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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsDrs. Fauci and Birx couldn't qualify to hold Captain Crozier's Jockstrap
I'm sick of giving these asshats a pass, especially when we have a perfect example of a leader putting his career on the line when people's lives are in danger.
I spent almost 30 years in the Navy, so please let me tell you just a tiny fraction of what it takes to be a Commanding Officer of one of our Nuclear powered aircraft carriers. See, Captain Crozier didn't just wake up one day and discover he was the CO of a $6B floating city. It took years and years of sacrifice, hard work, mental anguish and crushing emotional and physical discipline over more than 20 years.
First, he started as a junior aviator..a demanding and cutthroat designator. Over multiple demanding Sea Tours, he rose to the top .001% of a community of the top 1%.
Then, as his reward for 20+ years of work, he was selected for major command. As part of the Carrier CO Track, he would first be assigned as CO of a Large Deck AOE (a massive replenishment Ship that spends 70-80% of it's life underway at sea. If successful at this tour you may get your shot at commanding a Carrier.
First though, you have to attend and complete Navy Nuclear Power School. I've seen math PHDs washout with tears in their eyes from this demanding course.
Then, you get to go and be the Executive Officer, second in command of a carrier. If there's a more demanding job than Carrier CO, it's Carrier XO.
So, when Captain Crozier put his career on the chopping block for his crew, the above is just a small part of what he was sacrificing.
I suppose he could have said; "well, I should fall in line, because at least if I'm here, I can 'run interference' and try to get leadership to do the right thing". He could have said; "at least I'll still be here as a 'mitigating' voice of reason".
He could have done that, but That's not what you do when thousands of lives are at stake
Drs Fauci and Birx should get no pass for being sychophants to this asshat.
So, please, stop with the "oh, they have a tough job and need to be there as a mitigating voice of reason".
We have an example of unimaginable sacrifice to speak truth to power, and it sure isn't either of these good Drs kissing Donnie Dollhands orange ass.
Atticus
(15,124 posts)Demonaut
(8,918 posts)his is much different.
haze grey and underway
YessirAtsaFact
(2,064 posts)And Crozier was a completely different situation. I appreciate the sacrifice he made, but Fauci is a sane voice still inside the government.
Fauci has more impact by delaying his firing.
we can do it
(12,186 posts)JT45242
(2,278 posts)As Dr. Fauci bows down before the ring of Trump and claims he misspoke on the Sunday morning shows. He weakens the country.
As he and Birx do not shout out loud -- he did nothing for almost two months while we told him what to do. He weakens the country.
As he allows lies about what he has said to be told by admin officials on 60 minutes. He weakens the country. At least 60 Minutes had the backbone to show Dr. Fauci clips from shows dating back more than 15 years.
On the other hand, Crozier stood up to the bully. He protected his men. His men and every soldier know what Private Bone Spurs is -- a coward and a bully. Perhaps if Dr. Fauci and Dr. Birx would go a little Villanelle on the bully and smack him across his mouth rhetorically, we might have a chance of turning this around.
Unless those with knowledge stand up to bullies and autocrats, we may be heading towards the end of the novel American experiment of representative democracy -- either because the country collapses due to the ineptness of the government response r because the will is lacking to stand up to a would be autocrat.
We need more people like Captain Crozier.
soryang
(3,299 posts)....but why did the Navy pull into Danang? That wasn't very smart.
crickets
(25,980 posts)not just a shore leave. Crozier's commanding officer(s) could have cancelled and did not. They should have.
MaryMagdaline
(6,855 posts)Solomon
(12,310 posts)Thank you! My sentiments exactly. My wife is still willing to give Fauci a pass. I am not. It wasn't just the asskissing. He lied for Trump when he said that Trump willingly followed every recommendation that he gave him. When a reporter pressed him for dates he got amnesia all of a sudden and hurried away from the Mic.
Laelth
(32,017 posts)-Laelth
Drahthaardogs
(6,843 posts)To keep an entire nation safe. He has to navigate a sociopath.
Man has a medical degree from Cornell and is 80 years old. He has served his country for decades. He chose his country over money too. I'm am so tired of the narrative that only military make sacrifices.
My grandfather was a coal miner in WW2. During the war, you know what they told him? Get your ass back in there and mine coal. You are not going to war. We need steel.
Job was as deadly as any soldier's (actually at that time it was MORE dangerous) You know he got for his troubles? He got fucking black lung then he got dead. No G.I bill for his kids. No TriCare. Nope. Reagan did manage to fuck his union though, so his widow's pension got screwed. So I guess there is that.
uponit7771
(90,344 posts)... don't remember.." a day after Trump repost a#FireFauci tweet
Fauchi understands how that looks, he's way past being a functionary at this point.
giving any ground to Trump at this point is more bad than good.
Fauchi can stay on Trump's team, appease him and not use those words to the public.
Yesterday's Fauci's form was tone deaf at best
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)I only wish more voters were as smart as they need to be. And that's not especially intelligent, just more that direction.
Let's have a moment of sympathy for 79-year-old Fauci, exhausted from weeks of hard work, strain and lack of sleep, who had to stand for over 2 hours on that stage while this depraved creep ranted.
One of the things I feel sure of is that Dr. Fauci did NOT help in any way to elect Trump, not by not voting, not by badmouthing Democrats whenever politics came up. I cannot say the same for some who use complaints about Trump and "they" -- always others -- to cover their own role in bringing our nation to this.
maxrandb
(15,330 posts)Or do we give them a "pass" on that as well?
I'm pretty sure they know how important, vital and life-saving the work of the WHO is.
Hundreds of thousands in Africa, Central and South America, Asia and America will suffer and die because of this, and yet they stand there next to this orange piece of amphibian shit as, like a virus, their credibility is transmitted to him.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)Coventina
(27,120 posts)They are fucking cowards!!!
crickets
(25,980 posts)Going back on his comments about the timing of social distancing and trump's resistance to same was the last straw. For me anyway.
Being willing to lie to salve trump's ego renders him untrustworthy and useless.
GeorgeGist
(25,321 posts)Crozier made no sacrifice.
maxrandb
(15,330 posts)Wouldn't want to lose your position in the 101ST Chairborne