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RandySF

(58,836 posts)
Tue Apr 14, 2020, 12:19 PM Apr 2020

Omar looking for 'gesture' from Biden that he understands importance of progressive issues

Rep. Ilhan Omar (D-Minn.), a prominent progressive lawmaker who had endorsed Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) for president, says she is still waiting for some indication from presumptive Democratic nominee Joe Biden that he grasps what really matters to voters on the left.

“When it comes to our nominee — I of course will support — but I also know that it is going to be important for Vice President Biden to really understand that poll after poll after poll, people wanted 'Medicare for All' as a policy platform implemented in this country,” Omar said in an interview on Crooked Media’s “What a Day” podcast Tuesday.

In addition to Medicare for All, Omar said progressive voters are also seeking aggressive efforts to fight climate crisis and student debt.

“And so what I am looking for is a gesture from the vice president that he understands that these are the issues that are important to people,” she added.




https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/492671-omar-looking-for-gesture-from-biden-that-he-understands-importance-of

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Omar looking for 'gesture' from Biden that he understands importance of progressive issues (Original Post) RandySF Apr 2020 OP
I am beyond tired of all of this. redstatebluegirl Apr 2020 #1
Me too. nt ooky Apr 2020 #11
Same here Gothmog Apr 2020 #16
yup, I appreciate what she represents, but she has a lot to learn Amishman Apr 2020 #18
Precisely. This is not the time to order everything on the menu. VOX Apr 2020 #34
She needs to worry about her own seat right now vercetti2021 Apr 2020 #2
Yes. Boomerproud Apr 2020 #4
The problem with them is they are picking the fight with the wrong people vercetti2021 Apr 2020 #7
But they have a cool nickname LoveMyCali Apr 2020 #49
Primary grantcart Apr 2020 #63
She's a little too full of herself... Dream Girl Apr 2020 #3
She thinks she is more important than she really is. GemDigger Apr 2020 #56
I'm looking for Omar to be a hell of a lot more conciliatory. LakeArenal Apr 2020 #5
+1,000,000 highplainsdem Apr 2020 #6
It's not about winning, it's about ideology for some folks. HarlanPepper Apr 2020 #10
She Should, Sir, Make Some Gesture Towards Mr. Biden The Magistrate Apr 2020 #8
Joe should endorse her primary opponent. HarlanPepper Apr 2020 #9
Yes! question everything Apr 2020 #55
Joe won't do that. Blue_true Apr 2020 #61
She'd better start worrying about her own seat. The Velveteen Ocelot Apr 2020 #12
I think having two challengers works in her favor. JustABozoOnThisBus Apr 2020 #36
The way it usually goes, there is a State Convention that endorses one candidate question everything Apr 2020 #62
I've read the same........ MyOwnPeace Apr 2020 #38
she's no katie porter nt msongs Apr 2020 #13
... handmade34 Apr 2020 #15
👍🏻👍🏻 LakeArenal Apr 2020 #27
I got a gesture. *****Oh wait, we're supposed to be cynical & kowtow for votes. UTUSN Apr 2020 #14
Hekate is looking for The Squad to make a "gesture" toward the majority of us Dems that is not... Hekate Apr 2020 #17
Timing is everything Mr. Ected Apr 2020 #19
She had better "look to" her own district. MineralMan Apr 2020 #20
The first sentence seems to have a typo. DFW Apr 2020 #21
Bravo! question everything Apr 2020 #64
Ugh, I've got a gesture right here. R B Garr Apr 2020 #22
... mcar Apr 2020 #23
Omar says she will "of course" support the nominee gratuitous Apr 2020 #24
Well if she hasn't seen "indications" LakeArenal Apr 2020 #30
Biden, and Obama, are speaking DIRECTLY to Sanders supporters, Hortensis Apr 2020 #25
I have little patience for Prima Donnas. madaboutharry Apr 2020 #26
Her and AOC better worry about seats Watchfoxheadexplodes Apr 2020 #28
Voters chose Biden over Sanders. johnp3907 Apr 2020 #29
Rep. Omar is excellent at . . . DarthDem Apr 2020 #31
You are a junior rep who may very well lose your suit.Omar Biden doesn't have to do anything...in Demsrule86 Apr 2020 #32
There 'ya go! MyOwnPeace Apr 2020 #40
I would think that not allowing a wanna-be tyrant to continue in an office thucythucy Apr 2020 #33
I can give her a gesture calguy Apr 2020 #35
"I of course will support" fishwax Apr 2020 #37
I have never said this with another, but I do hope this one is primaried and loses. LizBeth Apr 2020 #39
Since MN CD-5 is my district, I plan to participate in that effort. The Velveteen Ocelot Apr 2020 #41
Is it Minneoplis? LizBeth Apr 2020 #42
Yes, Minneapolis and some of the close-in suburbs. The Velveteen Ocelot Apr 2020 #44
I have two people there. I havent had conversation or discussion, but it seems like someone is LizBeth Apr 2020 #46
Aug. 11. Both challengers have solid credentials. She could lose. The Velveteen Ocelot Apr 2020 #47
Ok. Thank you. Do you all have mail in? LizBeth Apr 2020 #48
Absentee, no excuses required. The Velveteen Ocelot Apr 2020 #50
Excellent. Thank you. I looked at moving there last year, but decided to stay here. It is an LizBeth Apr 2020 #51
I find the disdain for the left of the party that is so prevalent on this website very distasteful. aidbo Apr 2020 #43
I find congresspeople who aren't doing their jobs very distasteful. The Velveteen Ocelot Apr 2020 #45
It's a big tent party, but the far left wing is not the tallest pole right now. Wounded Bear Apr 2020 #53
From an op-ed in Omar's town newspaper" question everything Apr 2020 #52
She better learn to understand that the separation of church and state is important to the left Submariner Apr 2020 #54
Maybe it is she who should reach out to him. GemDigger Apr 2020 #57
AOC Has Settled Down With Her Antics and Demands and Now Omar May Try to Fill That Void Indykatie Apr 2020 #58
Omar BGBD Apr 2020 #59
Honestly, there is a pretty large chance that she won't be coming back to Blue_true Apr 2020 #60
Dear God can we get the man elected first before we put his feet in the fire npk Apr 2020 #65

redstatebluegirl

(12,265 posts)
1. I am beyond tired of all of this.
Tue Apr 14, 2020, 12:20 PM
Apr 2020

Holding the party hostage during a time when a pumpkin would be better than 4 more years of Trump.

Amishman

(5,557 posts)
18. yup, I appreciate what she represents, but she has a lot to learn
Tue Apr 14, 2020, 01:46 PM
Apr 2020

and also needs to recognize the political reality that an ultra progressive agenda isn't currently viable nationally.

VOX

(22,976 posts)
34. Precisely. This is not the time to order everything on the menu.
Tue Apr 14, 2020, 03:00 PM
Apr 2020

And as much as I’d like to see a vibrant, progressive America, it won’t be on the menu for some time.

All the horrible management needs to be fired and replaced with a sane and fair-minded team of competent professionals, if this “restaurant” is to be kept afloat and accountable to its patrons.

First things first. Add-ons come later.

vercetti2021

(10,156 posts)
7. The problem with them is they are picking the fight with the wrong people
Tue Apr 14, 2020, 12:30 PM
Apr 2020

The Justice Democrat experiment was fun but it's just sad

LakeArenal

(28,817 posts)
5. I'm looking for Omar to be a hell of a lot more conciliatory.
Tue Apr 14, 2020, 12:25 PM
Apr 2020

The bs about M4. We “Establishment” Democrats including Joe want the same thing. The argument has always been HOW to get there.

How many effin times has Biden shown he is concerned for the same issues?

Move on Omar to a real argument.

 

HarlanPepper

(2,042 posts)
10. It's not about winning, it's about ideology for some folks.
Tue Apr 14, 2020, 12:54 PM
Apr 2020

Nothing wrong with that in ordinary times but clearly she doesn't completely understand what the stakes are. If she did, ideological purity would not come first. Winning would.

The Magistrate

(95,247 posts)
8. She Should, Sir, Make Some Gesture Towards Mr. Biden
Tue Apr 14, 2020, 12:51 PM
Apr 2020

To make clear she is aligned with the Party's general election campaign.

If there is one thing the primary campaign this year has established, it is that by even the loosest definitions, leftists and progressives total no more than a third of the Party's primary electorate. People need to recognize this and act accordingly. Continued attempts by a decidedly minority faction to posture as the 'real' Democrats, continued insistence by a minority faction that it must be courted by the majority, even placated, on pain of ensuring defeat for all by withholding of votes, simply must cease. It must cease not because leftists and progressives should have no voice in the Party, but because continuing in this manner guarantees leftists and progressives will have less and less voice in the Party each time this line is pressed in an election year.

Reliable voting blocks are courted. Unreliable voting blocs have to be worked around, and if put to the choice between an unreliable and a reliable voting bloc, the unreliable bloc will be put aside. Even when campaign strategists are faced with a choice between two none too reliable voting blocs, as in deciding whether to court middle of the road types or left and progressive types, it is the larger bloc that will be preferred over the smaller, and it is a cold fact of our nation's political life that left-center and center-left voters greatly outnumber leftists and progressives, both in our Party and in the voting public at large. Each time the left and progressive faction restates that it cannot be relied on without concessions far in excess of its actual voting strength, the Party must move further towards the center to make up the threatened deficit.

I personally tend to support Rep. Omar, and consider her a valuable voice in Congress. I have expressed such support in comments here on several occasions. It will be difficult to continue expressing support for her if she presses this nonesensical and self-defeating line as the general election campaign continues towards November.


"Defeat of a hated enemy is something to be for."

 

HarlanPepper

(2,042 posts)
9. Joe should endorse her primary opponent.
Tue Apr 14, 2020, 12:52 PM
Apr 2020

Oh well. He'll have every other endorsement that matters in Minnesota. Omar's isn't needed at all.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
61. Joe won't do that.
Tue Apr 14, 2020, 07:35 PM
Apr 2020

But it is likely he won't have to. She has a pretty tough opponent and her record in her district has been paltry.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,705 posts)
12. She'd better start worrying about her own seat.
Tue Apr 14, 2020, 01:10 PM
Apr 2020

She's got two primary challengers, and as one of her constituents I'm giving them a good look. She has done a lousy job representing her district, which is her actual job - not telling the nominee what he has to do for her minority faction of the party.

JustABozoOnThisBus

(23,340 posts)
36. I think having two challengers works in her favor.
Tue Apr 14, 2020, 03:05 PM
Apr 2020

They can split the non-Omar vote and she can waltz through with 40% of the vote.

If she only had one challenger, it would behoove her to finance an additional challenger.

Maybe she should finance a third challenger, just to be safe.



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question everything

(47,479 posts)
62. The way it usually goes, there is a State Convention that endorses one candidate
Tue Apr 14, 2020, 09:32 PM
Apr 2020

and the others usually drop. Which, really, makes the subsequent primaries a rubber stamp.

This year obviously be different and, the last two governors (D) decided that the voters, not party activists should make the choice, both won the primaries and the office.

MyOwnPeace

(16,926 posts)
38. I've read the same........
Tue Apr 14, 2020, 03:13 PM
Apr 2020

and a release from an opponent looked like a good piece of political work to me. I agree with others here - she needs to get into the fold and be a part of a united front against our common enemy. It is not a time to seek out a special "throne" upon which to stand.

Hekate

(90,690 posts)
17. Hekate is looking for The Squad to make a "gesture" toward the majority of us Dems that is not...
Tue Apr 14, 2020, 01:44 PM
Apr 2020

...a middle finger.

The rest of us want Trump gone. Anyone who cannot grasp why that is by now is simply not someone worth talking to.

Mr. Ected

(9,670 posts)
19. Timing is everything
Tue Apr 14, 2020, 01:49 PM
Apr 2020

And given that the presumptive nominee for her own party in the general election is and will be Joe Biden, she either needs to endorse him vis-a-vis Trump or keep her mouth shut. If not Joe, who?

This is a battle best left for January 2021 and beyond.

If we can't walk in lockstep on this very simple issue, then i know another party that can, and they're delighted that we're divided.

MineralMan

(146,312 posts)
20. She had better "look to" her own district.
Tue Apr 14, 2020, 01:59 PM
Apr 2020

She may be looking for work after November, if she'd not careful.

And that's the truth, right there.

DFW

(54,387 posts)
21. The first sentence seems to have a typo.
Tue Apr 14, 2020, 02:17 PM
Apr 2020

Rep. Ilhan Omar (D-Minn.), a prominent progressive lawmaker who had endorsed Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) for president, says she is still waiting for some indication from presumptive Democratic nominee Joe Biden that he grasps what really matters to voters on the left.

Here, it is corrected:

Rep. Ilhan Omar (D-Minn.), a prominent progressive lawmaker who had endorsed Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) for president, says she is still waiting for some indication from presumptive Democratic nominee Joe Biden that he grasps what really matters to Rep. Ilhan Omar (D-Minn.).

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
24. Omar says she will "of course" support the nominee
Tue Apr 14, 2020, 02:22 PM
Apr 2020

She's looking for indications from that nominee that he's aware of what's important to her and her constituents. I see nothing wrong with that, other office holders say much the same thing every day. "I'm supporting Biden, of course, and I hope he's on board with X, one of the primary concerns in my state/district/city."

LakeArenal

(28,817 posts)
30. Well if she hasn't seen "indications"
Tue Apr 14, 2020, 02:48 PM
Apr 2020

Then she refuses to see them.

Climate change? Come on Biden has spoken it a number of times.
Joe wants affordable healthcare for everyone whatever Label you want to attach to it.

Same with all the other issues that somehow she thinks only her Democrats have been in favor of.






Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
25. Biden, and Obama, are speaking DIRECTLY to Sanders supporters,
Tue Apr 14, 2020, 02:39 PM
Apr 2020

individually and repeatedly, showing they respect and value both them and the importance of the issues they care about. Sanders himself is working with them and has become involved in setting up several task forces to tackle the problems we'll face on taking office.

Omar says this is what she wants. I suspect she's worried that Sanders' voters are listening.

DarthDem

(5,255 posts)
31. Rep. Omar is excellent at . . .
Tue Apr 14, 2020, 02:49 PM
Apr 2020

. . . making public pronouncements like this. What she does not excel at, as far as I can tell, is representing her constituents, which has led to her facing challenges from two credible primary opponents.

I acknowledge her concerns and believe that Joe Biden, who is decidedly a liberal on every issue, will be amply "progressive" enough for the Democratic party, and for Sen. Sanders, whose endorsement yesterday speaks volumes. If Biden wishes to discuss these matters with Rep. Omar, and if she handles those discussions in a constructive manner - and the latter is a big if as far as I'm concerned - then so be it.

Demsrule86

(68,576 posts)
32. You are a junior rep who may very well lose your suit.Omar Biden doesn't have to do anything...in
Tue Apr 14, 2020, 02:50 PM
Apr 2020

fact, you should ask him for his endorsement...might help you.

thucythucy

(8,052 posts)
33. I would think that not allowing a wanna-be tyrant to continue in an office
Tue Apr 14, 2020, 02:55 PM
Apr 2020

for which he is clearly unfit, and this in the context of the worst set of crises--medical and economic--to face this nation since World War II would "really matter to voters on the left."

Just my opinion, you understand.

LizBeth

(9,952 posts)
46. I have two people there. I havent had conversation or discussion, but it seems like someone is
Tue Apr 14, 2020, 05:18 PM
Apr 2020

running against Omar. When is the race and is there a chance of unseating her?

LizBeth

(9,952 posts)
51. Excellent. Thank you. I looked at moving there last year, but decided to stay here. It is an
Tue Apr 14, 2020, 05:45 PM
Apr 2020

awesome city.

 

aidbo

(2,328 posts)
43. I find the disdain for the left of the party that is so prevalent on this website very distasteful.
Tue Apr 14, 2020, 04:59 PM
Apr 2020

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,705 posts)
45. I find congresspeople who aren't doing their jobs very distasteful.
Tue Apr 14, 2020, 05:03 PM
Apr 2020

Omar is almost never around to meet with constituents, and she spends more time grandstanding than she does actually doing the work her job entails. She also has an unfortunate knack for making herself unnecessarily controversial, and therefore ineffective. Refusing to condemn the Armenian genocide was stupid, pointless and unforgivable.

Wounded Bear

(58,656 posts)
53. It's a big tent party, but the far left wing is not the tallest pole right now.
Tue Apr 14, 2020, 05:52 PM
Apr 2020

Democracy depends on the side that loses an election not sabotaging the results of it. Republicans have not learned that lesson, will the "progressive wing" of the Democratic party learn it?

question everything

(47,479 posts)
52. From an op-ed in Omar's town newspaper"
Tue Apr 14, 2020, 05:49 PM
Apr 2020

Yes, progressives voting third party would most likely hand Trump the election, but many lefties see that as a way of telling the DNC, “Hey! You need to earn our vote! You didn’t give us any policy concessions to vote on and this is the result.”

https://www.startribune.com/sanders-supporters-may-send-unforgettable-message-in-november/569610812/

===

I did not read it, it was the side comment but my initial reaction was F**k you! You are not owed anything. All you want is to destroy the party. You enjoy whatever the House accomplished and, guess what, it was flipped by moderates.

Submariner

(12,504 posts)
54. She better learn to understand that the separation of church and state is important to the left
Tue Apr 14, 2020, 05:56 PM
Apr 2020

and when she learns that, she can then voice how she thinks Biden should conduct himself.

GemDigger

(4,305 posts)
57. Maybe it is she who should reach out to him.
Tue Apr 14, 2020, 06:14 PM
Apr 2020

Considering what her job is and what his upcoming job will be, he shouldn't have to PUBLICLY kiss anyones ass and clearly that is what she wants. (As does another)

Indykatie

(3,696 posts)
58. AOC Has Settled Down With Her Antics and Demands and Now Omar May Try to Fill That Void
Tue Apr 14, 2020, 06:33 PM
Apr 2020

If the far left think they will get support for M4ALL as a "gesture" they will be sadly disappointed. I don't know of these polls with Americans screaming for M4ALL. It has support among Dems but no where near the level it would need for passage. The Unions aren't supportive in large numbers and until that changes I don't see Biden and Dem leadership having any serious dialogue.

 

BGBD

(3,282 posts)
59. Omar
Tue Apr 14, 2020, 06:40 PM
Apr 2020

would serve us best just not talking.

I'm sure Biden doesn't want her near his campaign. Her boycotting Israel movement is a sure way to lose Florida.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
60. Honestly, there is a pretty large chance that she won't be coming back to
Tue Apr 14, 2020, 07:31 PM
Apr 2020

Congress after January 2021. She has a tough democratic primary opponent. The republican is a sick joke.

npk

(3,660 posts)
65. Dear God can we get the man elected first before we put his feet in the fire
Tue Apr 14, 2020, 09:41 PM
Apr 2020

Biden, as part of the Obama administration, had this country going in the right direction before Agent Orange took over. Those Obama years, while I realize not perfect for everyone, was light years ahead of the path this country is on right now. So please let's get Biden elected first and then give him at least a year before we start passing judgement that he is not progressive enough.

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