Was Ex Gitmo Detainee Leader of Group that Attacked Libyan Consulate?

[warrprayer]

What is Ansar al-Sharia?
by Matthew DeLuca Sep 12, 2012 7:50 PM EDT
The gunmen believed to have killed the U.S. ambassador to Libya are thought to be linked to a group called Ansar al-Sharia. The Daily Beast sorts out what we know.

"in Libya, including the shadowy Ansar al-Sharia in Darnah (ASD), led by former Guantanamo Bay inmate Abu Sufyan bin Qumu.”"

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2012/09/12/what-is-ansar-al-sharia.html

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2012/09/12/what-is-ansar-al-sharia.html



"Libyan, Once a Detainee, Is Now a U.S. Ally of SortsBy ROD NORDLAND and SCOTT SHANE
Published: April 24, 2011



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. DARNAH, Libya — For more than five years, Abu Sufian Ibrahim Ahmed Hamuda bin Qumu was a prisoner at the Guantánamo Bay prison, judged “a probable member of Al Qaeda” by the analysts there. They concluded in a newly disclosed 2005 assessment that his release would represent a “medium to high risk, as he is likely to pose a threat to the U.S., its interests and allies.”



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Abdul-Hakim al-Hasadi is a rebel fighter in Libya.
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A Statement by the United States Government (April 25, 2011) Today, Mr. Qumu, 51, is a notable figure in the Libyan rebels’ fight to oust Col. Muammar el-Qaddafi, reportedly a leader of a ragtag band of fighters known as the Darnah Brigade for his birthplace, this shabby port town of 100,000 people in northeast Libya. The former enemy and prisoner of the United States is now an ally of sorts, a remarkable turnabout resulting from shifting American policies rather than any obvious change in Mr. Qumu. "

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/04/25/world/guantanamo-files-libyan-detainee-now-us-ally-of-sorts.html

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It turns out that Abu Sufyan Ibrahim Ahmed Hamuda Bin Qumu, who was released from Guantánamo—and into the Libyan government’s custody—in 2007, is now a well-known rebel leader. According to the Times, "



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Haven't seen ANY mention of this in the MSM. Not a whisper. WTF??!!

What the hell is going on here? I would be grateful if some of the more knowledgeable D.U.ers could enlighten me on this...

[lapfog_1]

1. I've said it before and I'll say it again

if they weren't terrorists before being sent to Gitmo, they are now.

If you sent little old mild mannered ME to Gitmo, if you ever release me, I will hunt down anything and everything related to the US government and destroy it or die trying. You don't lock up innocent people in a torture hell hole and expect them to simply go about their lives when you release them. And the guilty ones that you lock up... well they were already terrorists.

[warrprayer]

6. Apparently

Mr. Bin Qumu had quite a prior history...

"According to documents released by the United States Department of Defense[3][4][5]:

■Abu Sufian Ibrahim Ahmed Hamuda Bin Qumu served for twelve years in the Libyan Army, from 1979 to 1990, rising to the rank of private first class.
■The documents assert that during his military service he was frequently disciplined for drug and alcohol offenses, absences without leave, and attempted rape.
■The documents assert that following his military service he received a four year sentence for drug dealing, but that escaped to Sudan, partway through his sentence, in 1992.
■The documents assert that a foreign government service says that he was a member of the Libyan Islamic Fighting Group.
■The documents assert that he was a truck driver for the Wadi al Aqiq Company, a company owned by Usama bin Laden, who was then based in Sudan.
■The documents assert that he worked for al Wafa, a charity that has been accused of links to terrorist organizations, for a few months in late 2001. While working for al Wafa he stands accused of serving as an accountant, delivering food aid, and delivering the tools to dig wells.
The documents state he was captured in late 2001.
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http://guantanmo.wikia.com/wiki/Abu_Sufian_bin_Qumu

[dipsydoodle]

2. Haven't seen ANY mention of this in the MSM ?

Possibly because they print news and not conjecture on such a subject.

[warrprayer]

3. what conjecture

do you see in what I posted?

I am quoting mainstream news sources.


And I am not criticizing Obama, if that's what you think. I am thanking my lucky stars the grown ups are in charge. A calm, measured response is what I believe we are seeing from this administration.

[dipsydoodle]

8. All I did was to respond

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to the line you added which said "Haven't seen ANY mention of this in the MSM. Not a whisper. "

Conjecture refers to whether or not that group was responsible. Could've been almost any group within Libya who do not accept Benghazi rule.

I made no mention or hint of you criticising anyone.

[warrprayer]

9. no problemo!

hopefully things are cooling down there.

[pinboy3niner]

4. You missed the reports on CNN

CNN has had reports on-air and on its website. One excerpt (with video at link):

According to Libyan security sources, within the militant ranks in Derna there are 20 to 30 hardcore jihadist fighters who are cause for most concern. One source said a number of Egyptian jihadists are also present in the Derna area, as well as fighters belonging to al Qaeda's North African affiliate, al Qaeda in the Islamic Maghreb.

Another militant whose activities have caused concern in eastern Libya is Sufian bin Qumu, a released Guantanamo detainee who is believed to be operating a camp in a remote area outside Derna. His detainee assessment at the prison camp described him as having a "long-term association with Islamist extremist Jihad and members of Al-Qaida and other extremist groups."

Libyan officials confirmed his presence in the area to CNN in June.

http://www.cnn.com/2012/09/12/world/africa/libya-attack-jihadists/index.html?hpt=hp_c1

[warrprayer]

5. Thank you sir!

I figured it would be hard for them to get anything past you!


My next question would be... why was he released in the first place under the Bush administration?

Also - it seems that the people of the middle east have the impression that the 14 minute youtube clip was a major hollywood production, thus reflecting the views of mainstream America. Didn't we used to have something called "Voice of America" that went a long way toward avoiding these little misunderstandings? Even in the most impoverished countrys, most people have access to radios, and we could have gotten the message out... . Or did Bushco defund VOA to the point of making it ineffective? Boy, that saved us a bundle, didn't it?
{sarcasm}

[warrprayer]

7. Shall we dance? :)