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SidDithers

(44,228 posts)
Thu Sep 13, 2012, 08:28 AM Sep 2012

Julian Assange threatened legal action over WikiLeaks documentary...

South by Southwest film festival was warned against showing the film, titled WikiLeaks: Secrets and Lies

Julian Assange threatened legal action against a film festival in an attempt to pressure them not to show a documentary on the history of WikiLeaks.

Assange, the WikiLeaks founder, threatened to sue the South by Southwest (SXSW) festival in the United States if they broadcast the documentary, WikiLeaks: Secrets and Lies, earlier this year.

The legal threats came to light after media regulator Ofcom rejected a detailed complaint from Assange about the programme on Monday.

Assange had complained that the programme, which first aired on More4 in the UK on 29 November 2011, was libellous, unfair and had invaded his privacy.


http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2012/sep/11/julian-assange-legal-action-south-southwest

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Julian Assange threatened legal action over WikiLeaks documentary... (Original Post) SidDithers Sep 2012 OP
" invaded his privacy." freedom of speech. freedom of speech.... seabeyond Sep 2012 #1
Yeah, I got a bit of a chuckle reading that part too... SidDithers Sep 2012 #2
lol! Yeah, you got that right. HappyMe Sep 2012 #7
Struggle4Sid? nt Bonobo Sep 2012 #3
You gonna call the post a TOS violation, and then self-delete your accusation?...nt SidDithers Sep 2012 #4
Lighten up, Francis. nt Bonobo Sep 2012 #8
... SidDithers Sep 2012 #10
ya, i get it. we all have to be sucked into this egomaniacs con or.... nt seabeyond Sep 2012 #5
LOL! RandiFan1290 Sep 2012 #6
So? It was his right to do so. redgreenandblue Sep 2012 #9
So it's two-faced and hypocritical. Nuclear Unicorn Sep 2012 #11
Huh? That is quite a mental leap. redgreenandblue Sep 2012 #13
Challenging is one thing, suppressing is another. Nuclear Unicorn Sep 2012 #14
This reminds me a bit of HappyMe Sep 2012 #16
Government transparency is not the same as allowing unrestricted slander of individuals. redgreenandblue Sep 2012 #18
Prove it's slander. Oh wait! That would require an open discussion without suppression. Nuclear Unicorn Sep 2012 #23
Actually, in this case the court decided that it wasn't slander. redgreenandblue Sep 2012 #30
could be " just another two-bit rapist", but we do not know. cause he and supporters feel he cant seabeyond Sep 2012 #15
No one ever said Assange should not be challanged. redgreenandblue Sep 2012 #17
bullshit. the very argument is saying he cannot fuckin be challenged as he hides in an embassy seabeyond Sep 2012 #19
Apparently the Ecuadorian government thinks the danger of political persecution is real. redgreenandblue Sep 2012 #20
Yeah and there are at least 2 other governments that think he's probably a rapist. Nuclear Unicorn Sep 2012 #24
none of what you say takes away from the hypocrisy of assange and his supporters. big fuckin deal. seabeyond Sep 2012 #25
Most frivolous asylum case ever granted treestar Sep 2012 #31
On any charges ever? treestar Sep 2012 #32
And hypocrisy is the key here. Nuclear Unicorn Sep 2012 #21
now comparing the weasal of a con man to black mens experience with rape of white women. seabeyond Sep 2012 #26
Excellent post treestar Sep 2012 #29
But would he show up? sharp_stick Sep 2012 #22
They showed the film anyway. ananda Sep 2012 #12
Invaded his privacy? treestar Sep 2012 #27
Invaded His Privacy. NCTraveler Sep 2012 #28
thank you for this post, it brought out the haters in DU larkrake Sep 2012 #33
I'm sure they're devastated...nt SidDithers Sep 2012 #34
Oh dear! HappyMe Sep 2012 #35
 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
1. " invaded his privacy." freedom of speech. freedom of speech....
Thu Sep 13, 2012, 08:29 AM
Sep 2012

right? good for the goose.

surely we support freedom of speech?

Nuclear Unicorn

(19,497 posts)
11. So it's two-faced and hypocritical.
Thu Sep 13, 2012, 09:02 AM
Sep 2012

Which tears the mask off of the swill Assange has been peddling as a valiant crusader for openness and trasnparency. Now he's showing himself to be just another two-bit rapist hiding behind celebrity and demagoguery.

Nuclear Unicorn

(19,497 posts)
14. Challenging is one thing, suppressing is another.
Thu Sep 13, 2012, 09:17 AM
Sep 2012

Assange is not the final arbiter of truth, no one is. Supposedly wikileaks is about presenting information unredacted for the people to decide for themselves. If Assange were truly beholden to that ideology he could allow the film to be shown then readily rebut any contention.

But he chose censorship and that shows he's not about openness, he's more worried about playing an image.

redgreenandblue

(2,088 posts)
18. Government transparency is not the same as allowing unrestricted slander of individuals.
Thu Sep 13, 2012, 09:38 AM
Sep 2012

Assange went though legal channels and lost his case. If any individual feels they were damaged by Wikileaks they are free to sue them.

Nuclear Unicorn

(19,497 posts)
23. Prove it's slander. Oh wait! That would require an open discussion without suppression.
Thu Sep 13, 2012, 09:51 AM
Sep 2012

You can't call it slander then shut it away in a deep, dark corner never to see the light of day and expect us to believe it.

"Move along, nothing to see here! Just trust me, I've got your best interests at heart and I know you don't need to see this." Yeah, that's what Assange supposedly stands for.

hooey

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
15. could be " just another two-bit rapist", but we do not know. cause he and supporters feel he cant
Thu Sep 13, 2012, 09:18 AM
Sep 2012

be challenged, as they insist he is allowed to challenge. the hypocrisy.

even fuckin comparing him to blacks being accused of raping white women. disgusting.

redgreenandblue

(2,088 posts)
17. No one ever said Assange should not be challanged.
Thu Sep 13, 2012, 09:36 AM
Sep 2012

The argument was that he cannot expect a fair treatment due to political pressures.

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
19. bullshit. the very argument is saying he cannot fuckin be challenged as he hides in an embassy
Thu Sep 13, 2012, 09:39 AM
Sep 2012

refusing to address the issue and people support him hiding....

you or anyone else doesnt get to say he does not have to face his accusation cause of what could happen.

it is pure bullshit hypocrisy.

for everyone but him. cause he seems to be special.

redgreenandblue

(2,088 posts)
20. Apparently the Ecuadorian government thinks the danger of political persecution is real.
Thu Sep 13, 2012, 09:47 AM
Sep 2012

Thus the granting of political asylum. I should point out also that what they are doing is legal.

So yes, they do in fact "get to say he does not have to face his accusation cause of what could happen" if what "could happen" is him for political reasons being convicted of something he didn't do or him being turned over to a country were he faces torture and/or the death penalty. All of this is in line with international norms, like it or not.

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
25. none of what you say takes away from the hypocrisy of assange and his supporters. big fuckin deal.
Thu Sep 13, 2012, 09:53 AM
Sep 2012

there is hypocrisy all over the place. it is the people that call it out in one area, but their little pet project, ignore it in another.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
32. On any charges ever?
Thu Sep 13, 2012, 10:04 AM
Sep 2012

Heck by that standard, Foley and those other R Senators could say the same thing.

Julian could freely kill someone and then claim he could never get a fair trial.

Nuclear Unicorn

(19,497 posts)
21. And hypocrisy is the key here.
Thu Sep 13, 2012, 09:48 AM
Sep 2012

Hypocrisy isn't being equally fallible as all people are fallible. It's worse than mere fallibility because its centers on insincerity.

Assange is not sincere in what he professes about openness and freedom of information for a better society. A healthy democracy does suppress information it considers untrue or inflammatory; it promotes the freedom of speech to debate, challenge and counter. But nothing about Assange shows him to be beholden to these principles. If he's not sincere then what was his motive for setting up wikileaks?

Likewise, his supporters are now becoming equally absurd and insincere. As they trot out each new lurid fantasy they too show that it isn't about openness but striking at "The Powers That Be!" {Ominous Voice: OFF}. They want to tear things down. They're simply mad with the idea. Some of those things deserve to be torn down but like the mass dump Assange facilitated they lack discretion and just keep tearing and tearing and tearing without the slightest thought to consequence. They've become so obsessed they have become insincere about what they claim to want.

Will good intel operatives and their sources doing fair and legal work be hurt? Who cares! We got banksters and Bush cronies to indict!

Will established progressive feminist activists be raped and their attacker not held to account? Who cares! There was that video!

Not that wikileaks provided the much ballyhooed indictments and uprising born of popular disgust. We certainly got a lot of hype out of it and everyone --including truly bad people -- got to read Secretary Clinton's email. Big whoop! Remind me again what Assange has done that is so compelling and remind me how he's supposed to be so indispensable to the future of wikileaks and accountability.

He's a twit, a huckster, a charlatan and now we know he's a hypocritical, insincere fraud --

-- and probably a rapist too.

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
26. now comparing the weasal of a con man to black mens experience with rape of white women.
Thu Sep 13, 2012, 09:59 AM
Sep 2012

the audacity, and further offense defending this creep.

i am so angry and disgusted how we hero worshiper a pathetic person to this extent because of a damn agenda.

and ya.... putin is an alpha male. cause really, the world just had to know.

very good post nuclear. doesnt matter. we saw with dsk, when he is supposedly our "man" (which dsk never was, another con man people hero worshiped) then fuckin raping women is

ok



ananda

(28,864 posts)
12. They showed the film anyway.
Thu Sep 13, 2012, 09:05 AM
Sep 2012

"SXSW aired the feature film version of the programme as planned on 9 March and CNBC showed a shortened version of the documentary in the US on 1 March.

Patrick Forbes, the head of documentaries at Oxford Film & Television, welcomed the Ofcom ruling and praised SXSW and CNBC for not caving in to legal pressure from Assange."

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