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outsideworld

(601 posts)
Wed Sep 12, 2012, 10:26 PM Sep 2012

President Obama Elaborates On Romney Criticism



“I think most Americans, Democrats or Republicans, understand that there are times when we set politics aside, and one of those is when we’ve got a direct threat to American personnel who are overseas,” President Obama said.
“And so I think that if you look at how most Republicans have reacted, most elected officials, they’ve reacted responsibly, waiting to find out the facts before they talk, making sure that our No. 1 priority is the safety and security of American personnel.”

“It appears that Gov. Romney didn’t have his facts right. The situation in Cairo was one in which an embassy that is being threatened by major protests releases a press release saying that the film that had disturbed so many Muslims around the world wasn’t representative of what Americans believe about Islam.”

“In an effort to cool the situation down, it didn’t come from me, it didn’t come form Secretary Clinton, it came from people on the ground who are potentially in danger. And my tendency is to cut folks a little bit of slack when they’re in that circumstance, rather than try to question their judgment from the comfort of a campaign office

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President Obama Elaborates On Romney Criticism (Original Post) outsideworld Sep 2012 OP
"...from the comfort of a campaign office." Love it. MichiganVote Sep 2012 #1
I read that and thought "OUCH!!!" TrogL Sep 2012 #8
Smack that ass! n/t HeeBGBz Sep 2012 #46
Our president is the king at telling someone to screw off nicely. Egnever Sep 2012 #55
Big difference between... awoke_in_2003 Sep 2012 #56
Like Michael Jordan Dropping Double Nickels on the Knicks at MSG Yavin4 Sep 2012 #57
President Obama can say what he wants to say, but I would bet A Simple Game Sep 2012 #60
Actually, for this President, a campaign office is the least of his worries. MichiganVote Sep 2012 #61
That's true. But the President and I were both referring to Romney's campaign office. n/t A Simple Game Sep 2012 #67
Excellent tibbiit Sep 2012 #2
As Al Sharpton pointed out, Romney did not even have the timeline right. sabrina 1 Sep 2012 #3
What's more, and not being said creeksneakers2 Sep 2012 #14
True. I'd love to see a reporter ask him why he thinks religious bigotry is an American value. n/t gkhouston Sep 2012 #16
+1000 nt Mojorabbit Sep 2012 #48
there is no honest way to interpret the statement the embassy made as an apology. AlbertCat Sep 2012 #20
True, the statement was necessary and similar statements were made by the Bush sabrina 1 Sep 2012 #33
I know! All romney sees is a chance to jump in and Shoot off Cha Sep 2012 #34
This I think is what is being lost in all of this Egnever Sep 2012 #58
He actually flip-flopped on that in the midst of his speech bhikkhu Sep 2012 #25
There's no room to manipulate narrative these days. defacto7 Sep 2012 #30
Too bad for him he came off as WEAK as Cha Sep 2012 #36
I haven't had the stomach to read his speech, but Sharpton went through the timeline sabrina 1 Sep 2012 #39
Pres knows how to throw shade outsideworld Sep 2012 #4
+1! Cha Sep 2012 #37
Despite having many criticisms about BO (from the left) abumbyanyothername Sep 2012 #5
You said it, brother. reflection Sep 2012 #11
+1000. Amen to that. Marie Marie Sep 2012 #13
+1 Laura PourMeADrink Sep 2012 #19
Agreed outsideworld Sep 2012 #27
Romney, if he had one gram of integrity, which he doesn't, would resign. Warren Stupidity Sep 2012 #6
Wouldn't that trigger a Constitutional crisis? TrogL Sep 2012 #7
Where in the constitution does it say there has to be a Republican running? phleshdef Sep 2012 #47
Heh heh heh alcibiades_mystery Sep 2012 #10
I remember Walt Starr..Good Times! notext Cha Sep 2012 #38
k&r... spanone Sep 2012 #9
Boom goes the dynamite... SidDithers Sep 2012 #12
ROTFL!! garthranzz Sep 2012 #23
painful. very painful. Raster Sep 2012 #41
I'm a bit surprised the President felt the need to "elaborate" yet again... regnaD kciN Sep 2012 #15
doubtful. typically, the MSM trends with the average person, and they are on RobMe's case Laura PourMeADrink Sep 2012 #18
Internals are not driving their response. n/t JackBeck Sep 2012 #21
Robme's attack as having more traction with voters AlbertCat Sep 2012 #22
He didn't "elaborate". The quote is from the same interview as the first one. NYC Liberal Sep 2012 #26
That makes a lot more sense... regnaD kciN Sep 2012 #44
For sure...luckily that's not the case! NYC Liberal Sep 2012 #45
I think it was more just expanding on what he said... Drunken Irishman Sep 2012 #28
I'm not surprised at all. This was a tragically horrilble ploy Cha Sep 2012 #40
excellent. sound. sane. reasonable. thoughtful. That's my prez !! you rock nt Laura PourMeADrink Sep 2012 #17
Well said! bhikkhu Sep 2012 #24
If RMoney actually had a pair of balls,Obama Just gave him a nut-shot rustydog Sep 2012 #29
Too true.. notext Cha Sep 2012 #42
The only adult in the room has spoken. defacto7 Sep 2012 #31
9/11: "Campaign Truce!" chollybocker Sep 2012 #32
Romney attack Pres Obama 9/11 with his usual package Cha Sep 2012 #43
except they didn't even wait till 9/12:01 to release the statement Voice for Peace Sep 2012 #53
Proves the "Romney is out of touch" theme. Spitfire of ATJ Sep 2012 #35
pitch perfect tk2kewl Sep 2012 #49
There Ann, you want a "grown up in office." We HAVE one. n/t progressivebydesign Sep 2012 #50
Always the cool response liberal N proud Sep 2012 #51
Those aren't the words of the Lefty Dictator we're supposed to believe he is. Patterson's judgement patrice Sep 2012 #52
The embassy employees in Cairo were trying not to die BeyondGeography Sep 2012 #54
I must be a hopeless apologist cause I don't see the apology. Egnever Sep 2012 #59
Well said, but that's what you get with a Harvard Suma Cum Laude in the house. Tigress DEM Sep 2012 #62
OUCH! That's gonna hurt Mitt's feelings. ~nt 99th_Monkey Sep 2012 #63
What feelings? speedoo Sep 2012 #64
hmm. yes, you do have a point there. 99th_Monkey Sep 2012 #65
beat. down. frylock Sep 2012 #66
 

Egnever

(21,506 posts)
55. Our president is the king at telling someone to screw off nicely.
Thu Sep 13, 2012, 04:08 PM
Sep 2012

I cant count how many times he has made statements that on their face are very polite but have a delicious subtext of screw you duchebag.

Just love it!

Yavin4

(35,441 posts)
57. Like Michael Jordan Dropping Double Nickels on the Knicks at MSG
Thu Sep 13, 2012, 05:10 PM
Sep 2012

the smack down was laid upon Romney of Mass.

A Simple Game

(9,214 posts)
60. President Obama can say what he wants to say, but I would bet
Thu Sep 13, 2012, 09:36 PM
Sep 2012

$10,000 that it isn't that comfortable in that campaign office lately.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
3. As Al Sharpton pointed out, Romney did not even have the timeline right.
Wed Sep 12, 2012, 10:32 PM
Sep 2012

The statement from the Egyptian Embassy was made six hours, according to Sharpton, before the protesters began climbing the walls and removing the flag.

Romney assumed the statement was made AFTER the breach of the Embassy.

I hope the rest of the media points this out. He was claiming that the Embassy made the statement after being attacked to try to apologize to the attackers when in fact that is not what happened. And he blamed Obama for what he called apolgizing to attackers. There were no attackers when that statement about the movie was made.

I think he will seriously regret this.

creeksneakers2

(7,473 posts)
14. What's more, and not being said
Wed Sep 12, 2012, 11:17 PM
Sep 2012

is there is no honest way to interpret the statement the embassy made as an apology. Romney even says we apologized for our values, when the statement did nothing of the kind. The statement only disassociated the U.S. government from the film. Romney flat out lied, time mistake or not. Nobody in the media seems to be talking about it.

 

AlbertCat

(17,505 posts)
20. there is no honest way to interpret the statement the embassy made as an apology.
Wed Sep 12, 2012, 11:32 PM
Sep 2012

Really! I'd say, it's actually a statement of fact. The film ISN'T what most Americans think about Islam.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
33. True, the statement was necessary and similar statements were made by the Bush
Thu Sep 13, 2012, 12:23 AM
Sep 2012

administration, eg after the disrespect of the Koran in US held detention centers was revealed. Bush made statements to the effect that the US Government condemned the disrespect of anyone's religion.

I don't remember anyone on the Left criticizing him for those statements.

He made a complete fool of himself and I don't see too many Republicans supporting him either, except for the fringe elements of course.

Cha

(297,274 posts)
34. I know! All romney sees is a chance to jump in and Shoot off
Thu Sep 13, 2012, 12:31 AM
Sep 2012

his DAMN PIE HOLE and Insult PBO and FACTS BE Damned.

 

Egnever

(21,506 posts)
58. This I think is what is being lost in all of this
Thu Sep 13, 2012, 05:49 PM
Sep 2012

Yesterday while driving I was listening to our local windbag republican jihadist on the radio going on and on about our weak president and his penchant for apology. I finally got fed up and called in since he takes callers. The screener asked what I wanted to talk about and when i told them I wanted to ask if he would read the statement that was the supposed apology I immediately got hung up on. Not really surprised but...

bhikkhu

(10,718 posts)
25. He actually flip-flopped on that in the midst of his speech
Wed Sep 12, 2012, 11:49 PM
Sep 2012

if you listen clearly, he criticized the statement released after the attacks, then points out that it was released twice - and criticizes that it was re-released after the attacks.

I think its apparent from what he said that he knew the statement was first released before the attacks, but it would weaken his narrative to say that so he just fumbled around it.

defacto7

(13,485 posts)
30. There's no room to manipulate narrative these days.
Thu Sep 13, 2012, 12:15 AM
Sep 2012

He hasn't figured that out or can't. You are either right on it or your out.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
39. I haven't had the stomach to read his speech, but Sharpton went through the timeline
Thu Sep 13, 2012, 12:36 AM
Sep 2012

and seemed to think he had no idea what he was talking about. Which is probably true either way as I have a feeling someone else told him what to say, one of his political 'advisers', who should be fired if that was the case.

Interesting though if what you say is true, it shows clearly his lack of interest in the tragedy itself and his determination to use it to score some political points.

I can only imagine the fear those people in t he Embassy must have felt that night and anyone with a shred of compassion would not even think of criticizing them for any decision they made. It was their lives on the line and in Egypt at least, it may have helped avert a worse outcome.

abumbyanyothername

(2,711 posts)
5. Despite having many criticisms about BO (from the left)
Wed Sep 12, 2012, 10:33 PM
Sep 2012

I admit that he is one of the coolest heads under pressure that I have ever seen anywhere.

And a real role model for all of us in that regard.

 

Warren Stupidity

(48,181 posts)
6. Romney, if he had one gram of integrity, which he doesn't, would resign.
Wed Sep 12, 2012, 10:34 PM
Sep 2012

He would Walt Starr himself off the campaign.

TrogL

(32,822 posts)
7. Wouldn't that trigger a Constitutional crisis?
Wed Sep 12, 2012, 10:42 PM
Sep 2012

There wouldn't be time for another Republican primary before the election.

SidDithers

(44,228 posts)
12. Boom goes the dynamite...
Wed Sep 12, 2012, 10:48 PM
Sep 2012


2:29 for the money quote, but watch the whole thing if you've never seen it.

Perhaps the worst sportscast ever.

Sid

garthranzz

(1,330 posts)
23. ROTFL!!
Wed Sep 12, 2012, 11:37 PM
Sep 2012

Literally!! Still! My wife wanted to know what happened. I wonder if I can find a way to show this to my college classes.

regnaD kciN

(26,044 posts)
15. I'm a bit surprised the President felt the need to "elaborate" yet again...
Wed Sep 12, 2012, 11:18 PM
Sep 2012

It makes me wonder if their internals are showing Robme's attack as having more traction with voters than we're all assuming?



 

AlbertCat

(17,505 posts)
22. Robme's attack as having more traction with voters
Wed Sep 12, 2012, 11:36 PM
Sep 2012

I think it's more of a "lets remind them often how bad their candidate.... whom they don't even like.... really is" kinda thing.

NYC Liberal

(20,136 posts)
26. He didn't "elaborate". The quote is from the same interview as the first one.
Wed Sep 12, 2012, 11:49 PM
Sep 2012

They've just released more excerpts from it:

White House Press Secretary Jay Carney read more quotes from a transcript of Obama’s “CBS News” interview, which makes up one portion of a larger package in this Sunday’s edition of “60 Minutes.”

regnaD kciN

(26,044 posts)
44. That makes a lot more sense...
Thu Sep 13, 2012, 12:47 AM
Sep 2012

Rushing out a second statement shortly after the first would seem to make little sense unless they were worried about not getting the message out, IMHO.

Cha

(297,274 posts)
40. I'm not surprised at all. This was a tragically horrilble ploy
Thu Sep 13, 2012, 12:37 AM
Sep 2012

of Willard's. That shit needs to be nipped in the bud.

bhikkhu

(10,718 posts)
24. Well said!
Wed Sep 12, 2012, 11:39 PM
Sep 2012

And who is to say that it didn't work, in Egypt, to calm and clarify the situation, so that there was no violence as in Libya?

patrice

(47,992 posts)
52. Those aren't the words of the Lefty Dictator we're supposed to believe he is. Patterson's judgement
Thu Sep 13, 2012, 03:39 PM
Sep 2012

in the situation is preserved, rather than 2nd-guessed, under-cut, or gainsaid.

BeyondGeography

(39,374 posts)
54. The embassy employees in Cairo were trying not to die
Thu Sep 13, 2012, 03:41 PM
Sep 2012

and what they wrote was politic anyway. Anyone who criticizes them to score a political point is a total lowlife.

 

Egnever

(21,506 posts)
59. I must be a hopeless apologist cause I don't see the apology.
Thu Sep 13, 2012, 05:52 PM
Sep 2012

Or anything wrong with the statement.

speedoo

(11,229 posts)
64. What feelings?
Fri Sep 14, 2012, 04:08 AM
Sep 2012

Lurch has no feelings. That has been proven again and again, most recently in this fiasco.

 

99th_Monkey

(19,326 posts)
65. hmm. yes, you do have a point there.
Fri Sep 14, 2012, 05:02 AM
Sep 2012

I guess greed and vain-glory are not really "feelings" are they?

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