!
Sun Apr 12, 2020, 01:23 PM
Apr 2020



Not only did Donny blow of early warnings but he and JARED worked to find ways
to grift off of the coming pandemic.


PaulRevere08

(449 posts)
8. tRump lied when said he never got Navarro's email. He was
Sun Apr 12, 2020, 01:42 PM
Apr 2020

Upset that he put it in writing according to insiders.

MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
9. Wherever you go, click the link to the NYT story.
Sun Apr 12, 2020, 01:44 PM
Apr 2020

At the bottom of that story, you can click to see a PDF of the full 80 pages. Open that in Adobe Reader and save it to your hard drive. That will let you read it at your own pace. It will also ensure that you have a copy, in case this is pulled.

Here's the link to the full PDF file:

https://int.nyt.com/data/documenthelper/6879-2020-covid-19-red-dawn-rising/66f590d5cd41e11bea0f/optimized/full.pdf

 

demtenjeep

(31,997 posts)
34. this
Sun Apr 12, 2020, 07:27 PM
Apr 2020

Wrt communitymitigation, I think weran out of timefor Seattle. Butthereare other cities and communitieswherewe
still can makea difference. I don' t understandwhy CaliforniaandNYC are notactingmoreaggressively. Timeto
focuson other parts of the countrywheremitigationmeasuresmightstillwork and where governors,mayors and
public healthofficials aremore receptiveto doingwhatworks. It feels like a replay of 1918. Somestateand local
leaderswillmakepoordecisionsand unfortunately theAmericanswho live in thosecommunitiesare goingto pay
dearlyforthe choicesbeingmadeby their leaders. Itis a shamethose lessonswere notlearned.

Hekate

(90,705 posts)
17. Thanks for the prod: the pdf is now in my iBooks
Sun Apr 12, 2020, 02:28 PM
Apr 2020

Now off to see if I can do the same to the NYT story.

What would we do without DU?

2naSalit

(86,636 posts)
12. SO... what if we all refused to go back to work until he does?
Sun Apr 12, 2020, 02:04 PM
Apr 2020

An demand that Pence go too, and Moscow Mitch.

 

certainot

(9,090 posts)
13. in 2014 elections republicans used ebola very successfully and were planning to use it again imo
Sun Apr 12, 2020, 02:06 PM
Apr 2020

the trail is there and the reporting should be done. they were getting ready to use ebola again but then there were advances in treatment. and then came covid and they were too stupid to realize the difference in ability to contain.

for ebola 2014 GOP got a lot of congress and senate by blaming obama and scaring everyone. muelller report target jerome corsi wrote about it all through oct and limbaugh mentioned it regularly in oct too. all stopped after the election success.

2019 ebola in congo was used too with limbaugh and sons talking about congolese in the caravans 'invading' the border. social media was used in congo to make that worse - getting locals to attack the clinics. they wanted to use it again.

any reference to ebola by trump re covid should be a red flag for media to follow. someone should ask trump about ebola at one of these blowhard sessions of his and let him link and compare.

cayugafalls

(5,641 posts)
14. History will not be kind to this administration.
Sun Apr 12, 2020, 02:10 PM
Apr 2020

With this much record of the timeline it is easy to see that trump was a fool who either let it happen on purpose or simply failed to respond because he was so dumb he could not wrap his head around it.

Of course, I fail to mention that it could also be his handlers wanting to plunge the country into chaos so they can rob the treasury even more and get their hands on more power. I shudder to think that those pulling strings behind the scenes are going to attempt a coup and pull democracy down. If the people start starving and protesting, I fear what this administration might enact to squash any rebellion by people impacted by this calamity.

Javaman

(62,530 posts)
20. If the orange asshole still gets re-elected after this information
Sun Apr 12, 2020, 02:48 PM
Apr 2020

We as a nation deserve all the misery we get

grumpyduck

(6,240 posts)
26. Well, Mr. Muller disappointed a lot of people
Sun Apr 12, 2020, 03:45 PM
Apr 2020

so let's hope that this turns into another Pentagon Papers and that someone like Bob Woodward goes after it.

RVN VET71

(2,691 posts)
30. The Democrats have to compare the warnings in these emails with Trump's slow response
Sun Apr 12, 2020, 04:58 PM
Apr 2020

He still hasn't taken meaningful action. His rhetoric is empty and changes with the wind blowing through his head. Without Fauci and Brix, and State leaders like Cuomo, Hogan, Newsom, and DeWine, there'd be thousands more deaths from covid-19, and even as the death toll rises, the president still calls for consideration to re-opening the country to business as usual in a month. A month!

He's wishing real, real hard for the stock market to get back on track, and to that end he is willing to kill 1,000s of Americans. I guess his thinking is that only people who die -- and their close relatives and friends -- will really care about the dead. And fully half of those relatives and close friends will be blaming Obama and Clinton anyway. The rest of us, he feels, will be like him: concerned about money not human lives that are not connected to us directly.

So, he feels with his brain, if the stock market goes back up, he'll win in November because most Americans (I think he actually believes this) will have forgotten the dead and those who suffered permanent debilitation because of covid-19 because, hell, look at the wealth moving around!

(And, in any case, there is always the old lying GOP's fallback of blaming problems you cause on your enemies. Damn you Obama! Why isn't he in jail for crippling our ability to respond to covid-19? And Hillary, too -- you have to believe, people, that those 30,000 emails contained information about pandemics and how the Dems could politicize it and blame the GOP, etc. etc.)

Initech

(100,079 posts)
35. Yeah this is hitting him where he lives and he doesn't like it.
Sun Apr 12, 2020, 07:34 PM
Apr 2020

Trump's whole thing the last year and a half has been how great the economy is. Well since the pandemic was declared, the economy has gone to hell in a hand basket because we were totally unprepared and ill informed about this. Now he's trying to weasel his way out of this and taking the lazy man's way out - by not listening to experts and pretending that it doesn't exist. His sheer, utter incompetence is going to get a lot more people killed than needed to be.

He's a spoiled toddler if he doesn't get his way, he goes and cries to mommy (Fox News) about it. He is totally unfit to lead us through this horrible crisis.

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