The tide has turned

[malaise]

He is fucking history - take that to the bank

[cilla4progress]

1. I think so, too, malaise.

It only remains to be seen how many he takes down with him..

Ms. Lindsay has been rather quiet lately, has he not? He's gotta go. And he can take McTurtle and the rest of the lot with him!

[malaise]

4. Even Lil Marco has found his mouth

[bluecollar2]

28. He extracted his head from his ass

Long enough to say something relevant?

Bless his heart...

[FreeState]

47. Sexism and homophobia are beneath us n/t

[rzemanfl]

66. There's another one down thread. n/t

[FreeState]

72. Unfortunately n/t

[cilla4progress]

116. I know. I agree. Sorry.

I wonder if Graham supports marriage equality?

[subana]

112. I would be sooooooo happy!!

if we could get rid of trump, graham & mcconnell in the same election!!!

[rurallib]

2. As that great philosopher Yogi Berra once said:

"It ain't over til it is over"

I won't believe it until I see it - see his ass dragged out of the White House.

[pandr32]

26. +1

[relayerbob]

29. Preferably in clothes that match his face

[thegoose]

56. L'orange, mai oui?

[onetexan]

76. oui oui, mon ami

[rurallib]

74. Actually I want to see his face scrubbed clean of all his make-up

his gray hair not coiffed in a "do" and his orange jumpsuit contrast dramatically with his pale white face and gray hair.

[subana]

113. I hadn't even thought of that!

it would be fun to see him without his disguise!

[degage]

86. +1000 - Same here.

There's still way too much time between now and Nov 3. I'm not counting any eggs as hatched chickens.

[Stuart G]

87. K and R

[Joinfortmill]

99. I agree

[Initech]

3. Sad that it took this tragedy to get people to wake the fuck up.

But getting him and the Fox News cabal kicked out of the White House will be the ultimate silver lining!

[DownriverDem]

46. Except

they haven't all woke up. They keep asking do we blame trump for the virus? As it's pointed out that no we blame him for his lack of response, they still don't want to get it. Only those who are not hard core have moved away from trump.

[Initech]

62. We're blaming him for his lack of leadership.

Not to mention his petty, spiteful vindictive behavior towards people who don't agree with him. Not to mention his lax attitude toward allowing religious organizations to adhere to social distance rules. That's going to cause a lot more long run deaths than need to be.

[Rorey]

68. Typical FauxNews tactic

Instead of answering a question, they just change the question to one they want to answer.

[malaise]

60. It was always going to take an epidemic or a pandemic

to remove these thugs

[sop]

63. Trump finally burned it all down.

[Initech]

115. My uncle, who has never taken sides in any political election...

Is now all in for Biden! Better late than never!

[Wellstone ruled]

5. Miss Lindsey was out earlier today

screaming about cutting Unemployment wage ceiling at 7 dollars per hour.

The Rethugs now know the public has caught on to how this so called stimulus packet was geared to the wealthy,and the Wealth transfer has been exposed.

The Rethug Party is in their death throughs and Polling is showing them just how bad it is.

[cilla4progress]

6. Clearly Obama LOATHES

the orange asshole. Props to him for biting his tongue through the whole 2016 change of admin! He put country FIRST!!!

ALSO, contrary to what some think, I think there will be HUGE ENTHUSIASM for Joe this election!!! (Not the least, thanks to Obama.)

Scary thought: what will this drive drumpf to do? He already hates us and has been intentionally killing us!!!

[SheltieLover]

12. Like alk scum

he will negotiate a pardon - fed & state for self & spawn. There had better not be any such deal.

[cilla4progress]

17. I know.

I hope not.

[SheltieLover]

20. I am really worried about this

because if the new admin decides to "just go forward," I am afraid support will completely collapse.

I hear so much "both parties are the same" all the time from people & I have great rebuttals to garner support for Joe & all Blue candidates, but there would be ZERO defense for pardons - plural. They must ALL BE HELD to same standards as you or I would be.

And white collar crime needs to be treated much more seriously.

[Wounded Bear]

22. Biden won't pardon Trump...

My fear is that Trump will bail early-he is a loser and a quitter-and Pence would in the lame duck period.

Would hate to see it, but you know Trump won't transition nicely.

[SheltieLover]

23. I don't think Joe will...

No dump won't transition easily & I don't think he will step down off his self-perceived throne because someone probably told him his nasty, fat ass will rot in prison.

What the country needs to see is dump, moscow mitch, pence, etc., etc., etc. handcuffed & perp walked to jail AND NOT BE LET OUT.

Anything short of this, I fear, will cause disgust in our system of law & justice.

I know a lot of folks I have talked with feel this way.

One set of laws for the rich with important titles & another set for everyone else absolutely must stop.

I have had clients in southern states so poor they literally could not drive grandmas to traffic court, which resulted in bench warrants AND JAIL TIME. People are fed up with this sort of bs!

[LastLiberal in PalmSprings]

67. When (if?) Biden wins, we can expect a chaotic transition.

First of all, Fat Donnie won't accept defeat, no matter how lopsided Biden's victory. He'll contest it through the courts -- or more likely go straight to the SCOTUS, given his tendency to skip the lower courts and go to where the fix is in.

If he loses there (which is not certain, seeing how the Court was willing to declare Dubya the victor), he would declare victory anyway, citing Article 4 as giving him the power to do anything he wants.

If he loses all support by the Republicans, he'll wait until the morning of Biden's inauguration to suddenly resign, giving Pence the power to pardon Trump.

Needless to say, it doesn't matter whether he wins or loses, his administration will do zilch to effect the smooth transfer of power from his administration to the next.

I don't know if any of this is true, but given what we know about Trump I wouldn't put it past him. I do think the first and last suggestions are the most likely.

[onetexan]

79. Oh it may be chaotic alright but i'm not worried about whether or not he accepts defeat

his ass will be taken out of the WH whether he likes it or not, or citing Article 4 or whatever else.

[Volaris]

92. I agree with you. The INSTANT the electoral college certifies his loss,

All he can do about it is complain.
And at 1201 pm on jan 20th, the secret service answers to Not Trump.

Trump will have his own EX PRESIDENTIAL detail (as all ex presidents do), and that detail will see him OUT of the white house in a dignified manner;

The US Secret Service is above making this a circus, unless trump makes them, and if it comes to that, I'm pretty sure it will involve handcuffs or the US Marshall's Service, just to drive home the point that his removal from the premises is about the rule of LAW.

[onetexan]

94. well said. Joe Biden has said the same and he's not worried.

[Joinfortmill]

102. Agree

[BigDemVoter]

39. I will be so fucking ANGRY if Pussy-Grabber doesn't pay for any of his crimes.

In a just world, he would be hanged for treason, and I'm not stating this because I'm pro-capital punishment-- I am not. I am only saying that most countries have a remedy for traitors, and it usually involves a rope and a drop through a trap door. I am not sure Pussy-Grabber's orange ass would make it through the trap door though. He would probably get stuck. . . .

[sfstaxprep]

77. Prepare To Be Angry

This country as a pretty poor track record of punishing those who did wrong.

Although he deserves conviction and more, I'll be literally shocked if a single thing happens to Drumpf once he leaves office.

He'll unfortunately continue to be his obnoxious self for the remainder of his days.

[lanlady]

89. this is my fear with Biden

Given his reputation as a nice guy, he'll let Trump off the hook in the name of "national unity." We liberals will despise him for it and the Republicans won't repay the favor at all.

My nightmare scenario.

[sfstaxprep]

93. Let Me Stop You

The NIGHTMARE scenario is not Biden winning the election, and then letting Drumpf off the hook.

I agree, it would be extremely disappointing if that happened. But it's still FAR better than the alternative.

[hangaleft]

104. I wouldn't call it a nightmare

But I think you nailed it and it will suck. Big time. And be a huge mistake. Biden will lose a lot of political capital and popular support right out of the gate.

[volstork]

48. There is still NY state.

They hate rump's guts and have the prosecutors to nail him to the wall.

[SheltieLover]

51. I sure hope they

don't negotiate that all away just to get him out of wh.

[Joinfortmill]

101. Hang on and VOTE

[subana]

114. I loved his comment!

when he said this situation has taught us why we need govt! It certainly has done that!

[Under The Radar]

7. Direct deposit

[BadGimp]

8. I'm not convinced (yet)

v

He and the Grifter Clan have a lot of stealing to do.

[not fooled]

117. Yeah

the RWNJ media will be screaming at any attempt to hold red don accountable. Will Dems have the fortitude required to proceed in the face of incessant criticism? I hope so because they would be in the right but history on this point is not reassuring.

[Atticus]

9. The Fat Lady hasn't sung, but she is clearing her throat and waiting for the segue. nt

[liberalmuse]

11. Article after article condemning his behavior today.

It is wonderful to see. The god-emperor is not only neither, everyone with a functioning brain cell can see he is butt-naked.

[malaise]

34. It sure took long but a line has been crossed

I guess campaigning from the WH briefing room while 2,000 are in the morgues is a line too far for most.

[Thunderbeast]

13. May I remind you..

Last edited Tue Apr 14, 2020, 03:13 PM - Edit history (1)

In April of 2016, nobody but Steve Bannon saw any way in hell that Donald Trump would be the 45th President.

WE MUST NOT BE COMPLACENT!

The hard work of winning this election must STILL be done....Not by somebody else, but by ALL OF US! There will be powerful forces that will do everything in their power to keep this man in power. He will be desperate to win as the prospect of life in a New York prison looms in the alternative scenario.

[Turin_C3PO]

37. We need to run like we're ten points behind.

Get out the vote, canvass, donate, make phone calls, etc. This orange fascist must be removed.

[Joinfortmill]

103. Agree

[HarlanPepper]

38. We also shouldn't be without inspiration, either.

Btw, what is “comacent”?

[lunatica]

44. Complacent. Read it in context and let your brain fill in

[HarlanPepper]

70. Salty.

[lunatica]

81. I didn't mean to sound snarky

It’s the way I try to figure misspelled words out. If I came across as snarky I apologize.

[Thunderbeast]

88. I have been in my blanket fort crying all day😥😥

Then I found the EDIT function!

Now, I am happy again!

Spelling FIXED!

No offense taken. Everyone have a great day at home...

Washing your hands.

Wearing a mask.

Touching body parts other than your face.

Sending GOTV postcards to swing states!

Reflecting on what we can all learn.

[Zing Zing Zingbah]

58. Exactly!!! Don't count your chickens before they hatch. n/t

[HarlanPepper]

111. Whose counting them?

[malaise]

75. Agree but the tide has still turned

Get out the vote

[ibegurpard]

14. Take nothing to the bank

Be ready to overcome all obstacles and drag every potentially like-minded person you can think of to the polls.

[coti]

15. I'm not going to the bank if I don't have to right now. nt

[sarisataka]

16. I am at the bank still waiting in line

To cash this one
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100213201041

The bank says NSF

January 20, 2021 we can discuss if he is history

[malaise]

35. Money is on the way

[gratuitous]

18. Ever play Monopoly?

At some point, one player amasses enough property to dominate the game. Sooner or later, everyone lands on that player's houses or hotels and the player's victory is deemed inevitable. By mutual agreement, the players declare a winner and set up the game to start again.

We can't do that. If we don't finish this job, we risk having victory slip away from us.

Keep it up. No pity. Let's finish this administration (with votes!) in such a convincing fashion that nobody anywhere thinks emulating Trumpism is a good idea for a century or more.

[Tiger8]

100. You are a political genius. Bury the bastards in a SEA OF BLUE

Nazis, White Nationalists, Religious Nuts, etc.....they’ll always exist, but Trumpism gave them hope of political power. We must take that fantasy awa from them,

[totodeinhere]

19. The last time I checked he was still the president and he will be until January 20, 2021.

So perhaps you know something I don't but I would not say he is history yet. And he can continue to do a lot of damage during the next eight months and there is really very little we can do to stop him.

[cwydro]

109. This.

I’ve lost count of how many “he is toast” posts I’ve read here over the years.

Not yet, I’m afraid.

[Bonx]

21. Donald Trump is done. This the beginning of the end.

[NoMoreRepugs]

24. Little donnie is in a pot of barely warm water now compared

to the boil it is going to become - MSM is the key IMO, simply report the facts and skip the false bothsiderism bullshit.

[Mr. Evil]

25. Well, here's what everyone needs to pay close attention to.

The cheating this November will blatant, out in the open and they will not bat an eye. The Russians will hack everything. The 'proprietary' code in the voting machines will be compromised (as if it isn't already). They will pull out every dirty trick in the book to hold on to power and will do so even in broad daylight. This go-round the media needs to call out each and every instance and name names. This shit must end once and for all!

I'd also like to add that after Joe wins in a landslide we must hold him and his Attorney General to the fire that there will not be any 'moving forward' until each and every one of the Drumpf administration is held accountable for their corruption.

[wnylib]

33. And if the cheating succeeds in

giving Trump a winning number if votes, even though we know the number is false? What will we do then?

Take it to court? It's supposed to be a state issue.

Is it likely that Americans would take it to the streets, as other countries have done over election fraud? If people do that, it will end up in civil war.

How can we avoid that happening?

[BComplex]

78. That's what I've been wondering. After he/russia steals the election, THEN what?

When he won't leave, THEN what? I feel like we need to have some kind of plan in place because many of us truly believe that trump and his republican goons are going to force this onto the supreme court. We all know (or SHOULD know) that the supreme court will give it to trump.

[wnylib]

91. SCOTUS never shoulld have been involved in 2000.

The only time they should get involved is in cases of discrimination or disenfranchisement. That would fit if Trump and Russia fix the votes, but it takes time to research and prove fraud for a court case.

What if we know that's what happened but can't prove it?

If the votes show that he lost, it's guarenteed that he will claim fraud and refuse to leave. When he does, what are the means of forcible removal? His militia goons will fight to support him. That means a battle, too.

Either way, I don't see us getting rid of him without a real life fight, not just a symbolic one. His actions will make it necessary.

[guillaumeb]

27. All the employees at Trump's bank speak Russian.

Simply a point of information.

[Mr. Ected]

31. If our elections were reliable and trustworthy, I'd totally agree

But we didn't get Gore in 2000 or Clinton in 2016 because the opposite was true.

And since the Reps have done nothing in the past 20 years but figure out bigger and better ways to cheat, I'm hesitant to claim victory. In a world where our constitution, and therefore our votes, matters, absolutely, malaise. But these aren't those times.

[0rganism]

32. 9 months is a lot of history still to go

we could get lucky with an early departure, but i wouldn't bet on it

[DenverJared]

36. I feel that in my bones

The millions who only knew him from "Apprentice" and thought a self-made billionaire(?) would do something good are getting angry and revolting.

[Old Crank]

40. But

We still have to get people to the polls. En mass.

[lunatica]

42. Dead man walking.

[honest.abe]

43. I think so too.

My biggest fear was Sanders hanging on until the bitter end. That's not going to happen. So I think most of his supporters should be able to transition to Biden by election day.

Also, the media appears to be seriously turning on Trump. That will have a huge impact as well.

Nothing is guaranteed but yes, it does look like Trump is toast!

[OMGWTF]

45. Fk! I hope so, but the whore media likes a fight so prepare for constant "too close to call" BS

[live love laugh]

49. Been around for too long here to believe this.

I’ll believe it when it happens.

[ramen]

50. Cautionary note from James Carville:

https://www.nbcnews.com/think/opinion/trump-poll-numbers-look-good-biden-republicans-can-still-win-ncna1181371

And we know they will cheat. It's their thing. So we'll still have to make this the fight of our lives.

I doubt you were suggesting complacency as a course of (in)action but I want to make sure we all give this every single ounce of everything that we have.

[malaise]

52. Yes no time for complacency but we must keep pushing with the turning tide

Don the Con is history

[WyattKansas]

90. This time the Democratic Party and everyone in a place to shine a light on their cheating...

Should be thinking of every possible way they will try to cheat and be prepared to slam the door on every dirty ploy they pull, even if they have to raise hell like rethuglicans do to get their way. Take all of their cheating levers and beat them into a damn grease spot with them. Make their spawn run back under the rocks they crawled out from under cowering in fear.

[Gothmog]

53. trump's incompetence and delusions were exposed for all to see yesterday

[thegoose]

54. Fuck, yeah!

Even the most inbred moron can see what a worthless piece of shit he is.

[Zing Zing Zingbah]

55. I'll believe it when it happens. There's nothing to bank until the election is over. n/t

[Evolve Dammit]

57. Haul his drooling orange ass off in a rubber suit. Na Na Na Na. Hey Hey, Good Bye

I just hope the meltdown is captured live, as we watch Voldemort crawl out of the bloated body. Pay per view?

[Iliyah]

59. McTurtle . . . .

mask and glove use, and both houses off until May 4th. Oh my.

[malaise]

61. Interesting

McTurtle is as guilty as the Con

[cwydro]

64. You said he'd be toast in two weeks.

About three weeks ago.

No offense; I just wish one of your predictions would come true.

[doc03]

65. I don't buy that for a minute he still has his

43 or 44% base that could be enough to get the EC. I wouldn't count him out unless he gets well below 40%.

[Lock him up.]

106. Orangevirus will not win PA and MI. Biden/VP will.

Joe will get President Obama's support that Hillary missed in these states back to the precincts.

Maybe WI too (based on the primary's results).

[doc03]

107. In 2015 when any of us said we thought Trump was going to win the usual reaction was

the "Blue Wall", "She has this" and "Your concern is noted". No I don't think it is in bag by a long shot.
I don't see how people could be stupid enough to vote for him again but I live in Trump country, they still
think he is the second coming and I know Democrats that have turned the last couple years. The worst thing we
can do is to give people the impression he can't win.

[Baltimike]

69. I love you. nt

[GusFring]

71. I thought we were done underestimating the stupidity of 50 % of the country

[scrabblequeen40]

80. While gratifying, underestimating the stupidity of knuckle-draggers is dangerous

Stupid can always get stupider.

[lame54]

73. No one treads water like Trump

[malaise]

83. Fortunately for us he's now in quick sand

[lame54]

84. Knowing him...

He's standing on a step ladder

I won't believe he's taken out till 6 months after it's happened

[malaise]

85. Bwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah

[USALiberal]

82. I hope you are right but his supporters don't care. nt

[Old Crow]

95. Oh, don't make that mistake: Nothing is definite.

Donald Trump has a real talent in one area only -- misinformation, rabble-rousing, and propaganda -- and when it comes to those things, his talent is formidable. You could even call it genius. He has a mastery for connecting with the ugly parts of peoples' souls -- their fear, resentment, and hate -- and his followers love him.

There's lots of time before November. Plenty of time for a demagogue like Trump to create all sorts of disruption and distraction. He has a lot at his disposal, after all. He's the most dangerous man ever to occupy the White House and to announce "It's over!" with more than half a year to go is hubris.

[bucolic_frolic]

96. It's been obvious all along

but history extracts the salient points and paints with the broadest of brushes. A self-absorbed man who harmed his own people.

The intellectual side of course will read malignant narcissist who saw capitalism as an extension of himself and harmed his own country, America, in countless ways, and whose efforts to establish his own authoritarian rule killed tens of thousands of citizens. He is like Bonfire of the Vanities for capitalist rapists.

[onetexan]

108. This fool is a conman who cheated to get elected to line his pockets

He neither knows anything about governing nor is he interested in good governance, given he is severely narcissistic & incapable of empathy. Hence he's only interested in whatever benefits him, not what's best for the country. Its citizens are inconvenient casualties in his quest to pilfer and rape it as much as he can while he's in office. He is THE clear & present danger we have now.

[Tribetime]

97. I was thinking the same thing today and that the Republican party is dead

[Joinfortmill]

98. To the polls

[PatrickforO]

105. I like your certainty.

Why do you say it, though? Because he's cost corporations big bucks? Cost the Wall Street lizards some profits?

Because the powers that be certainly don't give shit 1 about any of us, that's for sure. But make them lose money, or damage their property and it's a whole new ball game.

Pretty eff-ing sick if you ask me.

[HarlanPepper]

110. Kicking to annoy toxic pessimists and doomsayers.