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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsLess than 10 days ago trump tweeted about his great oil deal.Now he's talking about bailing them out
With OPEC, Trump makes his favorite kind of deal: One where he gives nothing
https://fortune.com/2020/04/15/trump-opec-oil-deal-price-war/
Link to tweet
underpants
(182,848 posts)I mean, they are affected by this too!
LastDemocratInSC
(3,647 posts)orwell
(7,775 posts)...socialism for the rich...
...the free market for the poor!
sop
(10,213 posts)Now would be great time to invest in clean sources of energy, not prop up outmoded extractive energy companies.
dubyadiprecession
(5,718 posts)empedocles
(15,751 posts)notdarkyet
(2,226 posts)GreenPartyVoter
(72,379 posts)No bailouts unless they agree to truly diversify (no greenwashing for the sake of pretty commercials) and do something about a) fixing the the climate change that theyve known was coming since the 60s, and b) pursue honest-to-god workable alternative energy ideas. Maybe we can sunset those, and if they dont meet those goals, then they have to pay the money back. With interest.
SoonerPride
(12,286 posts)NOT A CENT
KY_EnviroGuy
(14,492 posts)KY..............
underpants
(182,848 posts)Celerity
(43,456 posts)He has fucked up the nation for decades, and perhaps for good if he and his RW white nationalist legions, bankster scum, along with the rentier-class oligarchic wreckers (plus Putin and the lads) steal 2020.
I fully expect over 10 trillion USD plus to be shoved up to the pyramidion by the time this is all over.
Hugin
(33,168 posts)It went to crap.
Me.
(35,454 posts)spanone
(135,854 posts)bullwinkle428
(20,629 posts)market by opening all the spigots, and creating a "price war".
On 8 March 2020, Saudi Arabia initiated a price war with Russia, facilitating a 65% quarterly fall in the price of oil.[3] Over a few weeks,[citation needed] US oil prices[ambiguous] fell by 34%, crude oil fell by 26%, and Brent oil fell by 24%.[4] The price war was triggered by a breakup in dialogue between the Organization of the Petroleum Exporting Countries (OPEC) and Russia over proposed oil-production cuts in the midst of the 201920 coronavirus pandemic.[3] Russia walked out of the agreement, leading to the fall of the OPEC+ alliance. Oil prices had already fallen 30% since the start of the year due to a drop in demand.[5] The price war is one of the major causes and effects of the currently ongoing global stock-market crash.[6]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_Russia%E2%80%93Saudi_Arabia_oil_price_war
Buckeyeblue
(5,499 posts)rgbecker
(4,832 posts)these industries when times are bad, but the shareholders profit when times are good?
Call it what you want, but we need a revolution in our thinking about "Capitalism."
Bengus81
(6,932 posts)Trump and Republicans picking winners and losers.
delisen
(6,044 posts)This bailout is a repeat of 2008 but so massive we are unlikely to be able to survive it and climate change and maintain democracy.
Some industries and some large corporations that cannot survive on their own have to shrink and some have to disappear.
Our options are rapidly narrowing.
struggle4progress
(118,315 posts)When middle-class people worry about money, government gives them $1200 and tells them to make it last ten weeks. When poor people worry about money, we tell them they're lazy and stupid