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KY_EnviroGuy

(14,492 posts)
Sun Apr 12, 2020, 09:52 PM Apr 2020

One of the largest pork processing facilities in the US is closing until further notice

One of the largest pork processing facilities in the US is closing until further notice
By Danielle Wiener-Bronner, CNN Business
Updated 12:42 PM ET, Sun April 12, 2020

Read here: https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/12/business/meat-plant-closures-smithfield/index.html

Excerpts:

One of the country's largest pork processing facilities is closing until further notice as employees fall ill with Covid-19. The closure puts the country's meat supply at risk, said the CEO of Smithfield, which operates the plant.

"The closure of this facility, combined with a growing list of other protein plants that have shuttered across our industry, is pushing our country perilously close to the edge in terms of our meat supply," the meat processor's chief executive, Kenneth Sullivan, said in a statement Sunday.
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The Sioux Falls, South Dakota, facility accounts for 4% to 5% of the country's pork production and employs about 3,700 people, according to Smithfield.

South Dakota Gov. Kristi Noem said during a Saturday news briefing that Smithfield employees accounted for more than half of the active coronavirus cases in the state. About 240 employees are sick, she said, out of roughly 430 active cases in the state. Because of that, she and the mayor of Sioux Falls recommended that Smithfield suspend operations for at least two weeks. The problem extends beyond South Dakota. Meat processors in Iowa and Pennsylvania have also shut their doors because of sick employees.

This is our society's payback for demanding dirt-cheap products from A-to-Z in any quantity and 24/7 availability.

KY............
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One of the largest pork processing facilities in the US is closing until further notice (Original Post) KY_EnviroGuy Apr 2020 OP
Is SD a no-lockdown state? jpak Apr 2020 #1
yes Celerity Apr 2020 #2
OMG! Break out the guns! jmbar2 Apr 2020 #3
This could get ugly, and it was likely avoidable. crickets Apr 2020 #4
Yes, with a comprehensive national plan in place... KY_EnviroGuy Apr 2020 #5
Breaks in the supply chain will definitely fuck things up. Initech Apr 2020 #10
First of all, Wellstone ruled Apr 2020 #6
It will be informative to see how this one holds up over time.... KY_EnviroGuy Apr 2020 #8
Irony,this plant was to supply Wellstone ruled Apr 2020 #9
Hard-core redneck clusters, not city. Hortensis Apr 2020 #14
Fully agree on the working together. Wellstone ruled Apr 2020 #22
Wow. I live in rural Georgia, Bible belt, and though no Hortensis Apr 2020 #24
So agree with the Wellstone ruled Apr 2020 #25
And especially in this era of great fear and acting out Hortensis Apr 2020 #28
My Spouse and I Wellstone ruled Apr 2020 #29
Despicable, and of course they can't help coloring views. Hortensis Apr 2020 #30
The Grand Island Wellstone ruled Apr 2020 #31
Ugly, all right. Our food supply would be just fine of course, Hortensis Apr 2020 #32
Fully understand what Wellstone ruled Apr 2020 #33
Can't believe we allowed that sale to China rictofen Apr 2020 #17
we can't even keep what few places that are open from being overrun by covid... Takket Apr 2020 #7
Breathe, breathe, breathe Poiuyt Apr 2020 #11
Damn! Look at the size of this place! A HERETIC I AM Apr 2020 #12
One of my most unforgettable experiences...... KY_EnviroGuy Apr 2020 #13
That would be unforgettable, all right. Hortensis Apr 2020 #15
You bring up a good point of discussion. KY_EnviroGuy Apr 2020 #19
I am a believer in the nefarious plan. These people are Hortensis Apr 2020 #21
Those meat processing plants are a horror. cwydro Apr 2020 #16
Sounds like a good time to give up meat madville Apr 2020 #18
Nothing wrong with that so long as people are conscious of.... KY_EnviroGuy Apr 2020 #20
Yeah but if you live in Michigan, Whitmer won't let you go buy veggie plants either! n/t zackymilly Apr 2020 #23
No pork. No bull. sandensea Apr 2020 #26
Zero impact on my mostly vegetarian food supply. hunter Apr 2020 #27

crickets

(25,981 posts)
4. This could get ugly, and it was likely avoidable.
Sun Apr 12, 2020, 10:13 PM
Apr 2020

There's no excuse for the lack of leadership at the state and federal level that could have slowed or lowered case rates. I am upset on behalf of the workers who are falling ill.

That said, nobody is doing what they should to try to stop the break in food supply. Tons of milk are being wasted, crops are rotting in the fields, while meat supplies are growing chancy. There's no plan. There is no plan at all.

Hungry people can get really angry really quickly.

It couldn't possibly be on purpose...

KY_EnviroGuy

(14,492 posts)
5. Yes, with a comprehensive national plan in place...
Sun Apr 12, 2020, 10:27 PM
Apr 2020

food supply worker protections would have had high priority, next to shielding medical workers. Food supply workers are a low pay group and probably have terrible health care coverage. Now, we're paying the price for decades of cheap food.

With a plan in place and perhaps even rehearsed in the plants, these factories perhaps would have shifted to say, half-production rates for worker protection and at least would still be open. Instead, we have a total crash.

Since Republicans can't govern, despise our government and are against regulations and labor laws, they are responsible.


KY.........

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
6. First of all,
Sun Apr 12, 2020, 10:42 PM
Apr 2020

Smithfield is a majority China owned Packinghouse. It is not just Souix Falls John Morrell Plant that has sick workers. The first 13 cases in South Dakota happened in Huron,all immigrant Somali workers.

This will get real ugly real quick. Watch for neighboring Plants in Iowa to close shortly.

KY_EnviroGuy

(14,492 posts)
8. It will be informative to see how this one holds up over time....
Sun Apr 12, 2020, 10:59 PM
Apr 2020
This plant soon will process 2 million chickens a week for Costco
Des Moines Register
12:40 p.m. EDT Apr. 12, 2020

Link: https://www.desmoinesregister.com/videos/news/2020/04/12/see-inside-plant-processes-1-million-chickens-week-costcochicken/2866441001/

See inside the plant that soon will process 2 million chickens a week for CostcoChicken

Workers process chickens for Costco at the Lincoln Premium Poultry plant in Fremont Nebraska. Note: These scenes were filmed in February, before the adoption of social distancing measures to limit the spread of of coronavirus.

Even with enhanced precautions inside these plants, they can't control what workers do outside the gate......
 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
9. Irony,this plant was to supply
Mon Apr 13, 2020, 12:02 AM
Apr 2020

Costco with all their Chicken products. Not. They had to rework their supply Chain in order to meet their Customer Demand.

Yes,this is going to get real interesting how this plays out. Not only will the Covid raise hell with the mostly immigrant labor force,these same people have to deal with a hard core Redneck city.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
14. Hard-core redneck clusters, not city.
Mon Apr 13, 2020, 03:05 AM
Apr 2020

Except for small businesses whose owners specifically hire and encourage bigots, there are always decent people around and more of them. And big businesses tend to require people to work together without causing trouble; for obvious reasons, HR frowns on troublemakers.

I read that a large poultry processor in south GA sent over 400 employees home with pay for two weeks because of increasing incidence of COVID in their county, as a control for spread, not because any were infected. Poultry companies have a huge interest in keeping their plants open, of course. Protections lagged need, also of course, but now workers in general, not just Costco plants, are being tested, wearing masks, etc. We'll see how they work. Two from a south GA plant died recently.

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
22. Fully agree on the working together.
Mon Apr 13, 2020, 12:39 PM
Apr 2020

My reference to the Redneckism comes from being on the ground and interacting with the locals over a period of two decades. Have to say,the idiots out number the sane.

And the local Bigots wear their badge of hatred on their sleeves.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
24. Wow. I live in rural Georgia, Bible belt, and though no
Mon Apr 13, 2020, 01:07 PM
Apr 2020

doubt racism is prevalent, overt expressions are not considered respectable -- except by some against liberalism and Democrats, but they don't know political bigotry is bigotry. And although heavily white and extremely conservative politically, our schools, government, workplaces and other gatherings have long been integrated. A tiny local KKK nest dried up and blew away over 15 years ago because people in this county refused to reward their attempts to act out with attention.

Also, of course liberal and conservative are the two big personality types, genetically linked before political orientations are developed. Very loosely, roughly half of humanity is wired liberal and the other wired conservative. So I know a lot of political conservatives here whose attitudes cause me to suspect they're either naturally liberal by personality or only moderately conservative, not that I'd insult them by saying so, , but it does help in choosing what we can talk about. We're California liberals, btw, one atheist, one Jew, so lots of provocation for the kind of acting out you see for those inclined. And we do see that too.

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
25. So agree with the
Mon Apr 13, 2020, 01:59 PM
Apr 2020

Political orientation. Sad to say,the Northern Redneck is more dangerous than a Southern one. They tend to voice there Ignorance and Racism with out regard to any harm caused in the immediate situation. As you mentioned,in your area,racial bias it there 24/7,but it simmers just below the surface.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
28. And especially in this era of great fear and acting out
Mon Apr 13, 2020, 02:12 PM
Apr 2020

against too much change too fast, and of course unprecedented planet-wide problems.

I don't blame them, though, without remembering that their current leaders are incredibly bad and have encouraged them to become close to the very worst versions of their political selves. Yes, they elected them, but since the 1960s techniques for mass manipulation have become increasingly sophisticated. Some never stood a chance and are hopeless cases; most were influenced but, like me on the other side, without special malice and still hoping and mostly believing that things would eventually calm and return to something like normal.

Not any more, of course. Not any time soon.

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
29. My Spouse and I
Mon Apr 13, 2020, 02:36 PM
Apr 2020

used to really look forward to spending our summer months in Rural Midwest. Not any more. Once this Orange POS was elected,things changed for the worse. Mentioned a bit about Freemont,well,here you go,stopped for Fuel at 7 + AM at the Casey's store on the main Drag. As I was fueling a Hispanic Lady pulled up to the Pump on the other side of us. Right away,I noticed she was having problems with the Pump operation and me being a old help full person,helped her with getting her Debt Card info as well as making sure she would be able to complete her transaction. As I am helping her,a 50ish white dude comes flying out of the C Store just screaming at me for helping that ****woman. That did it,this was not the first time and we had that happen two more times that summer on our return trip. Once in Grand Island,and again in Grand Junction. The later times were young white POS's in their jacked up Trucks.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
30. Despicable, and of course they can't help coloring views.
Mon Apr 13, 2020, 05:01 PM
Apr 2020

Forty years ago while driving from CA to AR, I pulled into a deluxe, sparklingly modern gas station at a major intersection (enough lights on that one corner for a small town) and while browsing a big coffee cup display saw one labeled "Mexican Coffee Cup." I like Mexico and Mexicans, so I checked it out and found to my shock that what made it "Mexican" was a giant ceramic cockroach inside. I never saw anything like that in even the scummiest holes in California. It's unfair to ascribe it to the whole state of Texas, but this place was an exemplar of TX's big, mostly white middle class boom and that's how I reacted.

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
31. The Grand Island
Mon Apr 13, 2020, 06:00 PM
Apr 2020

incident was pure ugly. We always used the KOA just east of town about 15 miles,both going too and coming back each year for 18 years . And as usual,we go into Grand to do our Laundry at the same Coin Laundry we stop at for all those years. This time we saw humans act like ignorant ,stupid idiots and down right ugly. Grand Island has a large JBS/Swift beef Kill operation which is staffed by Hispanics and Somali workers and a all white management staff. Most of the folks in the laundry were ladies doing their wash expect for a couple younger white guys. Well you guessed what happened,the White Guys went all Racist Nutso on the Somali ladies as well as the Hispanic ladies. After the lady working the laundry threw their butts out on the sidewalk and one of the Hispanic Ladies tossed their cloths out on top of them,we found out the two were sons of JBS line bosses and this was not their first go around.

Again,if it was not for our new Immigrants willing to work these hazardous jobs,which those two white boys were not willing to do,our Nations food supply would not exist. Working in a Packing House was one of my part time jobs in order to pay for my education. Know how friggin dangerous the cutting floor is.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
32. Ugly, all right. Our food supply would be just fine of course,
Mon Apr 13, 2020, 06:27 PM
Apr 2020

working conditions safer.

The laundry mat reminded me. They're mostly in low-income neighborhoods and probably too often hot spots where races mix. When we first moved to GA, a black friend of our son's told us he'd become friends with a white female friend in his apartment house but couldn't accompany to the laundromat for her safety because it was too potentially dangerous. In the 21st century!

As a real estate appraiser, I took assignments in some of L.A.'s gang neighborhoods that would have otherwise fallen to a couple of young men. A small, middle-aged white woman with a clipboard was a curiosity but never taken as a challenge; an occasional kid loping across the road in my direction for fun was about it. I was told to get in my car and leave once, but best I could guess it was a warning from a concerned citizen, didn't stay to ask questions.

Oh, well. We're still the nation who elected Obama twice. Things'll get better, they always do. Just hope they don't get worse first.

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
33. Fully understand what
Mon Apr 13, 2020, 06:58 PM
Apr 2020

was going through your mind as a Appraiser in a mostly ethnic neighborhood. There always seems to be someone who wants to earn his stripes as the banger on duty.

We elected Obama and we will elect another person of Color hopefully eight years.

Takket

(21,577 posts)
7. we can't even keep what few places that are open from being overrun by covid...
Sun Apr 12, 2020, 10:46 PM
Apr 2020

but rethugs want to reopen the country???

KY_EnviroGuy

(14,492 posts)
13. One of my most unforgettable experiences......
Mon Apr 13, 2020, 03:00 AM
Apr 2020

as a field service tech was to install an instrument in a local packing plant. Horribly slick floors, hot, steamy air, an odor that stayed with me for days and a warning that if a hog carcass fell off the overhead traveling line and hit me, it probably would kill me.

I've had friends work in those places and they all have had health problems as a result of the relentless pace, mainly joint issues and injuries from cuts and falls.

They're simply one of those places where few middle-class white Americans are willing to work.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
15. That would be unforgettable, all right.
Mon Apr 13, 2020, 03:50 AM
Apr 2020

These days most "middle class" kids of all colors seem to have grown up seeing themselves more as white collar. I suspect like the people on TV, whether the sitcoms show whites or mnorities. Three subcontractors who built our house in semirural north GA felt a need to explain immigrant labor because local kids wouldn't take the jobs, or do them if they did. Our contractor, btw, was the best in the area (the head of the local building department told me he'd built 3 houses for him), and his subs were also excellent, in demand and well paid. I mean, these are good trainee jobs, paths to solid middle class, and even better in the case of some, incomes. The kids, probably children of their friends, neighbors, fellow churchgoers, wanted something else for themselves.

The Republican politicians who caused a huge problem by denying visas to seasonal seafood workers undoubtedly imagined people from the low-income coastal area would take the jobs. Uhuh. They're just not appropriate aspirations for those whose parents live the American dream, even modestly.

KY_EnviroGuy

(14,492 posts)
19. You bring up a good point of discussion.
Mon Apr 13, 2020, 11:20 AM
Apr 2020

Back when Trump was demonizing anyone in sight that is not white and born in America, and particularly migrant workers, I immediately wondered who they proposed would replace workers in numerous sectors in commerce and industry (based on what I've seen out in the real world):

* Roofers: for years around here, almost all roofing crews have been Mexican.
* Clean-up crews in large, dirty plants like power, pulp and paper and cement plants:They always do the hot and nasty parts.
* Room service people in motels and hotels.
* Commercial and residential lawn care crews.
* Food gathering and processing industries: beef and chicken (and as you said, seafood) processing in particular but also seasonal crews to pick fruit and vegetable crops (I remember Georgia and Alabama farmers saying they would go bankrupt without illegal immigrants).

The reason I'm re-hashing all that is because I have not seen any investigative journalism on how this has worked out with these businesses affected since Trump came into office.

In other words, what have they done to replace those workers, or are they still using illegals? Something tells me they have not been replaced with those from our failing native middle class. Or, perhaps they have a nefarious plan to force the failed middle class into poverty so they have no choice but take whatever low-paying jobs are available.

One thing's for sure: right-wingers have destroyed many of the rungs one needs to climb the ladder to success.

KY................

PS: I like the way you phrased this: "These days most "middle class" kids of all colors seem to have grown up seeing themselves more as white collar."

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
21. I am a believer in the nefarious plan. These people are
Mon Apr 13, 2020, 11:36 AM
Apr 2020

relentlessly mean and disrespectful toward all levels of working people, their behaviors more than whiff of fascism these days -- they stink, and of course the Republicans have doubled down on their identity as the white male power party of the wealthy.

Everything they do lessens the power of working people as citizens, in the workplace, under government and the judiciary. The right is working to degrade education and refusing to train for needed skills. Of course they're not herding all one direction by accident. After automation eliminates millions of jobs, today's kids, and their parents, are expected to take or compete for what remain of the low-pay jobs. Or do without.

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
16. Those meat processing plants are a horror.
Mon Apr 13, 2020, 05:22 AM
Apr 2020

Sorry for people to lose work, but not sorry they’re closing.

madville

(7,412 posts)
18. Sounds like a good time to give up meat
Mon Apr 13, 2020, 06:55 AM
Apr 2020

I rarely eat meat these days myself, hopefully if meat runs low it will make some people become less dependent on it in the long run.

KY_EnviroGuy

(14,492 posts)
20. Nothing wrong with that so long as people are conscious of....
Mon Apr 13, 2020, 11:33 AM
Apr 2020

the need to maintain balance in our diets with other sources of those nutrients such as protein. I believe there are a number of vegetarian web sites that do just that.

I'm a retired male of 72 and I cook for my son and I (he's 34) as best I can. After hearing how meat prices have skyrocketed recently, I told him we may have to make major changes in our meal planning. Thank goodness we both like steamed and sauteed veges, but he's having trouble breaking his addiction to fast foods.

So yes, I agree with you it's great that we'll become less dependent on meats to help reduce the stress on our planet.

KY..........

hunter

(38,317 posts)
27. Zero impact on my mostly vegetarian food supply.
Mon Apr 13, 2020, 02:08 PM
Apr 2020

I'm just hoping my Berserker cannibal ancestors are not awakened.

We can never forget... people are made of meat.

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