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scrabblequeen40

(334 posts)
Tue Apr 14, 2020, 09:48 AM Apr 2020

Evangelicals gave us Ted Haggard. Jim Bakker. Jimmy Swaggart. And now, Trump.

The next time a good Christian says Trump is a man of God, ask them if they learned anything from the example of Haggard, Bakker and Swaggart.

Most likely, they're old enough to have regretted those scams, too.

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Evangelicals gave us Ted Haggard. Jim Bakker. Jimmy Swaggart. And now, Trump. (Original Post) scrabblequeen40 Apr 2020 OP
It amazes me that Evangelicals never notice that many of their standard bearers are dirtbags... Girard442 Apr 2020 #1
Evangelicals have Skidmore Apr 2020 #2
Evangelicals actually believe that if you are truly "born again" your place in Heaven is assured. Girard442 Apr 2020 #3
Good Christians don't REPEATEDLY MissMillie Apr 2020 #4

Girard442

(6,073 posts)
1. It amazes me that Evangelicals never notice that many of their standard bearers are dirtbags...
Tue Apr 14, 2020, 09:56 AM
Apr 2020

...grifters, sociopaths, and rank hypocrites.

I mean, the intellectual community has its share of misfits and outliers, but there are also giants. The closest the Evangelical community ever had to a giant was Billy Graham -- until he was outed as an anti-semite and a Nixon toady.

Skidmore

(37,364 posts)
2. Evangelicals have
Tue Apr 14, 2020, 10:01 AM
Apr 2020

some real dirtbags amongst them who live to offend another day because they are taught that a prayer for forgiveness is a reset. They don't need to change behavior.

Girard442

(6,073 posts)
3. Evangelicals actually believe that if you are truly "born again" your place in Heaven is assured.
Tue Apr 14, 2020, 10:08 AM
Apr 2020

You don't even have to pray. You're pre-forgiven for your sins.

Theologically, they cover their asses by saying that when you're born again, you (sort of) lose the desire to sin. Yet they freely admit they keep sinning. I suppose at some point they'd admit that the sin becomes so egregious that it calls into question the validity of the conversion experience. Dismember a family of four and dispose of the bodies in a woodchipper? Maaayyybeeee not really born again.

MissMillie

(38,559 posts)
4. Good Christians don't REPEATEDLY
Tue Apr 14, 2020, 10:12 AM
Apr 2020

file for bankruptcy to avoid paying their debts and put hard-working people on the unemployment line.

there's so much more... feel free to add your own.

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