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sl8

(13,833 posts)
Tue Apr 21, 2020, 07:20 AM Apr 2020

Study Raises Questions About False Negatives From Quick COVID-19 Test

From https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2020/04/21/838794281/study-raises-questions-about-false-negatives-from-quick-covid-19-test

Study Raises Questions About False Negatives From Quick COVID-19 Test

April 21, 2020 6:07 AM ET
Rob Stein

The fastest test being used to diagnose people infected with the coronavirus appears to be the least accurate test now in common use, according to new research obtained by NPR.

Researchers at the Cleveland Clinic tested 239 specimens known to contain the coronavirus using five of the most commonly used coronavirus tests, including the Abbott ID NOW. The ID NOW has generated widespread excitement because it can produce results in less than 15 minutes.

But the ID NOW only detected the virus in 85.2% of the samples, meaning it had a false-negative rate of 14.8 percent, according to Dr. Gary Procop, who heads COVID-19 testing at the Cleveland Clinic and led the study.

"So that means if you had 100 patients that were positive, 15% of those patients would be falsely called negative. They'd be told that they're negative for COVID when they're really positive," Procop told NPR in an interview. "That's not too good."

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Study Raises Questions About False Negatives From Quick COVID-19 Test (Original Post) sl8 Apr 2020 OP
Apparently the current longer tests have plenty of false negatives too. Squinch Apr 2020 #1
"not too good" is quite the understatement Pacifist Patriot Apr 2020 #2
How's "as good as the rest." Igel Apr 2020 #6
I haven't seen any numbers I'd trust. Pacifist Patriot Apr 2020 #7
Trump Test. It's only a safeinOhio Apr 2020 #3
14.8% is bad, but isn't this (believe it or not) superior some of the other Mike 03 Apr 2020 #4
That's actually better than the current influenza swab elias7 Apr 2020 #5

Squinch

(50,957 posts)
1. Apparently the current longer tests have plenty of false negatives too.
Tue Apr 21, 2020, 07:35 AM
Apr 2020

I only say that because of anecdotal observation of a number of acquaintances who tested negative before they tested positive.

If this trst allows us to get 85% out of circulation and do it quickly, lets not scrap it till something better comes along.

Igel

(35,323 posts)
6. How's "as good as the rest."
Tue Apr 21, 2020, 10:57 AM
Apr 2020

Because for all the screaming about needing tests, that's about where the tests are. Some are worse, some are a bit better.

An NPR report pointed out others are 100-95% reliable. Others point out that often the manufacturers are the source of those numbers, and it's easy to game the data reporting system--so the reliability numbers themselves aren't reliable.

Pacifist Patriot

(24,653 posts)
7. I haven't seen any numbers I'd trust.
Tue Apr 21, 2020, 11:04 AM
Apr 2020

We have bad information about absolutely everything. Personally, I'm just acting on "this is bad and probably going to get worse." The presumed numbers and real numbers are quite likely going to bear that out, so I'm not splitting hairs over data.

I'm just doing what little I can to keep the numbers as low as possible -which in the grand scheme of things may not be much, but in aggregate with others taking an abundance of caution maybe we can save some lives. We'll never know how much our isolation helped, we can only assume that it will in some respect.

People making life and death decisions based on bad information are tilting at windmills. We know we don't know an awful lot and we don't know what we don't know even more. This is a rung of hell for analysts like me.

Mike 03

(16,616 posts)
4. 14.8% is bad, but isn't this (believe it or not) superior some of the other
Tue Apr 21, 2020, 08:59 AM
Apr 2020

tests in common use now? I thought I heard false positive rates of 20 - 30%.

elias7

(4,015 posts)
5. That's actually better than the current influenza swab
Tue Apr 21, 2020, 09:10 AM
Apr 2020

Which is around 70% in my clinical experience (CDC says 50-70%, other sources vary)

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