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comradebillyboy

(10,154 posts)
Mon Apr 13, 2020, 10:16 AM Apr 2020

Ocasio-Cortez Says Biden Has Not Reached Out to Her

https://politicalwire.com/2020/04/13/ocasio-cortez-says-biden-has-not-reached-out-to-her/

Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-NY) made clear to the New York Times that she intended to support Joe Biden as the Democratic nominee, but said his current overtures to progressives must go further.

Said Ocasio-Cortez: “The whole process of coming together should be uncomfortable for everyone involved — that’s how you know it’s working. And if Biden is only doing things he’s comfortable with, then it’s not enough.”

She also said the Biden campaign has not yet reached out to her.
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Ocasio-Cortez Says Biden Has Not Reached Out to Her (Original Post) comradebillyboy Apr 2020 OP
Post removed Post removed Apr 2020 #1
Exactly. Too full of herself. jrthin Apr 2020 #13
Girl? Isn't she an adult woman? jimfields33 Apr 2020 #60
It's an expression..n/t monmouth4 Apr 2020 #61
A fucked up expression in this case. / nt tonedevil Apr 2020 #71
Hmmmm. Perhaps it shouldn't be on a democratic forum jimfields33 Apr 2020 #72
Delete your sexist slur please. nt PufPuf23 Apr 2020 #101
I bet you'd never catch that poster calling a grown white man "boy". nt. Mariana Apr 2020 #66
Exactly jimfields33 Apr 2020 #69
I think it is more in reference PatSeg Apr 2020 #113
I agree with you jimfields33 Apr 2020 #128
Yes, I understand that PatSeg Apr 2020 #133
Wow that's patronizing Algernon Moncrieff Apr 2020 #74
TY. I couldn't have said it better myself... Kahuna Apr 2020 #119
Talk about the purity police showing up to chastise you! Hekate Apr 2020 #123
Gonna ask her to make you a sandwich next? nt sweetloukillbot Apr 2020 #127
Can she get bread? I can't find any anywhere. nt zackymilly Apr 2020 #129
Seems unlikely to happen. lagomorph777 Apr 2020 #2
Me, me, me. Is she a doctor that can help with the nation's most pressing issue? dem4decades Apr 2020 #3
MEMEMEMEMEMEMEMEMEMEMEMEME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! empedocles Apr 2020 #76
And he should be doing so, why? mcar Apr 2020 #4
She would make a great VP candidate., fescuerescue Apr 2020 #5
She does not meet the age requirements for VP Squidly Apr 2020 #10
She will be 35 in October of 2024. fescuerescue Apr 2020 #14
Good catch Squidly Apr 2020 #18
The reality is she's not old enough to make a "great VP candidate" now. HarlanPepper Apr 2020 #11
Correct fescuerescue Apr 2020 #15
She may not be old enough then either, depending on when her b-day falls. HarlanPepper Apr 2020 #19
That could easily mean "If not now... (Because of her current age) OriginalGeek Apr 2020 #108
In your dreams True Blue American Apr 2020 #17
It's not about Biden owing her. Or her owing Biden fescuerescue Apr 2020 #21
No, it is about her True Blue American Apr 2020 #24
I am very surprised you did not say she is "shrill" Skittles Apr 2020 #41
As a Woman I can say she is that,too. True Blue American Apr 2020 #43
I disagree Skittles Apr 2020 #45
Your right True Blue American Apr 2020 #52
you're Skittles Apr 2020 #63
No, Your in this case. True Blue American Apr 2020 #68
Actually, this is a standard political ploy by someone who Hortensis Apr 2020 #50
I think she got too much media attention PatSeg Apr 2020 #116
Democrat area??? Dem4Life1102 Apr 2020 #44
Please consider that there are significant numbers of good PufPuf23 Apr 2020 #102
She will be forgotten after she loses the primary GeorgiaPeanut Apr 2020 #39
Besides being too young. She picked the wrong side. LakeArenal Apr 2020 #53
The bridges were burned by her. Her job to fix things. Scurrilous Apr 2020 #100
Ayup! nt zackymilly Apr 2020 #130
"Democrats can be too big of a tent." lapucelle Apr 2020 #107
I am wondering why Joe needs to pay attention to her Gothmog Apr 2020 #111
... lapucelle Apr 2020 #120
Here's one of the things she had to say about unity lapucelle Apr 2020 #124
Nope RobinA Apr 2020 #57
No she wouldn't. She could not even win the Senate or the governorship in New York...she can Demsrule86 Apr 2020 #91
You're correct demosincebirth Apr 2020 #98
Yeah, it's not like Biden needs to worry about voters in New York's 14th congressional district sop Apr 2020 #110
She strikes me as more of a media personality than a leader. lapucelle Apr 2020 #99
Long read. Has some of that in there plus a lot of other stuff some of which I liked. Scurrilous Apr 2020 #135
No mzmolly Apr 2020 #103
Even in 4 years AOC will not be a good Vice President candidate Gothmog Apr 2020 #112
Not even a little bit Hekate Apr 2020 #121
warren as VP now. Runs in 2024 with AOC as her running mate. jorgevlorgan Apr 2020 #126
It's a fucking pandemic lady. It's not about you. You sound like a spoiled child. memememememe Maru Kitteh Apr 2020 #6
+1 HarlanPepper Apr 2020 #12
She seems a bit self centered doesn't she? comradebillyboy Apr 2020 #16
Slightly. Little bit. Maru Kitteh Apr 2020 #32
Maybe more that she has bought the narrative of others that she is a superstar karynnj Apr 2020 #88
+1,000,000 GeorgiaPeanut Apr 2020 #36
I know, right? crickets Apr 2020 #47
This message was self-deleted by its author elocs Apr 2020 #7
You are exactly right. n/t phylny Apr 2020 #48
This isn't about YOU Rep Ocasio-Cortez. Get over your self-importance ego still_one Apr 2020 #8
Try reaching out to him frazzled Apr 2020 #9
+1000 demigoddess Apr 2020 #65
Sometimes it's hard to take her seriously. nt Phoenix61 Apr 2020 #20
I think her position is reasonable.nt delisen Apr 2020 #22
Care to elaborate why? Docreed2003 Apr 2020 #23
She is a jr. congresswoman why would he reach out to her and not others with more seniority? redstatebluegirl Apr 2020 #25
..and shes been in HOW long???..and one of how many?... samnsara Apr 2020 #26
Bash bash bash Docreed2003 Apr 2020 #27
Ummm... you're a Freshman Congresswoman..... Happy Hoosier Apr 2020 #28
What has she said about the Democratic socialists tweeting that they do not support Biden? Tech Apr 2020 #29
How is her re-election coming along? left-of-center2012 Apr 2020 #30
Perhaps she simply responded to a question form the reporters? RandySF Apr 2020 #31
that would not stop the baying mob Skittles Apr 2020 #42
I suspect that is the case mcar Apr 2020 #79
Why should he? The Velveteen Ocelot Apr 2020 #33
There are 232 Democratic House members; Biden probably hasn't spoken to most of them brooklynite Apr 2020 #34
SHE is supposed to reach out to Biden and not vice versa GeorgiaPeanut Apr 2020 #35
When she gets up every day is her first thought EllieBC Apr 2020 #37
She Needs To Be Doing Some Reaching Out Me. Apr 2020 #38
do presidental candidates normally reach out to the House reps of their party a week after securing Takket Apr 2020 #40
Has she snowybirdie Apr 2020 #46
Biden said a most important factor will be how he gets along.. LAS14 Apr 2020 #49
Too bad this gossipy crap is no longer relegated to the primary forum SaintLouisBlues Apr 2020 #51
Dear AOC JustAnotherGen Apr 2020 #54
Oh, for fuck's sake. I keep trying to like her, and then seeing shit like this. Squinch Apr 2020 #55
DiSqUaLiFiEd!!!!! awesomerwb1 Apr 2020 #56
Stating that "the process of coming together should be uncomfortable for everyone" c-rational Apr 2020 #58
Why should Joe Biden reach out to AOC? Gothmog Apr 2020 #59
Cuz she's ready for her close-up Mr. DeMille ucrdem Apr 2020 #70
Ouch. Some thoughts are better left unexpressed. ucrdem Apr 2020 #62
"AOC slams Dem centrists as 'Tea Party of the left,' suggests Biden shouldn't be in same party" LakeArenal Apr 2020 #64
LOL, and now she's wondering why her phone isn't ringing. ucrdem Apr 2020 #67
Not hard to track her "stuff" LakeArenal Apr 2020 #75
Biden should bring her onstage during college campus rallies Algernon Moncrieff Apr 2020 #73
BS rallies empedocles Apr 2020 #77
Her lack of experience is showing. Runningdawg Apr 2020 #78
Lame. Where's her offer to help? Nt Nululu Apr 2020 #80
Yeah! What's wrong with Biden? He hasn't reached out to me, either! DFW Apr 2020 #81
ego much? stillcool Apr 2020 #82
Actually this helps Biden. OrlandoDem2 Apr 2020 #83
Has OAC Endorsed Joe & Reached Out to Him? SheltieLover Apr 2020 #84
if he's as smart as I know he is.... quickesst Apr 2020 #85
They Asked Her if Biden and Reached Out and Her Answer Was No - Giver Her a Break on This Indykatie Apr 2020 #86
Has she reached out to Biden? It sounds like she expects to be courted lapucelle Apr 2020 #87
Some of the responses to this young courageous woman are ominous. BeckyDem Apr 2020 #89
I don't see her as particularly courageous. She's a politician, plain and simple. lapucelle Apr 2020 #97
Go away, AOC Progressive dog Apr 2020 #90
Why should he? calguy Apr 2020 #92
AOC is very very impressed with herself calguy Apr 2020 #93
Oh, my! A Freshman House Rep. Reaches out to the Presidential Candidate MineralMan Apr 2020 #94
Exactly PatSeg Apr 2020 #117
Still, Sir, I Expect Mr. Biden Would Take Her Call The Magistrate Apr 2020 #95
Oh wow. I like AOC but she needs to learn some tact. She's a freshman Vivienne235729 Apr 2020 #96
I don't think the process of coming together should be uncomfortable. LisaM Apr 2020 #104
What a sense of absolute entitlement JT45242 Apr 2020 #105
Why would he? W_HAMILTON Apr 2020 #106
When this meet up happens tirebiter Apr 2020 #109
Why link to an excerpt when the original NY Times article is a more accurate take on the interview? SharonClark Apr 2020 #114
I don't have an NY Times subscripton or I would comradebillyboy Apr 2020 #115
I don't think that Joe needs to reach out to each and every member of Congress. totodeinhere Apr 2020 #118
Has she thought about reaching out to HIM? How can I help, kind of thing? Hekate Apr 2020 #122
If the young congresswoman persists in behaving in this jejeune manner, a once-promising career... Hekate Apr 2020 #125
AOC is a Queen Bee. madaboutharry Apr 2020 #131
Biden was just endoresed by Sanders Gothmog Apr 2020 #132
Let's all help primary her. She loves the idea of Dems primarying incumbent SiliconValley_Dem Apr 2020 #134

Response to comradebillyboy (Original post)

PatSeg

(47,501 posts)
113. I think it is more in reference
Mon Apr 13, 2020, 02:05 PM
Apr 2020

to how she is behaving. We are in the midst of a global crisis. Maybe other people have more important issues to deal with than catering to her. Ocasio-Cortez needs to start behaving like a congressional representative instead of a celebrity.

PatSeg

(47,501 posts)
133. Yes, I understand that
Mon Apr 13, 2020, 03:23 PM
Apr 2020

and normally it might bother me, but in this context, I found it rather appropriate.

fescuerescue

(4,448 posts)
5. She would make a great VP candidate.,
Mon Apr 13, 2020, 10:21 AM
Apr 2020

Of course not now due to the technical issue of age, but certainly when he runs for re-election in 2024.

The reality is that AOC is one of the nations real leaders and Biden should be working with her. (regardless of age or position.)

 

HarlanPepper

(2,042 posts)
19. She may not be old enough then either, depending on when her b-day falls.
Mon Apr 13, 2020, 10:32 AM
Apr 2020

And you said “if not now” which indicates you thought it was an option in 2020. Don’t feel bad, there are a ton of people here who don’t know the age requirements.

OriginalGeek

(12,132 posts)
108. That could easily mean "If not now... (Because of her current age)
Mon Apr 13, 2020, 01:46 PM
Apr 2020

...then in 2024 when she will meet the minimum age requirement."

Don't feel bad, there are tons of people who misinterpret posts here every day.

True Blue American

(17,986 posts)
17. In your dreams
Mon Apr 13, 2020, 10:30 AM
Apr 2020

AOC was lucky enough to oust an older Democrat in a Democrat area.

I have seen not one ounce of common sense since she won. She is one of hundreds in Congress.

Joe Biden owes her nothing!

fescuerescue

(4,448 posts)
21. It's not about Biden owing her. Or her owing Biden
Mon Apr 13, 2020, 10:33 AM
Apr 2020

They both owe us.

While 200 year old restrictions block her from joining as VP now, that's doesn't mean she's not a leader.

Ask any random under 30 something to name a Congressman and AOC is going to be at the top of the list.

Biden owes US to consult and work with her for OUR benefit.

True Blue American

(17,986 posts)
24. No, it is about her
Mon Apr 13, 2020, 10:40 AM
Apr 2020

Thinking she is so self important she needs to be catered to! She doesn’t!

Biden has more important things to do. He reached out a hand to Bernie and his supporters. I listened to that very important speech.

She is just whining, clamoring for attention. A spoiled child needs to be ignored.Act like one,you deserve it. Those are Trump tactics.

True Blue American

(17,986 posts)
43. As a Woman I can say she is that,too.
Mon Apr 13, 2020, 11:02 AM
Apr 2020
AOC has ticked off more people who are really good DEmocrats. They want her to shut up.

I hear it every time she whines again. Like threatening to hold up the relief bill if they did not come back and vote in person. Risking lives.

True Blue American

(17,986 posts)
52. Your right
Mon Apr 13, 2020, 11:13 AM
Apr 2020

To disagree! I see her as more harm than good. I am an outspoken woman used to speaking my mind, but am also smart enough to know when it is time to listen.

She is an elected Official,I am not. Her candidate lost so cool the jets,get on board the party to win.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
50. Actually, this is a standard political ploy by someone who
Mon Apr 13, 2020, 11:10 AM
Apr 2020

has a genuine following and thus is a genuine power center, though that could slip away.

So far Biden has been trying to reach out directly to young Americans, which she says she wants. But it's perfectly understandable that she wants to hitch herself to the next POTUS and encourage young people to filter his messages through her. She and hundreds of others busily trying to grab on.

Fescuerescue, Ocasio has a real problem you may not be aware of. She's demonstrated some very serious problems of judgement and principles, for instance allying with anti-Democratic extremists and supporting attempted primary election theft and systematic swiftboating of the Democratic Party. Our leadership know a great deal about her, and worst case may be that they don't think she's the right stuff to bring along. That's just speculation, but for sure others who've proven themselves honorable liberals are also eager to fill the role she has in mind for herself.

In any case, though, give her another 15-20 years, then let her well documented record say who and what she is then. If she's still in government.

PatSeg

(47,501 posts)
116. I think she got too much media attention
Mon Apr 13, 2020, 02:18 PM
Apr 2020

too fast and a lot of it went to her head. Being elected to congress is an honor and she should show more humility and respect to those who have served for years before her.

I think she is smart and talented, but her tenure in DC will be short if she doesn't start to show some maturity. She could start by saying less and listening more. She has constituents to represent and they didn't elect her to become a media celebrity.

And I will not call her by her initials. That is something that is earned. FDR, JFK, LBJ, RFK, MLK - these people actually accomplished something.

PufPuf23

(8,791 posts)
102. Please consider that there are significant numbers of good
Mon Apr 13, 2020, 01:30 PM
Apr 2020

Democratic party members and voters that find what you say offensive and counter productive.

LakeArenal

(28,820 posts)
53. Besides being too young. She picked the wrong side.
Mon Apr 13, 2020, 11:14 AM
Apr 2020

Did she endorse Biden? I missed that.

She burned her bridge for me. She needs to rebuild it. Not Joe.

Scurrilous

(38,687 posts)
100. The bridges were burned by her. Her job to fix things.
Mon Apr 13, 2020, 01:26 PM
Apr 2020

One of my angriest days.



I had just read something where Trump had called for cuts to disability (not this article, another one that I can't find).

Trump Calls for Social Security Cuts for the 4th Consecutive Year

https://www.fool.com/retirement/2020/02/21/trump-calls-for-social-security-cuts-for-the-4th-c.aspx

And what do I see soon after on twitter? This absolute load of dung. And nothing at all about Trump.




Resultant WTF thread:

Different Day Different Surrogate Same Smear - Are They Taking Turns?

https://www.democraticunderground.com/1287439510

Her tweet was in the AM. A few hours later the screw turned for her as the internet struck back and that snide ass 'I don’t understand why some folks run as if the internet doesn’t exist' became the day's punchline:




Yep. She picked the wrong side.

lapucelle

(18,275 posts)
120. ...
Mon Apr 13, 2020, 02:28 PM
Apr 2020
Hubris Comes From Ancient Greece

English picked up both the concept of hubris and the term for that particular brand of cockiness from the ancient Greeks, who considered hubris a dangerous character flaw capable of provoking the wrath of the gods. In classical Greek tragedy, hubris was often a fatal shortcoming that brought about the fall of the tragic hero. Typically, overconfidence led the hero to attempt to overstep the boundaries of human limitations and assume a godlike status, and the gods inevitably humbled the offender with a sharp reminder of his or her mortality.

Did You Know?

To the Greeks, hubris referred to extreme pride, especially pride and ambition so great that they offend the gods and lead to one's downfall. Hubris was a character flaw often seen in the heroes of classical Greek tragedy, including Oedipus and Achilles. The familiar old saying "Pride goeth before a fall" is basically talking about hubris


https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/hubris#note-1

lapucelle

(18,275 posts)
124. Here's one of the things she had to say about unity
Mon Apr 13, 2020, 02:40 PM
Apr 2020
And what I hope does not happen in this process is that everyone just tries to shoo it along and brush real policies — that mean the difference of life and death or affording your insulin and not affording your insulin — just brush that under the rug as an aesthetic difference of style."




https://www.axios.com/aoc-joe-biden-2020-campaign-bernie-sanders-4cd39100-784a-41d4-aa7a-27f0d9a8ea1a.html

RobinA

(9,893 posts)
57. Nope
Mon Apr 13, 2020, 11:20 AM
Apr 2020

Too many people hate her. She would be a liability. Biden's age makes it imperative that he select someone who people will readily accept as a possible President. Oh, let me take that back. Somebody that sane people could see as President. We already know what SOME people will accept as President.

Demsrule86

(68,586 posts)
91. No she wouldn't. She could not even win the Senate or the governorship in New York...she can
Mon Apr 13, 2020, 12:45 PM
Apr 2020

only win in the bluest districts in New York. And she has a well funded primary challenger. I think she needs Biden at the moment for her own reasons perhaps to win reelection.

sop

(10,193 posts)
110. Yeah, it's not like Biden needs to worry about voters in New York's 14th congressional district
Mon Apr 13, 2020, 01:57 PM
Apr 2020

going for Trump, or losing New York state's electoral college vote in November.

I like Ocasio-Cortez. She's a smart, talented, attractive one-term congresswoman who's managed to capture the imagination of young Democratic voters. But, let's face it, Joe's more worried about carrying Ohio, Pennsylvania and Florida than gaining traction in the Bronx and Queens.

lapucelle

(18,275 posts)
99. She strikes me as more of a media personality than a leader.
Mon Apr 13, 2020, 01:25 PM
Apr 2020

I prefer Ayanna Pressley and Katie Porter.

Scurrilous

(38,687 posts)
135. Long read. Has some of that in there plus a lot of other stuff some of which I liked.
Mon Apr 13, 2020, 08:02 PM
Apr 2020
The Green New Deal and Our Manic Pixie Dream Politics (2/19/2019)

Understanding Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez as a cultural phenomenon

https://arcdigital.media/the-green-new-deal-and-our-manic-pixie-dream-politics-7e6fa348de65

Gothmog

(145,321 posts)
112. Even in 4 years AOC will not be a good Vice President candidate
Mon Apr 13, 2020, 02:01 PM
Apr 2020

So far she has no accomplishments

Maru Kitteh

(28,341 posts)
6. It's a fucking pandemic lady. It's not about you. You sound like a spoiled child. memememememe
Mon Apr 13, 2020, 10:22 AM
Apr 2020

WHY HASN'T HE CALLED ME YET?


Maru Kitteh

(28,341 posts)
32. Slightly. Little bit.
Mon Apr 13, 2020, 10:45 AM
Apr 2020

State-run media and their natural allies have been MORE than happy to provide her with an outsized profile and credit her with influence she doesn't actually yet possess. There's a reason for that.


karynnj

(59,504 posts)
88. Maybe more that she has bought the narrative of others that she is a superstar
Mon Apr 13, 2020, 12:28 PM
Apr 2020

Reading the NYT article, she is speaking of the issues - not of herself as the messenger. She is, however, interpreting the exit polling for primaries to support exactly HER position, when the questions were far more ambiguous.

Many questions asked about universal health care coverage - which can be interpreted as either ACA , expanded with a public option and holes created by the Republicans fixed or Medicare for all. Not that Medicare for all is usually not defined precisely. If it were, it would be closer to Medicaid for all - because Medicare has a premium and only pays 80%. Medicare for all replaced "single payer" because proponents knew that it would be more positively viewed. There were other polls where the hybrid mess - some people getting employer provided insurance and some using ACA - actually polled better than a single payer system where everyone got basic insurance from a government plan.

Arguing that HRC allowing everyone over 50 to join Medicare was better than Biden wanting everyone above 60 to be able to do so. In reality, there are questions on BOTH of these positions. Do they mean that people in those categories could PURCHASE Medicare (as it is now for people over 65)? That was whet the 2009 proposal that Lieberman defeated would have done for everyone 55 or older. I assume that for any plan, it will depend on the CBO analysis which would be done only when the actual details of the plan are spelled out. I would suspect that the RESULT would be identical for either the HRC or the Biden "program". The age, the cost and how it is worked out will be defined by what could pass the House and Senate.

On other issues, like climate change, I give her credit for energizing some people who were complacent before, but I think more respect should be given to people - like John Kerry - who actually pulled off getting the UN's countries all behind a goal to move in the right direction. That was no easy feat -- and he was the first to say it was not enough. She agrees that it was not enough, but ignores that it was a necessary first step to getting the world to act. I KNOW her goals are tougher, but I have seen nothing defining how she would get there. Yet, I concede that Inslee, who had both accomplishments and a serious plan did not engender the excitement she did. The question is how Biden could enlist the scientists, the statesmen AND people like AOC who speak for many in her generation.

On immigration, she makes many many good points.

I wonder if her goal is not to have someone on the Biden team reach out to her and to try to define how she could help Biden, preserving her own identity - without which she would be no value to Biden or herself.

Response to comradebillyboy (Original post)

frazzled

(18,402 posts)
9. Try reaching out to him
Mon Apr 13, 2020, 10:24 AM
Apr 2020

She's not the queen, you know, who must be given fealty. There are 232 Democratic representatives in Congress, and there is, you know, a shelter-in-place situation around the nation. Biden is busy trying to figure out how to run a campaign from his basement, and staff is spread around in their own habitats.

I'd say, settle down.

Docreed2003

(16,863 posts)
27. Bash bash bash
Mon Apr 13, 2020, 10:41 AM
Apr 2020

Maybe she needs to recognize that, no matter her media presence, she is still a freshman rep and a newcomer to the party. I'm sure Biden's people will reach out in due time. So sorry he didn't reach out to you immediately, not like there are a few more important things in this moment.

mcar

(42,334 posts)
79. I suspect that is the case
Mon Apr 13, 2020, 11:54 AM
Apr 2020

If so, she could have answered something like, "I'll be reaching out to the Biden campaign soon so we can talk about working together for a Blue Wave in 2020."

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,735 posts)
33. Why should he?
Mon Apr 13, 2020, 10:46 AM
Apr 2020

AOC apparently hasn't figured out that she's not as important as she seems to think she is, and that the so-called "progressive" movement as formerly spearheaded by Sanders does not represent anywhere near a majority of Democrats. Seems to me that the reaching out should come from AOC, like, "How can we help?" if they are serious about getting rid of Trump.

brooklynite

(94,598 posts)
34. There are 232 Democratic House members; Biden probably hasn't spoken to most of them
Mon Apr 13, 2020, 10:48 AM
Apr 2020

Not clear why a first term House member is a safe Blue district deserves priority.

 

GeorgiaPeanut

(360 posts)
35. SHE is supposed to reach out to Biden and not vice versa
Mon Apr 13, 2020, 10:49 AM
Apr 2020

I think it is time to defeat this woman in the primary and get a REAL Democrat elected.

Perhaps congressman Cuellar can come and campaign for her opponent to let her know how it feels.

EllieBC

(3,016 posts)
37. When she gets up every day is her first thought
Mon Apr 13, 2020, 10:53 AM
Apr 2020

“How can I make today more about me?”?

Sure seems that way.

Me.

(35,454 posts)
38. She Needs To Be Doing Some Reaching Out
Mon Apr 13, 2020, 10:53 AM
Apr 2020

to the people in her district who feel neglected, or so it's said.

Takket

(21,577 posts)
40. do presidental candidates normally reach out to the House reps of their party a week after securing
Mon Apr 13, 2020, 10:56 AM
Apr 2020

the nomination?

maybe they do... i don't know.

LAS14

(13,783 posts)
49. Biden said a most important factor will be how he gets along..
Mon Apr 13, 2020, 11:09 AM
Apr 2020

... with the VP. So I'm not surprised that OAC is not on his list.

SaintLouisBlues

(1,244 posts)
51. Too bad this gossipy crap is no longer relegated to the primary forum
Mon Apr 13, 2020, 11:13 AM
Apr 2020

I'll have to get back to the trash thread feature I guess.

JustAnotherGen

(31,828 posts)
54. Dear AOC
Mon Apr 13, 2020, 11:17 AM
Apr 2020

NY State is a sure thing. Welcome to being a Representative in a Blue State. I've lived in NY - and NJ. Candidates don't need to woo us. That includes you.

And if Biden DOES go out - he needs to go the flipped districts. NJ-7th is one. Malinowski will need his help - as a moderate - you don't. Your folks will vote for you anyways.

Sincerely,

A Moderate Democratic Party Member

c-rational

(2,594 posts)
58. Stating that "the process of coming together should be uncomfortable for everyone"
Mon Apr 13, 2020, 11:20 AM
Apr 2020

is simply not true. Why start an argument with a falsehood?

ucrdem

(15,512 posts)
62. Ouch. Some thoughts are better left unexpressed.
Mon Apr 13, 2020, 11:27 AM
Apr 2020

When is she gonna learn.

p.s. now to her important concerns:

LakeArenal

(28,820 posts)
64. "AOC slams Dem centrists as 'Tea Party of the left,' suggests Biden shouldn't be in same party"
Mon Apr 13, 2020, 11:29 AM
Apr 2020

“In any other country, Joe Biden and I would not be in the same party, but in America, we are,” Ocasio-Cortez said. When asked how she would fit in with a possible Biden administration, her initial response was, “Oh, God.”



https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.foxnews.com/politics/aoc-slams-dem-centrists-as-tea-party-of-the-left-suggests-biden-shouldnt-be-in-same-party.amp

LakeArenal

(28,820 posts)
75. Not hard to track her "stuff"
Mon Apr 13, 2020, 11:45 AM
Apr 2020

AOC labels the Democrat Party 'center-conservative' and claims America doesn't have a 'left' as she complains they can't even get a floor vote on Medicare-for-all
By Leah Simpson For Dailymail.com
03:51 21 Jan 2020, updated 12:57 21 Jan 2020

AOC made similar comments about the Democrat Party in a magazine this month: 'They let anybody who the cat dragged in call themselves a progressive'


Sleepy Joe Biden has a very serious problem with his own party.
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BRUTAL: Ocasio-Cortez Disses Joe Biden – NOT Interested in Going Backwards (VIDEO

Read more: http://www.city-data.com/forum/elections/3040870-wow-brutal-ocasio-cortez-disses-joe.html#ixzz6JVYaMDWb

DFW

(54,408 posts)
81. Yeah! What's wrong with Biden? He hasn't reached out to me, either!
Mon Apr 13, 2020, 11:58 AM
Apr 2020

Maybe I'm over-estimating my importance in the whole scheme of things.

Maybe I'm not the only one.

SheltieLover

(57,073 posts)
84. Has OAC Endorsed Joe & Reached Out to Him?
Mon Apr 13, 2020, 12:00 PM
Apr 2020

If not, then I would think the reasonable thing to do would be to try that *IF* her motivation is to oust Dump.

Just my 2 cents.

quickesst

(6,280 posts)
85. if he's as smart as I know he is....
Mon Apr 13, 2020, 12:02 PM
Apr 2020

.... he won't be doing it anytime soon either. The last thing anyone needs at the office is a brat underfoot.

Indykatie

(3,697 posts)
86. They Asked Her if Biden and Reached Out and Her Answer Was No - Giver Her a Break on This
Mon Apr 13, 2020, 12:11 PM
Apr 2020

What was she supposed to say?

lapucelle

(18,275 posts)
87. Has she reached out to Biden? It sounds like she expects to be courted
Mon Apr 13, 2020, 12:28 PM
Apr 2020

for some reason. Perhaps she is the one who is only doing things that she feels comfortable with.

I'd like to see her begin to build bridges by addressing some of the things she said about the Democratic Party, the Progressive caucus, and Joe Biden specifically to New York Magazine.

She said the Congressional Progressive Caucus should start kicking people out if they stray too far from the party line. Other caucuses within the Democratic Party in Congress require applications, Ocasio-Cortez pointed out. But “they let anybody who the cat dragged in call themselves a progressive. There’s no standard,” she said.

The same goes for the party as a whole: “Democrats can be too big of a tent.”

It is comments like that that kept Ocasio-Cortez and the rest of the Democratic Party from reaching any kind of meaningful détente. I asked her what she thought her role would be as a member of Congress during, for instance, a Joe Biden presidency. “Oh God,” she said with a groan. “In any other country, Joe Biden and I would not be in the same party, but in America, we are.”

https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2020/01/aoc-first-year-in-washington.html

lapucelle

(18,275 posts)
97. I don't see her as particularly courageous. She's a politician, plain and simple.
Mon Apr 13, 2020, 01:11 PM
Apr 2020

Not everyone is going to like her or agree with her. She's made her feelings clear. Others are equally entitled to do the same.

From her profile in New York Magazine.

She said the Congressional Progressive Caucus should start kicking people out if they stray too far from the party line. Other caucuses within the Democratic Party in Congress require applications, Ocasio-Cortez pointed out. But “they let anybody who the cat dragged in call themselves a progressive. There’s no standard,” she said.

The same goes for the party as a whole: “Democrats can be too big of a tent.”

It is comments like that that kept Ocasio-Cortez and the rest of the Democratic Party from reaching any kind of meaningful détente. I asked her what she thought her role would be as a member of Congress during, for instance, a Joe Biden presidency. “Oh God,” she said with a groan. “In any other country, Joe Biden and I would not be in the same party, but in America, we are.”

https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2020/01/aoc-first-year-in-washington.html

Progressive dog

(6,905 posts)
90. Go away, AOC
Mon Apr 13, 2020, 12:41 PM
Apr 2020

AOC needs to realize that Biden has won without her help. He owes nothing to her.
Biden won because he is supported by the vast majority of the Democratic party. That's easy for AOC to understand, the party had other choices with perhaps a few that were more to AOC's liking, but they didn't win.

calguy

(5,315 posts)
92. Why should he?
Mon Apr 13, 2020, 12:53 PM
Apr 2020

Other than the fact that she's a far out in left field first term congress woman who likes to make waves, where's the incentive?
Joe's got bigger fish to fry than to "reach out" to AOC.

MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
94. Oh, my! A Freshman House Rep. Reaches out to the Presidential Candidate
Mon Apr 13, 2020, 12:56 PM
Apr 2020

It doesn't work the way she thinks it does. The proper thing is a communication sent to the presumptive nominee that says:

"Congratulations Vice-President Biden! How can I help in your upcoming campaign?"

That is how you do that.

PatSeg

(47,501 posts)
117. Exactly
Mon Apr 13, 2020, 02:25 PM
Apr 2020

Very simple and respectful. She has been in government for such a short time, she still doesn't know basic protocols. Being she is one of the "new kids", she might spend less time being a media celebrity and more time watching and listening to those who have more experience.

Sometimes the brightest flame burns out the fastest.

The Magistrate

(95,247 posts)
95. Still, Sir, I Expect Mr. Biden Would Take Her Call
Mon Apr 13, 2020, 12:59 PM
Apr 2020

Should she choose to reach out to him.

I like Rep. Ocasio-Corte, and want her to remain in Congress and have a fruitful political career as left progressive Representative or better.

But people on the left of the Party, even stars of the left, need to get over the idea the Party's left-center and center-left majority has to court and woo and even placate them. The left is a minority faction, and a minority faction needs to reach out to the majority, seeking to co-operate, and to demonstrate its reliability.


"Can't nobody here play this game?"

Vivienne235729

(3,384 posts)
96. Oh wow. I like AOC but she needs to learn some tact. She's a freshman
Mon Apr 13, 2020, 01:05 PM
Apr 2020

and is getting a bit ahead of herself. He's kinda busy vetting his vp, pick members of his cabinet, etc. Christ. Smdh....

LisaM

(27,813 posts)
104. I don't think the process of coming together should be uncomfortable.
Mon Apr 13, 2020, 01:32 PM
Apr 2020

That sounds chaotic and disruptive.

I know that the tech crowd loves disrupting everything, but I bet there are some gig economy workers right now with zero job protection, zero benefits, and things like car payments due so they can do their gig job who might be questioning that right now.

JT45242

(2,280 posts)
105. What a sense of absolute entitlement
Mon Apr 13, 2020, 01:36 PM
Apr 2020

I am just wondering how many junior representatives with less than 1 term Biden has contacted?

How many second term representatives? Third term?

There are a lot of people above you in the food chain, AOC.

You might want to look at your primary challengers and think about how best to make certain that you don't lose that.

I don't expect the CEO of my company to reach out to me personally ... so why would a first term rep think that she should jump the line to the front of people for the "CEO" of the Democratic party.

W_HAMILTON

(7,869 posts)
106. Why would he?
Mon Apr 13, 2020, 01:36 PM
Apr 2020

She endorsed Sanders and was actively campaigning for him as recently as just a couple of weeks ago?

Sanders just finally suspended his campaign, what, less than a week ago? Chill out, freshman Congressperson.

SharonClark

(10,014 posts)
114. Why link to an excerpt when the original NY Times article is a more accurate take on the interview?
Mon Apr 13, 2020, 02:05 PM
Apr 2020

Read the whole Q&A, please, before you starting dissing AOC's response to this simple question. . .
"Q. I guess my first question is simple: Has the Biden campaign reached out to you?
A. No."

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/13/us/politics/aoc-progressives-joe-biden.html

You may agree or disagree with AOC's answers in the Q&A, but you may want to read them before you respond to click bait.


totodeinhere

(13,058 posts)
118. I don't think that Joe needs to reach out to each and every member of Congress.
Mon Apr 13, 2020, 02:27 PM
Apr 2020

And who knows? Maybe Joe will end up endorsing one of her primary opponents.

Hekate

(90,714 posts)
122. Has she thought about reaching out to HIM? How can I help, kind of thing?
Mon Apr 13, 2020, 02:34 PM
Apr 2020

Apparently the afterglow from Bernie's rallies hasn't quite faded.

Also, how's things in her home district? Just asking.

Hekate

(90,714 posts)
125. If the young congresswoman persists in behaving in this jejeune manner, a once-promising career...
Mon Apr 13, 2020, 02:42 PM
Apr 2020

...may be cut short.

I hope calling her jejeune will pass the purity test here.

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