Honestly I wouldn't be surprised if States try to secede at this point

[vercetti2021]

I mean my freaking Lord...

[leftieNanner]

1. That's Vladimir Putin's wet dream

Damaging America was his goal. Tearing it apart would exceed his wildest fantasies. We must hang together and defeat this orange pustule infesting Our House.

[jberryhill]

2. Yeah, that's not going to happen either

[TrishaJ]

3. Yes, it's coming.

States joining to form coalitions in defiance of Trump is the very beginning. If Donald J Trump's approval rating really is still 40% + or - after 3 years, I don't see how the country as a whole stays united. When 40% favor a "christian" fascist dictatorship, what is left for the majority other than to break it off?

[SCantiGOP]

4. You realize that 40% is spread out?

Deep South states that typically elect Republicans by 10% margins still have 40-45% Democrats. California has millions of Republicans. There are even counties with 60% Dem in the central city and 60% GOP in the suburbs.
So how do you decide who secedes? This is a very dumb thread.

[madinmaryland]

7. The real issue is who gets the nukes and the military, and how it is divided.

That is why a division will not happen. Would you trust the teabaggers with nukes and no one to stop them? I sure as shit don’t.

[SCantiGOP]

8. Actually, I think then main issue

Is that I don’t support replacing the Constitution with a military coup.

[Hekate]

11. Same here

[standingtall]

10. There are few States that could fund their own military and nuclear scientist

if they don't have nukes already.

[standingtall]

9. It could happen probably wont at least for a very long time

"Deep South states that typically elect Republicans by 10% margins still have 40-45% Democrats. California has millions of Republicans. There are even counties with 60% Dem in the central city and 60% GOP in the suburbs.
So how do you decide who secedes? This is a very dumb thread."

Do you think there weren't any liberals in Alabama and South Carolina in the civil war era? Whoever controls the State Government decides.

[SCantiGOP]

13. Actually, no

The history is pretty unambiguous. Unlike the War for Independence, Southerners were nearly unanimous in supporting the South’s position and agreeing with secession.
The vote in 1860 legislature for SC to become the first state to secede was 169-0.

[standingtall]

14. They were not unanimous

There were abolitionist in the South and there were Southerners that fought for the Union as well as confederate sympathizers in the North and I'm not talking about elected officials. The point is just, because everybody any an area doesn't agree doesn't mean it can't happen.

[uponit7771]

16. Of course there were abolitionist in the south, all 3 of them were silenced before the war started..

... no, there weren't a critical mass of them to be of any count.

There's no civil war going to think about happening, it needs regionalism and it doesn't exist now

[SCantiGOP]

18. Facts are facts

The vote in the South Carolina legislature in favor of secession, held on December 16. 1860, was 169-0. There is nothing in the historical record of any organized or published dissent from this view.

The myth of Rhett Butler - the principled man who knew that the secession was a moral and practical mistake - came from a movie. There were not any rich Charleston businessmen whose wealth and status was not directly tied to slavery.
The vote by the Baptist Church to secede from the national Baptist Church was also unanimous. Not a single congregation in SC voted to stay with the national church, instead creating today what is still called "Southern Baptists."

[uponit7771]

15. No its not, Putin and his whore Trump would love that but there's no dynamic for it at all.

The states taking initiative doesn't mean anything

[bdamomma]

5. Putin's Best

dream.

[RANDYWILDMAN]

6. Great florida can align with Puerto Rico

Trumps in charge, opps sorry people.

[Hekate]

12. Vladimir Putin prays for this outcome. WTH is wrong with some people?

[Proud Liberal Dem]

17. It's probably not going to happen

but Trump is basically already carving up the country with his stupid divisions. He's not helping states that won't vote for him but he's helping those who will probably vote for him (or maybe not if this continues to get worse) and he's picking a feud with governors about declaring authority to tell governors what to do with their states in service of "the economy". He's always been nasty and divisive but this pandemic is really bringing it to the fore. Glad that there are at least some sensible Republican governors like Charlie Baker, Larry Hogan. I don't think that mine is too bad AFAIK (Holcomb-IN)