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cthulu2016

(10,960 posts)
Wed Sep 12, 2012, 07:50 PM Sep 2012

Sam Bacile = Nakoula Basseley Nakoula

I haven't been following this story much but I know it's of interest to people, and I like mystery novels as well as the next guy.

The word in red kind of clinches it, IMO. Having a middle name that sounds like Bacile is one thing, but the use of the "cil" for the "sel" in a previous pseudonym is pretty strong, in the context of everything else. (Like having the same address...)

The search for those behind the provocative, anti-Muslim film that triggered mobs in Egypt and Libya led Wednesday to a California Coptic Christian convicted of financial crimes who acknowledged his role in managing and providing logistics for the production.

Nakoula Basseley Nakoula, 55, told The Associated Press in an interview outside Los Angeles that he was manager for the company that produced "Innocence of Muslims," which mocked Muslims and the prophet Mohammed and was implicated in inflaming mobs that attacked U.S. missions in Egypt and Libya. He provided the first details about a shadowy production group behind the film.

Nakoula denied he directed the film and said he knew the self-described filmmaker, Sam Bacile. But the cellphone number that AP contacted Tuesday to reach the filmmaker who identified himself as Sam Bacile traced to the same address near Los Angeles where AP found Nakoula. Federal court papers said Nakoula's aliases included Nicola [font color=red]Bacily[/font color], Erwin Salameh and others.

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Nakoula denied he had posed as Bacile. During a conversation outside his home, he offered his driver's license to show his identity but kept his thumb over his middle name, Basseley. Records checks by the AP subsequently found it and other connections to the Bacile persona.

Read more: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/huff-wires/20120912/us-egypt-filmmaker/
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Sam Bacile = Nakoula Basseley Nakoula (Original Post) cthulu2016 Sep 2012 OP
Now What? nt Stuart G Sep 2012 #1
Nothin'... but since people were interested in who he is cthulu2016 Sep 2012 #2
I hope this goes viral Marrah_G Sep 2012 #3
Who cares? jayjayusa Sep 2012 #4
can't yell fire in a theater....not free to harm people or cause their death.... spanone Sep 2012 #6
irrational religious followers caused the deaths...the film caused none nt msongs Sep 2012 #24
Exactly! So... are you condemning the YouTube clip? Cooley Hurd Sep 2012 #9
when a "film" which many suspect does not exist at all, is created for ONE reason.. progressivebydesign Sep 2012 #11
Your speculation, it has the ring of truth to it. reformist2 Sep 2012 #19
Hm... BarackTheVote Sep 2012 #26
I care. The FRAUD used to make this piece of agitprop.... Junkdrawer Sep 2012 #20
Basseley = Bacile = Imbecile Bernardo de La Paz Sep 2012 #5
When people give a fake name or birthday, they almost ALWAYS base it on some truth. progressivebydesign Sep 2012 #7
Who paid him is the next question. lumpy Sep 2012 #8
Bingo - Hell Hath No Fury Sep 2012 #10
That is always the most important question. hifiguy Sep 2012 #13
Was anyone from the Romney campaign involved in funding the film? Democat Sep 2012 #28
Ok. But, who fired the RPGs in Benghazi, and why? It wasn't because of this POS non-movie. leveymg Sep 2012 #12
It's a group with a crazy 5-6 word name... cthulu2016 Sep 2012 #14
The Imprisoned Omar Abdul Rahman Brigades - but, why are we making nice safe areas for AQ? leveymg Sep 2012 #17
Safe? orwell Sep 2012 #25
Read the rest of the article. It's very interesting, and points out how regime change leads to leveymg Sep 2012 #27
exactly! btw, any thoughts on Michael Lewis' Vanity Fair Gabi Hayes Sep 2012 #15
not talking about the current scene....meant to reference Gabi Hayes Sep 2012 #18
Haven't read the article yet. But, I'm sure it's what Barack wants us to know about his decision leveymg Sep 2012 #22
don't confuse the Benghazi people in general with magical thyme Sep 2012 #23
LOL! "He kept his thumb over his middle name" LOL reformist2 Sep 2012 #16
That is bizarre underpants Sep 2012 #29
It will be interesting to see how quickly media report this as fact goodhue Sep 2012 #21

jayjayusa

(28 posts)
4. Who cares?
Wed Sep 12, 2012, 07:56 PM
Sep 2012

People are free to do whatever they want, the crusades are over, jihads have no place in this world. There's no excuses.

progressivebydesign

(19,458 posts)
11. when a "film" which many suspect does not exist at all, is created for ONE reason..
Wed Sep 12, 2012, 08:05 PM
Sep 2012

and not to inform people, but to create a violent response, then it matters. I think that when someone does more digging they'll find that this story has very long tentacles that reach into some uncomfortable places for the republicans. This was a calculated political move, like the bullshit films and books meant to tear down the President. This film's trailer, which some have described as shockingly amateurish, have led them to believe that there is no film at all. That the trailer and the money poured into this, was for one reason only, to cause a political firestorm.

BarackTheVote

(938 posts)
26. Hm...
Wed Sep 12, 2012, 10:15 PM
Sep 2012

a film without artistic, cultural, intellectual, or philosophical merit, created only to appeal to prurient interests... we have a word for that: pornographic.

Junkdrawer

(27,993 posts)
20. I care. The FRAUD used to make this piece of agitprop....
Wed Sep 12, 2012, 08:22 PM
Sep 2012

and the coordinated timing of its Islamic translation is stinking to high heaven.

progressivebydesign

(19,458 posts)
7. When people give a fake name or birthday, they almost ALWAYS base it on some truth.
Wed Sep 12, 2012, 08:02 PM
Sep 2012

so that would make complete sense.

Democat

(11,617 posts)
28. Was anyone from the Romney campaign involved in funding the film?
Thu Sep 13, 2012, 07:31 AM
Sep 2012

That will be an interesting question for the media to research.

leveymg

(36,418 posts)
12. Ok. But, who fired the RPGs in Benghazi, and why? It wasn't because of this POS non-movie.
Wed Sep 12, 2012, 08:06 PM
Sep 2012

Perhaps, we can now get back to the question of why Salaafists in Benghazi, people we presumably "saved" from dictator Ghadaffi, murdered the US Ambassador?

leveymg

(36,418 posts)
17. The Imprisoned Omar Abdul Rahman Brigades - but, why are we making nice safe areas for AQ?
Wed Sep 12, 2012, 08:16 PM
Sep 2012

In places like Libya and Syria?

(CNN) -- A pro-al Qaeda group responsible for a previous armed assault on the U.S. Consulate in Benghazi is the chief suspect in Tuesday's attack that killed the U.S. ambassador to Libya, sources tracking militant Islamist groups in eastern Libya say.

They also note that the attack immediately followed a call from al Qaeda leader Ayman al-Zawahiri for revenge for the death in June of a senior Libyan member of the terror group Abu Yahya al-Libi.

The group suspected to be behind the assault -- the Imprisoned Omar Abdul Rahman Brigades -- first surfaced in May, when it claimed responsibility for an attack on the International Red Cross office in Benghazi. The following month the group claimed responsibility for detonating an explosive device outside the U.S. Consulate, and later released a video of that attack.

Read more: http://www.wptv.com/dpp/news/world/omar-abdul-rahman-brigades-ambassador-christopher-stevens-targeted-by-pro-al-qaeda-group#ixzz26IvGSLtY

leveymg

(36,418 posts)
27. Read the rest of the article. It's very interesting, and points out how regime change leads to
Thu Sep 13, 2012, 07:06 AM
Sep 2012

the creation of safe areas where Jihadis have free range of operation, and apparently, aren't attacked by armed drones. Now, we see how regime change creates a dilemma. Given, if we were to take out al-Qaeda and linked groups inside Libya, we would be destroying the very same Saudi-GCC financed militias that we help in our effort to overthrow the Syrian regime:

Libyan and Western security officials tell CNN that al Qaeda has taken advantage of a security vacuum to build up a presence in eastern Libya.

A senior Libyan official told CNN in June that the United States had flown surveillance missions with drones over suspected jihadist training camps in eastern Libya. The official said that, to the best of his knowledge, they had not been used to fire missiles at militant training camps in the area.

Another Libyan official told CNN at the same time that five radical Islamist militant commanders were operating in the Derna area, with 200 to 300 men under their command in camps in the area. Ironically, Christopher Stephens -- the U.S. ambassador killed in Tuesday's attack -- had written extensively about the rise of Salafist factions in and around Derna in a 2008 diplomatic cable.

As CNN has previously reported, one of militant commanders, according to several sources, is Abdulbasit Azuz, a long-time associate of al-Zawahiri. Azuz was dispatched by al-Zawahiri to Libya from Pakistan's tribal areas in the spring of 2011 to create a foothold for al Qaeda in Libya, the sources say.

Azuz is a veteran jihadist who fought the Soviet-backed government in Afghanistan in the early 1990s, according to several sources. He later to moved to the United Kingdom, where he increasingly came on the radar screen of British security
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Read more: http://www.wptv.com/dpp/news/world/omar-abdul-rahman-brigades-ambassador-christopher-stevens-targeted-by-pro-al-qaeda-group#ixzz26LWt3Yw8
 

Gabi Hayes

(28,795 posts)
15. exactly! btw, any thoughts on Michael Lewis' Vanity Fair
Wed Sep 12, 2012, 08:13 PM
Sep 2012

story?

saw him on CNN last night

pretty interesting take on how Obama handled the entire Libya/Bengazi situation

 

Gabi Hayes

(28,795 posts)
18. not talking about the current scene....meant to reference
Wed Sep 12, 2012, 08:16 PM
Sep 2012

the clear fact that if it weren't for Obama's calling BS on the proposed no-fly zone, Kaddafi's troops would have MARCHED untouched into Bengazi, and would have likely slaughtered a large number of the million people there

leveymg

(36,418 posts)
22. Haven't read the article yet. But, I'm sure it's what Barack wants us to know about his decision
Wed Sep 12, 2012, 08:26 PM
Sep 2012

to intervene in Libya. At the time, I have to admit I agreed that airstrikes against the regime's armored column approaching Benghazi was the right thing to do, so long as all US forces got the hell out of Libya before the WPA clock rang.

Now, I think the Pottery Barn Rule still applies even when our military role is limited to quick airstrikes. I also think the humanitarian war model that seemed to work in Bosnia and Kosovo doesn't apply very well in Libya, and that we will be paying terrible costs for our covert operations in Syria for a long time.

 

magical thyme

(14,881 posts)
23. don't confuse the Benghazi people in general with
Wed Sep 12, 2012, 08:32 PM
Sep 2012

Ghadaffi loyalists in their midst.

Also, there is nothing that says the same people behind the piece of shit "trailer" weren't also coordinating with the murderers, deliberately providing them with cover for their attack.

goodhue

(8,676 posts)
21. It will be interesting to see how quickly media report this as fact
Wed Sep 12, 2012, 08:24 PM
Sep 2012

I'm sure it is true, but am concerned about backlash against Coptics in Egypt

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